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Author Topic: Overly high priced "user generated content"? Why?  (Read 1043 times)

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Amelie

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« on: September 02, 2019, 07:03 »
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Hello forum,

I'm still relatively new to the stock world but trying hard to generate footage that doesn't suck and just adds to the pile of image waste. Trying to do so on Pond5 (among others). And now there is this:
https://www.pond5.com/collections/2840465-user-generated-content

For sure you've already seen this, so if there is a thread in this forum talking about it, please let me know. If there isn't, can we please address this topic here? I'm super confused. Like - what? Pond5 is selling low quality YouTube-ish clips for 282?! Guess their "We can make exceptions for unique content, but these exceptions are rare." - guideline is applying here  ::)

But still: is somebody actually buying this? What for? It's already difficult for me to imagine most of the more conventional footage in an actual productions, but these clips...?  Would love to see a commercial with one of them in the real world. If you happen to know any, a link would be much appreciated.

Also wonder how much the "users" who "generated" this content are making out of this. I saw that it's a coop between Pond5 and Newsflare but didn't go into it deeper. Maybe I should - seems more lucrative than what I'm doing atm. It kinda feels wrong, though. Some clips really disgust me - there is quite some (self) exploitation going on.


« Reply #1 on: September 02, 2019, 13:17 »
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The market for footage (and stills) is not only large it's also very broad in the style of footage that is needed. I find the collection interesting and whoever compiled it did a good job. 282 Euros shouldn't be a burden at all for anyone interested in it.

« Reply #2 on: September 02, 2019, 14:54 »
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Even though I'm a P5 contributor, I hadn't seen this before. Appreciated your link and calling attention to it.

But what exactly is this "user generated content"?

Is it somehow different from the rest of the content that we contributors generate?

What makes these clips special enough to be worth $300?

What's with the VERTICAL clips (which I thought were verboten)?

Does P5 make some kind of exclusive selection of these?

Can one somehow apply to get one's footage in this collection?

Curious minds want to know. :)  So thanks in advance if anybody can explain.
« Last Edit: September 02, 2019, 14:58 by marthamarks »

« Reply #3 on: September 02, 2019, 15:01 »
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this collection is all about newsflare...pond5 probably made a deal like they made with reuters for editorial clips...

« Reply #4 on: September 02, 2019, 15:20 »
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I hadn't seen this before. Appreciated your link and calling attention to it.

P5 front page, collections slider, the guy on the scate with a helmet holding a selfiestick smiling

About the vertical clips, had the same question some time ago, if they are accepted and if they sell.
For sure they accept in P5, I tried uploading some,still do from time to time, but no sales. (at least for me..)
As far as I remember AS didnt accepted for sure and I think SS same didn't accept.

@Amelie, probably you will mot see any commercials out f those clips, they are marked editorial :)

It is interesting though  if people subbmiting those to Newsflare took any money or just gave away to be viral.
« Last Edit: September 02, 2019, 15:29 by georgep7 »

wds

« Reply #5 on: September 02, 2019, 15:48 »
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Has anyone had any experience selling on Newsflare?

Amelie

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« Reply #6 on: September 03, 2019, 04:37 »
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The market for footage (and stills) is not only large it's also very broad in the style of footage that is needed. I find the collection interesting and whoever compiled it did a good job. 282 Euros shouldn't be a burden at all for anyone interested in it.

I agree - it's an interesting collection. However, some videos are just too much as they display their protagonists pretty undignified (for the lack of a better word rn). At least, those clips are editorial and not commercial, as @george7 pointed out. Thanks for that reminder, I overlooked it. It makes me wonder even more, though, who is using this footage for what. I can only think of TV Shows with compilations of "The craziest Cats / Dogs / People / whatever". But apart from that...?

But what exactly is this "user generated content"?

Is it somehow different from the rest of the content that we contributors generate?

What makes these clips special enough to be worth $300?

What's with the VERTICAL clips (which I thought were verboten)?

Does P5 make some kind of exclusive selection of these?

Can one somehow apply to get one's footage in this collection?

Good questions. Would like to know, too. I actually have one clip shot by my brother with his smartphone that is quite funny. Will try to offer it to Newsflare or/and Pond5. Will post here IF they say anything interesting.

« Reply #7 on: September 03, 2019, 21:50 »
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My experience with selling on Newsflare has been interesting, from hundreds of dollars to literally pennies per clip or edited series of clips, mostly pennies but the high dollar sales are nice and you are paid in British pounds which coverts nicely at the moment.

The obviously are more editorial but good spectacular stunning footage of anything can sell there, one of my best sellers there was a sky on fire red sunset.

No, you cannot make a living selling through them but one very nice thing about Newsflare is you see exactly who the buyer is of your footage, it is included in the sales reports, you don't get to set prices, that's all done by them and I am not sure what's involved but when something sells you have full transparency, you see who the client is and that's just awesome.


« Reply #8 on: September 03, 2019, 21:55 »
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@mathamarks  "What's with the VERTICAL clips (which I thought were verboten)?"

This is new to me as well but Pond5 is also getting into vertical and it's on there site somewhere, I guess it was made popular with Instagram and it might be where things are going, I have seen a few of them on social media and it saves you having to turn your phone horizontal to watch the video :)

Yes times are a changing.....

« Reply #9 on: September 04, 2019, 04:12 »
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A new (under test) feature exept actual selling own videos
Not sure that i understand how it works.
Aren't those third party videos that one submit?

Quote
You can start earning with Newsflare, simply:
Discover original and compelling videos posted on social media.
Copy the URL of the video and submit the video tip to Newsflare for review.
Earn money for every video tip that is approved.
Videos that Newsflare want tipping

Anything with a unique or interesting action
Extreme weather  - tornadoes, floods, lightning, huge storms, massive hail, huge waves, etc
News footage footage of any newsworthy event that is interesting
Cute pets, kids, families
Dashcam - learner drivers, road rage, crashes
Fails falls, slips, and crashes
Animal videos unusual animals, animal attacks, unusual animal behaviour, wildlife rescues
When logged in - take a look at your home page and see what is selling - this will give you a flavour of the various videos that go onto make a sale!

https://help.newsflare.com/hc/en-gb/articles/115003715525

wds

« Reply #10 on: September 04, 2019, 08:22 »
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So P5 wants people to sell their HD clips for $79, but they are selling these for $300????

« Reply #11 on: September 04, 2019, 08:35 »
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Who else sells vertical clips?

Amelie

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« Reply #12 on: September 08, 2019, 05:41 »
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No, you cannot make a living selling through them but one very nice thing about Newsflare is you see exactly who the buyer is of your footage, it is included in the sales reports, you don't get to set prices, that's all done by them and I am not sure what's involved but when something sells you have full transparency, you see who the client is and that's just awesome.

I love that! Definitely will try to sell through them now. So good to know who is buying your stuff. Thanks a lot for sharing this.

Amelie

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« Reply #13 on: September 08, 2019, 05:45 »
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So P5 wants people to sell their HD clips for $79, but they are selling these for $300????

Excactly my point ;) Like...what? But okay, it's all about "authenticity", isn't it. These kind of clips may be the next level of it, like the real realness. Or so it seems comparing pricing.

« Reply #14 on: September 08, 2019, 05:53 »
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So P5 wants people to sell their HD clips for $79, but they are selling these for $300????

Excactly my point ;) Like...what? But okay, it's all about "authenticity", isn't it. These kind of clips may be the next level of it, like the real realness. Or so it seems comparing pricing.

kinda humorous answer.
newsflare are newcomers to P5.
Welcome dear artist, yes price as you like, no prob mate.
Time will tell.
hehehe!
:P


 

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