Author Topic: My Pond5 Download Trend (Read 7497 times)

stocker2011 · « **Reply #75 on:** February 27, 2025, 14:58 »

We should make an awards ceremony dedicated to our favorite stock agencies.

yuriy · « **Reply #76 on:** March 02, 2025, 17:39 »

Quote from: davedigitalfx on February 27, 2025, 13:47

same sh*t here ... zero downloads in 10 days ... before Shitterstock i was at 350-400usd a month ..
let's thank Shitterstock for the great destructive work done on pond5 ...

what i wonder is where those sales have gone. my hunch is demand for stock video isn't down, it's just the sales volume on pond5 appears almost gone. the only place i sell video reasonably well is adobe even if the revenue is low.

dragonblade · « **Reply #77 on:** March 03, 2025, 01:23 »

Quote from: yuriy on March 02, 2025, 17:39

Quote from: davedigitalfx on February 27, 2025, 13:47
same sh*t here ... zero downloads in 10 days ... before Shitterstock i was at 350-400usd a month ..
let's thank Shitterstock for the great destructive work done on pond5 ...

what i wonder is where those sales have gone. my hunch is demand for stock video isn't down, it's just the sales volume on pond5 appears almost gone. the only place i sell video reasonably well is adobe even if the revenue is low.

If that's the case, I wonder where the editorial video sales have gone.

gnirtS · « **Reply #78 on:** April 08, 2025, 09:40 »

Quote from: SharkShooter80 on January 23, 2025, 16:23

I'm still trying to decide whether the underwater stuff should be commercial or editorial, but I feel like editorial on Shutterstock and the same stuff on Adobe and iStock can be sold as commercial. From what I understand, the commercial stuff on Shutterstock CANNOT be used as editorial, so i'll go both ways on separate platforms.

Underwater of what? If its just fish, reef etc then its RF (commercial). If its got divers in without a release and/or logos on their clothing, equipment etc which you wont get a release for then its editorial.

You get the same money for both but RF has more uses than editorial (it can be used commercially or editorially if the buyer wants).

Mantis · « **Reply #79 on:** April 08, 2025, 15:35 »

P5 non existent for me in 2025 so far.

MPfoto71 · « **Reply #80 on:** April 08, 2025, 17:28 »

Quote from: Mantis on April 08, 2025, 15:35

P5 non existent for me in 2025 so far.

Same here - 2 downloads in 2025 with about 5.000 Videos.
At least for me Pond5 seems to be a dead horse...

Mantis · « **Reply #81 on:** April 09, 2025, 06:11 »

Quote from: JustAnImage on April 08, 2025, 17:28

Quote from: Mantis on April 08, 2025, 15:35
P5 non existent for me in 2025 so far.
Same here - 2 downloads in 2025 with about 5.000 Videos.
At least for me Pond5 seems to be a dead horse...

Same. I have about 1,600 videos and over 3,500 images. The thing is once SS bought them, I stopped getting sales. I was making $1500 a year until only two years ago after the sale.

stocker2011 · « **Reply #82 on:** May 08, 2025, 21:01 »

How is everyone's sales going from P5? I've had a few sales here and there since January but now seems to have dried up completely.

stoker2014 · « **Reply #83 on:** May 09, 2025, 03:08 »

Pond5 has long been only income from training artificial intelligence.

Pacesetter · « **Reply #84 on:** May 09, 2025, 03:48 »

Bro,

I just created an excel line graph that represents every month since I started on Pond5 in Dec 2019. The X-axis is the month and the y-axis is the dollar amount. Hope this helps.

danielvisuals · « **Reply #85 on:** May 09, 2025, 07:38 »

The pond has been a bit dry lately.

According to the poll results and comments on the Pond5 forum, this experience is shared by many.

Evaristo tenscadisto · « **Reply #86 on:** May 09, 2025, 10:59 »

At the end of last year, when Pond5 announced the changes to exclusive rates—from 60% to 40%—and dataset earnings—from 60% to 20%—I estimated here in the forum that the actual loss would be at least 50% of my monthly income.

I was wrong. It’s significantly more—closer to a 63% drop. So for every $1,000 I used to earn in 2024, I now make around $370.
In my case, I’ve already lost thousands in just the first four months.

But this is all a matter of perspective—what’s bad for me may be good for other contributors, and likely is. Otherwise, how can we explain the fact that Pond5 adds half a million new clips every month?
Most of the new contributors seem to come from Eastern Europe, Russia, and Asia—usually from Bangladesh or India—with some portfolios containing over 100,000 clips.

Mantis · « **Reply #87 on:** May 09, 2025, 14:21 »

Quote from: Evaristo tenscadisto on May 09, 2025, 10:59

At the end of last year, when Pond5 announced the changes to exclusive rates—from 60% to 40%—and dataset earnings—from 60% to 20%—I estimated here in the forum that the actual loss would be at least 50% of my monthly income.

I was wrong. It’s significantly more—closer to a 63% drop. So for every $1,000 I used to earn in 2024, I now make around $370.
In my case, I’ve already lost thousands in just the first four months.

But this is all a matter of perspective—what’s bad for me may be good for other contributors, and likely is. Otherwise, how can we explain the fact that Pond5 adds half a million new clips every month?
Most of the new contributors seem to come from Eastern Europe, Russia, and Asia—usually from Bangladesh or India—with some portfolios containing over 100,000 clips.

I've lost almost 100%. I would get 3-6 DL a month. I just had my second DL of the year last week.

Stockhome Syndrome · « **Reply #88 on:** May 09, 2025, 15:17 »

All of my agencies are trending down, except Adobe that is slightly on an upward path.

alijaber · « **Reply #89 on:** May 09, 2025, 15:48 »

Quote from: Mantis on May 09, 2025, 14:21

Quote from: Evaristo tenscadisto on May 09, 2025, 10:59
At the end of last year, when Pond5 announced the changes to exclusive rates—from 60% to 40%—and dataset earnings—from 60% to 20%—I estimated here in the forum that the actual loss would be at least 50% of my monthly income.

I was wrong. It’s significantly more—closer to a 63% drop. So for every $1,000 I used to earn in 2024, I now make around $370.
In my case, I’ve already lost thousands in just the first four months.

But this is all a matter of perspective—what’s bad for me may be good for other contributors, and likely is. Otherwise, how can we explain the fact that Pond5 adds half a million new clips every month?
Most of the new contributors seem to come from Eastern Europe, Russia, and Asia—usually from Bangladesh or India—with some portfolios containing over 100,000 clips.

I've lost almost 100%. I would get 3-6 DL a month. I just had my second DL of the year last week.

I used to get some sales every month, I still got few, but most sales are under 15$, several below 5$, which made Pond5 another low earning agency. For now Storyblocks is, by far, my highest earner, with much less clips than P5 or SS.

danielvisuals · « **Reply #90 on:** May 09, 2025, 17:38 »

Since January, I've had very few sales from the US in SS. Usually, I get a considerable proportion of my sales from the US.

Maybe the decrease in US buyers could explain everyone's experience across most agencies.

synthetick · « **Reply #91 on:** May 10, 2025, 05:19 »

Quote from: danielvisuals on May 09, 2025, 17:38

Since January, I've had very few sales from the US in SS. Usually, I get a considerable proportion of my sales from the US.

Maybe the decrease in US buyers could explain everyone's experience across most agencies.

Did the US video buyers switch to iStock/Getty? I had a very good month for video in March on iStock/Getty and around two-thirds of my videos DL's were from the US.

cobalt · « **Reply #92 on:** May 10, 2025, 09:38 »

Perhaps they are moving new client contracts or advertising already to istock/getty even before the merger?

I have noticed that on Pond5 many of my files, even old hd files, have been priced much higher and added to the premium collection. hd for 139 usd.

Some clips are being priced lower at 35, but other new clips are 119/135.

This is good, because now at least some of my work will be visible if customers search through premium files.

I still have very few clips up, only 1100 files after 14 years. Shame on me.

mossback · « **Reply #93 on:** May 10, 2025, 21:25 »

Quote from: Evaristo tenscadisto on May 09, 2025, 10:59

At the end of last year, when Pond5 announced the changes to exclusive rates—from 60% to 40%—and dataset earnings—from 60% to 20%—I estimated here in the forum that the actual loss would be at least 50% of my monthly income.

I was wrong. It’s significantly more—closer to a 63% drop. So for every $1,000 I used to earn in 2024, I now make around $370.
In my case, I’ve already lost thousands in just the first four months.

But this is all a matter of perspective—what’s bad for me may be good for other contributors, and likely is. Otherwise, how can we explain the fact that Pond5 adds half a million new clips every month?
Most of the new contributors seem to come from Eastern Europe, Russia, and Asia—usually from Bangladesh or India—with some portfolios containing over 100,000 clips.

My P5 sales are also down significantly. Like depressingly so. I literally remember the day I got the email from Tom Crary saying they were merging with SS. I remember it so well because it was just a horrible thing to read and the feeling of darkness and dread was palpable. In my heart I knew then that P5, which had at one time been an excellent and exceptional agency, was going to be destroyed by all the same terrible policies and practices that plagued SS. I got that email in May of 2022 and so now, three years later, we see that, yes, in fact the sale of P5 to SS was a major disaster and letdown for most (and maybe all) of us. What a shame they couldn't have just kept going like they were. I know the payday was probably very good for the executives- it's understandable. But what a shame for the rest of us.

Evaristo, with typical algorithm changes and SEO shakeups I agree that other contributors can and maybe usually benefit- i.e. the sales just shift to a different contributor. But in this case I think the overall mojo and appeal of P5 as an independent, more selective and higher quality agency and platform overall has subsided and declined, thus leading to a decline in overall traffic and sales across the board. I have no data or figures to support this- it's just my hunch.

I also think the overall uncertainly in the worldwide economy is also a major factor in lower stock sales across the board right now. But even if the macro-economic factors were not in play, I still think P5 would be down simply by virtue of being absorbed by the goons at SS.

As an aside, look at the contributor portal and trends/ideas pages at P5- nothing updated since 2023. And, even worse, they removed all the specialized search queries to see how sales were for a particular clip, contributor, genres, etc. That used to be so valuable. Again, such a shame.

Things always change but this one was truly unfortunate. Crazy that it has been three years now.

cobalt · « **Reply #94 on:** **Yesterday** at 01:31 »

not updating the trend pages is a clear indicator there is nobody left interested in growing the business and sales.

i doubt the demand for video overall has gone down. and there are only 60 million clips over all agencies combined.

pond5 could still be the best video agency if it was promoted properly.

Now we have to wait for what getty will do.

danielvisuals · « **Reply #95 on:** **Yesterday** at 02:43 »

Quote from: cobalt on Yesterday at 01:31

Now we have to wait for what getty will do.

Are your hopeful Getty will be able to improve pond5 ?

stoker2014 · « **Reply #96 on:** **Yesterday** at 03:08 »

The authors are solely to blame for the decline in income on pond5.
1. There has not been a single classic stock that sells videos at high prices for a long time. Adobe is primarily a company that sells software. And the stock in Adobe is just a service for software buyers. Previously, this stock was called Fotolia, but was sold to Adobe. It is possible that the profit of the stock called Adobe is zero or small, but for Adobe it does not matter.
2. Pond5 sold itself because there was not enough profit for the stock to exist.
3. The fault of many authors is that when pond5 tried to open another stock called hyperstock, many began to write on its forum that they would delete their works. Pond5 abandoned the idea that could bring him money to support his classic stock.
Of course, I wrote in support of the stock that it is possible to open a hyperstock, but to take there only those authors who agree, but it is obvious that there were problems with this idea.
4. For a long time, pond5 had a subscription called membership, but then it stopped bringing in income.

The whole problem with classic stocks trying to sell videos at high prices is that there is strong competition from new subscription stocks. Most buyers do not want to pay a fixed price for a video, people need a lot of videos for a small fee. Therefore, unlimited stocks with a fee of $ 16 per month are very popular among buyers.
Yes, there are buyers who need to make their project highly expensive or they have a lot of money, but such buyers are not enough to maintain the profitability of a classic stock.

As for getty, this is not a classic stock. This stock sells videos at very low prices. I think that the main profit of getty is from the sale of photos and videos, which are sold on an exclusive basis.

Authors! Blame only yourself for the bankruptcy of pond5!

As for me, for me pond5 is a place where I can download my videos. This stock gives a normal income from training artificial intelligence.

stoker2014 · « **Reply #97 on:** **Yesterday** at 05:31 »

What amazes me about people is that when pond5 tried to create a hyperstock, many stockers screamed, yelled, were indignant, protested. But when shutterstock switched almost everyone to an unlimited subscription, all these "protesting" stockers silently agreed.

People are a herd, and if a shepherd leads the herd with a firm hand, the herd obeys his orders without complaint. But if the shepherd shows weakness, the herd scatters in different directions.
Hitler wrote about this in his memoirs. He was right.
I see that I am the only one who does not belong to any herd. And this is evident in my life, political and work positions.

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