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Title: photos
Post by: picture5469 on August 14, 2012, 18:04
p5 now accepting photos, and you can set your own price!

Thats put a cat amongst the pidgeons!

didnt they partner with 123rf? if i have work on 123rf that is mirrored on p5 will that cause a conflict of interest??
Title: Re: photos
Post by: Will on August 14, 2012, 18:18
Finally some good news and from a decent agency as well. Set your own price and... best of all, 50 percent royalty!
Title: Re: photos
Post by: steheap on August 14, 2012, 19:45
Did you see in their FAQ that the color space must be Adobe RGB. I suspect that I am like most stock contributors and have set all my JPEGs to sRGB. I've asked a question on their site about how strict this rule is.

Steve
Title: Re: photos
Post by: traveler1116 on August 14, 2012, 19:58
Did you see in their FAQ that the color space must be Adobe RGB. I suspect that I am like most stock contributors and have set all my JPEGs to sRGB. I've asked a question on their site about how strict this rule is.

Steve
I doubt they will be very strict with this, they don't do rejections do they?
Title: Re: photos
Post by: luissantos84 on August 14, 2012, 20:03
beside the rRGB issue, i have noticed a few other things looking at my portfolio there from 123RF

- portfolio there since 2011-02-22 23:01 (looks like everybody has the same date)
- 123RF (4577 files) pond5 (3692 files)
- 22 downloads
- only 83 files have 1 or more views
Title: Re: photos
Post by: steheap on August 14, 2012, 21:28
Luis

Yes - I see that I have 1620 files on Pond5 compared with 3242 on 123RF. I hadn't realized that there was a deal between the two of them. I see some downloads as well (37 - a few more than you!!), but presumably these have all been paid through 123RF. How on earth are we supposed to upload directly to Pond5 without creating a lot of duplicates?

Steve
Title: Re: photos
Post by: luissantos84 on August 14, 2012, 21:30
Luis

Yes - I see that I have 1620 files on Pond5 compared with 3242 on 123RF. I hadn't realized that there was a deal between the two of them. I see some downloads as well (a few more than you!!), but presumably these have all been paid through 123RF. How on earth are we supposed to upload directly to Pond5 without creating a lot of duplicates?

Steve

have no idea but i believe it is still soon to dream with many sales there, my 22 show how they sell comparing to 123RF (which is actually down lately), i believe it would be better for us/them to end the partnership perhaps
Title: Re: photos
Post by: click_click on August 14, 2012, 21:51
I strongly assume that Pond5 has some sort of duplicate prevention system in place to push 123RF duplicates out of their site.

Obviously Pond5 wants to get the bigger piece of the pie without paying 123RF so hopefully direct uploads are prioritized.
Title: Re: photos
Post by: picture5469 on August 15, 2012, 01:03
I saw the Adobe colour space and thought it was a mistake. Thankfully i have a wide gamut range monitor. However it will be a pain to edit pics in two different colour spaces.
Title: Re: photos
Post by: sharpshot on August 15, 2012, 01:23
Surely they'll accept sRGB?  Going to upload a few to find out.
Title: Re: photos
Post by: picture5469 on August 15, 2012, 05:31
Could it be though that they intend to compete on the basis of aRGB files and set themselves aside from the competition. Most designers would use a wide gamut range monitor wouldnt they?
Title: Re: photos
Post by: ShadySue on August 15, 2012, 05:47
Could it be though that they intend to compete on the basis of aRGB files and set themselves aside from the competition. Most designers would use a wide gamut range monitor wouldnt they?
I believe iStock sell M and above images as aRGB for print and Sm and XSm as sRGB for screen (?)
Title: Re: photos
Post by: sharpshot on August 15, 2012, 06:01
Could it be though that they intend to compete on the basis of aRGB files and set themselves aside from the competition. Most designers would use a wide gamut range monitor wouldnt they?
I very much doubt it.  Doesn't make any sense for all of us that have sRGB files to have to convert them all to aRGB.  They're sensible, so I presume they meant sRGB OK as well, they just don't want people to upload CMYK or other inappropriate color profiles.
Title: direct photo submission and partner conflict
Post by: icholakov on August 15, 2012, 08:44
So the deal seems to be as follows:
1. there is no mechanism to identify or prevent duplicate images coming from 123rf and directly submitted to pond5. Pond5 does not physically store photos from 123rf, they are displayed via API. pond5 will review and approve photos based on their individual merit only
2. As a photographer, you can opt out of 123rd's partner sales and start submitting directly to pond5. The problem is when opting out, you are opting out of all partner sales, not just pond5
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I think sooner or later pond5 will have to address this issue in a better way. particularly if buyers searching for photos start seeing more often the same photos pop up twice in their search results and priced differently
Title: Re: photos
Post by: sharpshot on August 15, 2012, 11:44
^^^ I have no problem opting out of all 123RF third party sites.  We get a tiny commission, after 123RF and the third party site take their share.  Hopefully the 50% with Pond5 will cover that.  If 123RF go ahead with their commission cut, I might not bother uploading to them anymore.
Title: Re: photos
Post by: luissantos84 on August 15, 2012, 11:47
^^^ I have no problem opting out of all 123RF third party sites.  We get a tiny commission, after 123RF and the third party site take their share.  Hopefully the 50% with Pond5 will cover that.  If 123RF go ahead with their commission cut, I might not bother uploading to them anymore.

thats very soon to predict good sales at pond5, sure they have buyers but they arenīt properly into pictures, at least for now
Title: Re: photos
Post by: Smithore on August 15, 2012, 12:32
I've just tried to upload some photos this afternoon, and after some hours, they still not showing up in the upload queue edition, other person tried?
Title: Re: photos
Post by: Megastock on August 15, 2012, 12:36
I've just tried to upload some photos this afternoon, and after some hours, they still not showing up in the upload queue edition, other person tried?

I tried uploading a couple via FTP and they showed up, allowed me to edit and submit...
Title: Re: photos
Post by: Smithore on August 15, 2012, 12:59
Thanks,
Do they showing up immediately? Do you sent adobe rgb or srgv photos?
Title: Re: photos
Post by: luissantos84 on August 15, 2012, 13:11
Thanks,
Do they showing up immediately? Do you sent adobe rgb or srgv photos?

i have tried 2 files yesterday via website and they showed up, not immediately but like 3 minutes after, they are sRGB
Title: Re: photos
Post by: Smithore on August 15, 2012, 13:14
Ok, I've just send email to Pond5, and they answer me many contributors send actually pictures, and the ftp queue is long..
Title: Re: direct photo submission and partner conflict
Post by: picture5469 on August 15, 2012, 14:14
So the deal seems to be as follows:
1. there is no mechanism to identify or prevent duplicate images coming from 123rf and directly submitted to pond5. Pond5 does not physically store photos from 123rf, they are displayed via API. pond5 will review and approve photos based on their individual merit only


I think you need to contact p5 support for clarification on this one. I cant imagine that have didnt think of this issue before starting their new campaign.

They do accept sRGB by the way

Mark
Title: Re: direct photo submission and partner conflict
Post by: luissantos84 on August 15, 2012, 14:17
They do accept sRGB by the way

when have you got them approved?
Title: Re: photos
Post by: cascoly on August 15, 2012, 14:34
beside the rRGB issue, i have noticed a few other things looking at my portfolio there from 123RF

- portfolio there since 2011-02-22 23:01 (looks like everybody has the same date)
- 123RF (4577 files) pond5 (3692 files)
- 22 downloads
- only 83 files have 1 or more views

how do you see your 123 images that are on pond5?
Title: Re: photos
Post by: click_click on August 15, 2012, 14:37
beside the rRGB issue, i have noticed a few other things looking at my portfolio there from 123RF

- portfolio there since 2011-02-22 23:01 (looks like everybody has the same date)
- 123RF (4577 files) pond5 (3692 files)
- 22 downloads
- only 83 files have 1 or more views

how do you see your 123 images that are on pond5?
Yeah, before I drive myself crazy finding this info:

Where are the sales of 123RF photos at Pond5 reported?
Title: Re: photos
Post by: luissantos84 on August 15, 2012, 14:38
beside the rRGB issue, i have noticed a few other things looking at my portfolio there from 123RF

- portfolio there since 2011-02-22 23:01 (looks like everybody has the same date)
- 123RF (4577 files) pond5 (3692 files)
- 22 downloads
- only 83 files have 1 or more views


how do you see your 123 images that are on pond5?


http://www.pond5.com/artist/[email protected] (http://www.pond5.com/artist/[email protected])
Title: Re: photos
Post by: luissantos84 on August 15, 2012, 14:39
beside the rRGB issue, i have noticed a few other things looking at my portfolio there from 123RF

- portfolio there since 2011-02-22 23:01 (looks like everybody has the same date)
- 123RF (4577 files) pond5 (3692 files)
- 22 downloads
- only 83 files have 1 or more views


how do you see your 123 images that are on pond5?

Yeah, before I drive myself crazy finding this info:

Where are the sales of 123RF photos at Pond5 reported?


from Steve portfolio, 2 downloads, just place by most downloaded

http://www.pond5.com/photo/5951130/taillaraju-steep-ridged-mountain-with-glacier-icefall-cordillera-blanca-ande.html (http://www.pond5.com/photo/5951130/taillaraju-steep-ridged-mountain-with-glacier-icefall-cordillera-blanca-ande.html)
Title: Re: direct photo submission and partner conflict
Post by: picture5469 on August 15, 2012, 14:52
They do accept sRGB by the way

when have you got them approved?

I emailed support about sRGB issue and the duplicate issue with 123rf. They resolved both matters for me.
Title: Re: photos
Post by: click_click on August 15, 2012, 14:55
from Steve portfolio, 2 downloads, just place by most downloaded

[url]http://www.pond5.com/photo/5951130/taillaraju-steep-ridged-mountain-with-glacier-icefall-cordillera-blanca-ande.html[/url] ([url]http://www.pond5.com/photo/5951130/taillaraju-steep-ridged-mountain-with-glacier-icefall-cordillera-blanca-ande.html[/url])

Yeah I figured that out already. What I wanted to see is where I can find ALL images downloaded from Pond5 together with the commission amount etc at 123RF.

I can't find those affiliate sales in the download history at 123RF. Maybe the Pond5 sales are so scarce, that I would have to wade through hundreds of pages before finding one...
Title: Re: direct photo submission and partner conflict
Post by: luissantos84 on August 15, 2012, 14:55
delete
Title: Re: photos
Post by: luissantos84 on August 15, 2012, 14:56
from Steve portfolio, 2 downloads, just place by most downloaded

[url]http://www.pond5.com/photo/5951130/taillaraju-steep-ridged-mountain-with-glacier-icefall-cordillera-blanca-ande.html[/url] ([url]http://www.pond5.com/photo/5951130/taillaraju-steep-ridged-mountain-with-glacier-icefall-cordillera-blanca-ande.html[/url])

Yeah I figured that out already. What I wanted to see is where I can find ALL images downloaded from Pond5 together with the commission amount etc at 123RF.

I can't find those affiliate sales in the download history at 123RF. Maybe the Pond5 sales are so scarce, that I would have to wade through hundreds of pages before finding one...


donīt think you can or will ever see that detailed, pixmac does offer that, actually fotolia too
Title: Re: photos
Post by: click_click on August 15, 2012, 15:04
...pixmac does offer that, actually fotolia too

Fotolia does that? Sorry for being OT, where can I see partner sales at Fotolia?

Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: photos
Post by: luissantos84 on August 15, 2012, 15:08
...pixmac does offer that, actually fotolia too


Fotolia does that? Sorry for being OT, where can I see partner sales at Fotolia?

Thanks in advance.


actually just checked and it ainīt available anymore, maybe because of the latest design, on the Details there was a chance to see the Partner, not anymore ::)

http://www.fotolia.com/Member/MyCredits?credits_page=1 (http://www.fotolia.com/Member/MyCredits?credits_page=1)

Credit for subscription based photo sale by reseller

before you could see the name of the Partner
Title: Re: photos
Post by: click_click on August 15, 2012, 15:26
actually just checked and it ainīt available anymore, maybe because of the latest design, on the Details there was a chance to see the Partner, not anymore ::)

[url]http://www.fotolia.com/Member/MyCredits?credits_page=1[/url] ([url]http://www.fotolia.com/Member/MyCredits?credits_page=1[/url])

Credit for subscription based photo sale by reseller

before you could see the name of the Partner

Huh what a bummer. In all the years I never saw that additional info.

Would have loved to see how well the partners actually performed...
Title: Re: photos
Post by: luissantos84 on August 15, 2012, 15:34
actually just checked and it ainīt available anymore, maybe because of the latest design, on the Details there was a chance to see the Partner, not anymore ::)

[url]http://www.fotolia.com/Member/MyCredits?credits_page=1[/url] ([url]http://www.fotolia.com/Member/MyCredits?credits_page=1[/url])

Credit for subscription based photo sale by reseller

before you could see the name of the Partner

Huh what a bummer. In all the years I never saw that additional info.

Would have loved to see how well the partners actually performed...


very poorly at least regarding my own sales
Title: Re: photos
Post by: cascoly on August 15, 2012, 15:48
beside the rRGB issue, i have noticed a few other things looking at my portfolio there from 123RF

- portfolio there since 2011-02-22 23:01 (looks like everybody has the same date)
- 123RF (4577 files) pond5 (3692 files)
- 22 downloads
- only 83 files have 1 or more views


how do you see your 123 images that are on pond5?


[url]http://www.pond5.com/artist/[email protected][/url] ([url]http://www.pond5.com/artist/[email protected][/url])


thanks - odd i couldnt find this from my pond5 dashboard  [and i didnt know the syntax for artist lookup]

while you're here -- i couldnt find any details of how to actually submit images to pond5 -- i ftp'd a small test batch as usual for footage, but there's nothing indicating images
Title: Re: photos
Post by: luissantos84 on August 15, 2012, 15:51
beside the rRGB issue, i have noticed a few other things looking at my portfolio there from 123RF

- portfolio there since 2011-02-22 23:01 (looks like everybody has the same date)
- 123RF (4577 files) pond5 (3692 files)
- 22 downloads
- only 83 files have 1 or more views


how do you see your 123 images that are on pond5?


[url]http://www.pond5.com/artist/[email protected][/url] ([url]http://www.pond5.com/artist/[email protected][/url])


thanks - odd i couldnt find this from my pond5 dashboard  [and i didnt know the syntax for artist lookup]

while you're here -- i couldnt find any details of how to actually submit images to pond5 -- i ftp'd a small test batch as usual for footage, but there's nothing indicating images


looks like some are having those issues, via website works well at least for me

http://www.pond5.com/index.php?page=my_uploads (http://www.pond5.com/index.php?page=my_uploads)
Title: Re: photos
Post by: Anita Potter on August 15, 2012, 16:28
I might start doing that with some of the stuff I have.  I know they don't take vectors but wonder if they'd take rasters and 3d raster images.  I'll have to put theirs in a separate folder for upload.  I'm thinking that they want the Adobe 1998 rgb color profile images because I could've sworn that 123 wanted the same thing a few years ago.

I really don't want to have to change color profiles that would be a lot of work.
Title: Re: photos
Post by: cascoly on August 15, 2012, 17:36
  looks like some are having those issues, via website works well at least for me

[url]http://www.pond5.com/index.php?page=my_uploads[/url] ([url]http://www.pond5.com/index.php?page=my_uploads[/url])


do you also submit footage to pond?   when i use that link, which is also on my dashbd, i just see my footage, no matter how i sort or select  [i've send an email to their support, too, so will report if anything changes]
Title: Re: photos
Post by: luissantos84 on August 15, 2012, 18:39
  looks like some are having those issues, via website works well at least for me

[url]http://www.pond5.com/index.php?page=my_uploads[/url] ([url]http://www.pond5.com/index.php?page=my_uploads[/url])


do you also submit footage to pond?   when i use that link, which is also on my dashbd, i just see my footage, no matter how i sort or select  [i've send an email to their support, too, so will report if anything changes]


i donīt
Title: Re: photos
Post by: bendicks on August 16, 2012, 11:00
Do I have to re-apply as a photo submitter, currently a video submitter.

I did upload my port. I can find no where to set prices for photo or any kind of photo template.

They did have my port. from 123 but I deactivated partner distribution yesterday on 123RF

Thanks,
Don
Title: Re: photos
Post by: rimglow on August 16, 2012, 11:26
p5 now accepting photos, and you can set your own price!

Thats put a cat amongst the pidgeons!

didnt they partner with 123rf? if i have work on 123rf that is mirrored on p5 will that cause a conflict of interest??

I see my portfolio there even though I never uploaded anything. But there is no way to set your own price. My highest resolution images are being sold for $10.
Title: Re: photos
Post by: luissantos84 on August 16, 2012, 11:34
p5 now accepting photos, and you can set your own price!

Thats put a cat amongst the pidgeons!

didnt they partner with 123rf? if i have work on 123rf that is mirrored on p5 will that cause a conflict of interest??

I see my portfolio there even though I never uploaded anything. But there is no way to set your own price. My highest resolution images are being sold for $10.

sure there is way, you just need to upload on their website, like many said in this topic files are there from 123rf
Title: Re: photos
Post by: rimglow on August 16, 2012, 11:51
p5 now accepting photos, and you can set your own price!

Thats put a cat amongst the pidgeons!

didnt they partner with 123rf? if i have work on 123rf that is mirrored on p5 will that cause a conflict of interest??

I see my portfolio there even though I never uploaded anything. But there is no way to set your own price. My highest resolution images are being sold for $10.

sure there is way, you just need to upload on their website, like many said in this topic files are there from 123rf

There is no need to upload anything. My whole portfolio is already there. Maybe you can explain the steps to set prices. I can't find it.

   "Step 2: Tag your files with info, including a description, keywords, and a price."  How do you do this?
I think this info has been locked in by 123rf and can't be altered.
Title: Re: photos
Post by: bendicks on August 16, 2012, 12:13
p5 now accepting photos, and you can set your own price!

Thats put a cat amongst the pidgeons!

didnt they partner with 123rf? if i have work on 123rf that is mirrored on p5 will that cause a conflict of interest??

I see my portfolio there even though I never uploaded anything. But there is no way to set your own price. My highest resolution images are being sold for $10.


Okay looks like I figured it out.......When editing set the price for for the image you uploaded (your max size), the system will automatically do the down sizing and pricing based on original image and price that was set once reviewed and accepted.....at least that is the way I interpret it.

Wonder how long it takes for 123RF to stop my images going to pond, I opted out yesterday but my port. still show at pond.


-Don
Title: Re: photos
Post by: luissantos84 on August 16, 2012, 12:22
p5 now accepting photos, and you can set your own price!

Thats put a cat amongst the pidgeons!

didnt they partner with 123rf? if i have work on 123rf that is mirrored on p5 will that cause a conflict of interest??

I see my portfolio there even though I never uploaded anything. But there is no way to set your own price. My highest resolution images are being sold for $10.

sure there is way, you just need to upload on their website, like many said in this topic files are there from 123rf

There is no need to upload anything. My whole portfolio is already there. Maybe you can explain the steps to set prices. I can't find it.

   "Step 2: Tag your files with info, including a description, keywords, and a price."  How do you do this?
I think this info has been locked in by 123rf and can't be altered.

I would love to know what you are talking about but the only thing I can see at pond5 are the files from 123rf, like you and other can, browsing the agency, I cannot do anything else to the files that are online
Title: Re: photos
Post by: Megastock on August 16, 2012, 13:47
Do I have to re-apply as a photo submitter, currently a video submitter.

I did upload my port. I can find no where to set prices for photo or any kind of photo template.

They did have my port. from 123 but I deactivated partner distribution yesterday on 123RF

Thanks,
Don

Shouldn't have to.  I had some videos there from a while back, and was able to upload photos (uploaded 2, both approved)...  They created a separate acct for the 123RF linked images (for me).
Title: Re: photos
Post by: bendicks on August 16, 2012, 14:45
Thanks Megastock......
Title: Re: photos
Post by: cascoly on August 17, 2012, 00:37
my uploaded images now showup with my footage [which is a bit of a hassle], but the 123 port doesnt  show there - dont know how search will work

but still have to edit each image separately to set a price, as it doesnt accept the $1 default price
Title: Re: photos
Post by: trek on August 17, 2012, 07:12
Anyone know what the deal will be for Extended Licences?
Title: Re: photos
Post by: luissantos84 on August 17, 2012, 07:26
Anyone know what the deal will be for Extended Licences?

>> 50 Percent Commissions on All Sales. Simple, straightforward and very competitive in the stock industry.

but I donīt see an option for EL purchase
Title: Re: photos
Post by: mtkang on August 18, 2012, 00:16
how about eps vector? do they accept it?
Title: Re: photos
Post by: Anita Potter on August 18, 2012, 04:23
In the email I got it said that they don't yet accept vector files.  I uploaded a test illustration just a jpg and not in adobe 1998 colorspace just to see if it goes through or not.  I will post back once it gets reviewed.
Title: Re: photos
Post by: steheap on August 19, 2012, 13:09
I have had a long set of discussions with support. Here is the summary:

1. sRGB is OK - they accept that.
2. You can disable your 123RF portfolio, which only pays out at the 123 rate, by emailing support, telling them your Pond5 and 123 IDs and they will do so. That will start you from a clean plate.
3. You have to set the prices of all your images - the going rate seems to be $10 from what I see. You will get 50% of that. Not sure about Enhanced/extended licenses. You can upload via FTP and then change the prices of the entire batch using one of the commands at the bottom of the upload page. You can also add Model releases the same way.
4. No categories - not even editorial. Their reviewers decide if something is editorial as they review it.
5. I think review times are very long at present because of the new uploads.

Steve
Title: Re: photos
Post by: luissantos84 on August 19, 2012, 13:12
I have had a long set of discussions with support. Here is the summary:

1. sRGB is OK - they accept that.
2. You can disable your 123RF portfolio, which only pays out at the 123 rate, by emailing support, telling them your Pond5 and 123 IDs and they will do so. That will start you from a clean plate.
3. You have to set the prices of all your images - the going rate seems to be $10 from what I see. You will get 50% of that. Not sure about Enhanced/extended licenses. You can upload via FTP and then change the prices of the entire batch using one of the commands at the bottom of the upload page. You can also add Model releases the same way.
4. No categories - not even editorial. Their reviewers decide if something is editorial as they review it.
5. I think review times are very long at present because of the new uploads.

Steve

exactly! I have been waiting for review since this topic is open! well written, thanks for taking the time :)
Title: Re: photos
Post by: steheap on August 19, 2012, 13:32
Quote
exactly! I have been waiting for review since this topic is open! well written, thanks for taking the time

Thanks! I like to watch a post wander around for three pages, gathering moss, and then give a succinct answer!

Steve
Title: Re: photos
Post by: Carl on August 19, 2012, 14:12
I've been selling video clips on Pond5 for quite some time, and I've been very pleased with the site and the personnel.  I've been waiting for a long time for them to accept photos, and I've submitted my first batch with great anticipation.  If all goes well, I'll probably cease uploading on all sites except SS and Pond5.  I'll give serious consideration to being exclusive to Pond5 because the benefits of setting my own price and getting 50% are rather obvious, and unmatched anywhere else that I'm aware of.  If Pond5 is the catalyst for turning around our race to the bottom, then this is cause for celebration.  If not, I'll just run the other direction with P5, and the others can keep doing what they're doing, but they'll do it without me.   :)
Title: Re: photos
Post by: trek on August 19, 2012, 14:18
I like pond5 but having to manually input the creation date and camera model is time consuming and lame.  Especially since the info is already in the photo exif.  Anyone try submitting without inputting that info? 
Title: Re: photos
Post by: sharpshot on August 19, 2012, 14:49
^^^Yes, you can leave those bits blank.
Title: Re: photos
Post by: cascoly on August 19, 2012, 21:37
the $10 is the lowest price it will accept - -- looks like it's treatingimages as footage
Title: Re: photos
Post by: sharpshot on August 20, 2012, 03:23
^^^I did use $6 to start with but then decided to change it to $10.  $10 is still low priced because that's for full size, blog size sells for $1.  Going any lower doesn't seem worth it.
Title: Re: photos
Post by: Wim on August 20, 2012, 04:20
Alright, signed up, so far all went very smooth, let's hope reviews are fast and consistent and sales will follow.
Title: Re: photos
Post by: mtkang on August 20, 2012, 04:48
it seems there is no way to batch process all the files with IPTC data?
Title: Re: photos
Post by: Smithore on August 20, 2012, 06:16
I've put 10$ too, but the blog size goes from 2 to 4 $, depending of the picture maximum size, seems too high for the smallest size.
Somebody ask in the Pond5 forum to let the seller set the prices for all formats by default.
Title: Re: photos
Post by: microstockphoto.co.uk on August 20, 2012, 07:51
it seems there is no way to batch process all the files with IPTC data?

I spent a few hours submitting photos one by one, then found out a way to batch submit eventually (I swear it wasn't there yesterday!):

1. select all photos

2. from the drop-down list "Actions:" at the bottom choose "set price"

3. from the drop-down list "Actions:" (again) choose "send to curator"
Title: Re: photos
Post by: luissantos84 on August 20, 2012, 08:05
it seems there is no way to batch process all the files with IPTC data?

I spent a few hours submitting photos one by one, then found out a way to batch submit eventually (I swear it wasn't there yesterday!):

1. select all photos

2. from the drop-down list "Actions:" at the bottom choose "set price"

3. from the drop-down list "Actions:" (again) choose "send to curator"

its there at least from the openning of this thread :)
Title: Re: photos
Post by: microstockphoto.co.uk on August 20, 2012, 08:11

its there at least from the openning of this thread :)

Nice to know that I just wasted a few hours...  :D
anyway when I look at the site from my android tablet I still can't get past the first 4 elements in the list, probably a browser issue. Everything works fine from Firefox on my regular desktop pc.
Title: Re: photos
Post by: jm on August 20, 2012, 08:17
I've put 10$ too, but the blog size goes from 2 to 4 $, depending of the picture maximum size, seems too high for the smallest size.
Somebody ask in the Pond5 forum to let the seller set the prices for all formats by default.

+1. When I try to set price to 8, blog size is 4.40. It's nice, but expensive.
Is there any way how to change the prices to usual 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 10?
Title: Re: photos
Post by: luissantos84 on August 20, 2012, 08:21
I've put 10$ too, but the blog size goes from 2 to 4 $, depending of the picture maximum size, seems too high for the smallest size.
Somebody ask in the Pond5 forum to let the seller set the prices for all formats by default.

+1. When I try to set price to 8, blog size is 4.40. It's nice, but expensive.
Is there any way how to change the prices to usual 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 10?

contact them, perhaps they can help
Title: Re: photos
Post by: sharpshot on August 20, 2012, 17:16
Alright, signed up, so far all went very smooth, let's hope reviews are fast and consistent and sales will follow.
I don't think reviews will be fast.  Video reviews can take weeks.  They'll have a huge amount of stills to wade through now.  If the reviews are like video, it will take a great effort to get a rejection, they seem to accept everything.
Title: Re: photos
Post by: THP Creative on August 21, 2012, 00:18
when setting the price, mine comes up with the default as being "1". So are we setting the MINIMUM price, or the Maximum price?
Title: Re: photos
Post by: microstockphoto.co.uk on August 21, 2012, 01:10
when setting the price, mine comes up with the default as being "1". So are we setting the MINIMUM price, or the Maximum price?

The default is $1 but it's too low: you'll get an error message if you try to submit. It must be at least $2.

We are setting the price for the maximum picture size; price for smaller sizes will be automatically scaled.
Title: Re: photos
Post by: THP Creative on August 21, 2012, 02:41
Cheers, gotta go back and fix mine up then!
Title: Re: photos
Post by: KB on August 21, 2012, 11:58
when setting the price, mine comes up with the default as being "1". So are we setting the MINIMUM price, or the Maximum price?

The default is $1 but it's too low: you'll get an error message if you try to submit. It must be at least $2.

We are setting the price for the maximum picture size; price for smaller sizes will be automatically scaled.
So the default price for the maximum picture size is $1?  :o  What are they thinking by setting it at that?
Title: Re: photos
Post by: Smithore on August 21, 2012, 14:03
It's not a real default price, the "1" means you don't have set the price!!
Title: Re: photos
Post by: THP Creative on August 21, 2012, 19:49
So if you leave it at "1", what price does it default too when live?
Title: Re: photos
Post by: Smithore on August 22, 2012, 11:40
Please, read the entire post before asking questions  ;D

Quote
The default is $1 but it's too low: you'll get an error message if you try to submit. It must be at least $2.

We are setting the price for the maximum picture size; price for smaller sizes will be automatically scaled.
Title: Re: photos
Post by: KB on August 22, 2012, 11:51
The default is $1 but it's too low: you'll get an error message if you try to submit. It must be at least $2.

Ah, $2. That's much better.

 ;D
Title: Re: photos
Post by: luissantos84 on August 22, 2012, 11:58
at 8$:

blog (569x857) $3.20
web (1139x1715) $4.40
print (1708x2572) $5.60
ultrahigh (2278x3430) $6.80
megahigh (2848x4288) $8

at 10$:

blog (569x857) $4
web (1139x1715) $5.50
print (1708x2572) $7
ultrahigh (2278x3430) $8.5
megahigh (2848x4288) $10

I believe they need to lower the blog/web prices
Title: Re: photos
Post by: jm on August 22, 2012, 12:18
This is rubbish.  We should choose the price of smallest size.
If I have only L size of some image because of cropping or other reason, price of blog size is extremely high (in microstock world) if 10 USD is set as default. I don't want to go through all the images to set price individually.
Title: Re: photos
Post by: KB on August 22, 2012, 13:28
This is rubbish.  We should choose the price of smallest size.
If I have only L size of some image because of cropping or other reason, price of blog size is extremely high (in microstock world) if 10 USD is set as default. I don't want to go through all the images to set price individually.
I absolutely agree. And then the $2 minimum price ($1 commission) would be a decent one. I hope they consider changing that.
Title: Re: photos
Post by: Smithore on August 22, 2012, 13:32
Quote
I believe they need to lower the blog/web prices
Yeah, somebody already talk about that on the pond5 forum, just changing the quota and all done!!!
Can't wait to see the selling at pond 5, if they doing well, sellers can start to leave the unfair agencies, almost all!
Title: Re: photos
Post by: sharpshot on August 22, 2012, 13:43
^^^There's several other sites that pay 50% commission.  Try GLStockImages, 52% commission and they already have stills buyers.  Pond5 is great for video but they seem like different markets.  Some of their buyers might want stills but I think it will take a long time for them to be competitive with the big microstock sites.
Title: Re: photos
Post by: microstockphoto.co.uk on August 22, 2012, 13:46
The default is $1 but it's too low: you'll get an error message if you try to submit. It must be at least $2.

Ah, $2. That's much better.

 ;D

I didn't mean $2 is good. It's just the minimum price you can technically choose. In fact, I set everything at $9.
Title: Re: photos
Post by: Smithore on August 22, 2012, 13:46
Sharpshot, thanks for the advert, yes I'm selling video on Pond 5 too, Did you already tried GLstockimages?
Title: Re: photos
Post by: luissantos84 on August 22, 2012, 14:47
^^^There's several other sites that pay 50% commission.  Try GLStockImages, 52% commission and they already have stills buyers.  Pond5 is great for video but they seem like different markets.  Some of their buyers might want stills but I think it will take a long time for them to be competitive with the big microstock sites.

sure but its impossible not to imagine a good future (I guess) for them, arenīt they number 1 or 2 in terms of video? I believe we have a good chance here
Title: Re: photos
Post by: KB on August 22, 2012, 15:12
The default is $1 but it's too low: you'll get an error message if you try to submit. It must be at least $2.

Ah, $2. That's much better.

 ;D

I didn't mean $2 is good. It's just the minimum price you can technically choose. In fact, I set everything at $9.

I didn't think you meant it was good. I was just being a bit sarcastic, as I don't see why they would allow such a low minimum price for maximum size. It hurts them, and it hurts contributors. $2 as a minimum websize pic is ok (though I'm sure there are plenty who would prefer an even lower price), but as a minimum price for max size, it just doesn't make sense to me.
Title: Re: photos
Post by: sharpshot on August 22, 2012, 17:45
Sharpshot, thanks for the advert, yes I'm selling video on Pond 5 too, Did you already tried GLstockimages?
Yes, they don't sell a lot but they have slowly been increasing my earnings and I think they have a great site design.  Reviews are very quick and they accept more than most of the bigger sites.  I wish more buyers would switch to them from the sites that pay an appalling commission.
Title: Re: photos
Post by: sharpshot on August 22, 2012, 17:48
^^^There's several other sites that pay 50% commission.  Try GLStockImages, 52% commission and they already have stills buyers.  Pond5 is great for video but they seem like different markets.  Some of their buyers might want stills but I think it will take a long time for them to be competitive with the big microstock sites.

sure but its impossible not to imagine a good future (I guess) for them, arenīt they number 1 or 2 in terms of video? I believe we have a good chance here
I hope so but some of the microstock sites have struggled to sell footage, so I wouldn't be surprised if Pond5 struggled with stills.
Title: Re: photos
Post by: Smithore on August 23, 2012, 03:18
I noticed lower and lower footage sell on the other sites (fotolia,revostock,shutterstock,istock...) these last months, Pond 5 seems to be the leader now.
Title: Re: photos
Post by: ShadySue on August 23, 2012, 05:35
I hope so but some of the microstock sites have struggled to sell footage, so I wouldn't be surprised if Pond5 struggled with stills.
Their search is truly appalling, both from spam and from lack of any allowance for keyword phrasing. Even putting phrases into 'quotes' doesn't help.
Title: Re: photos
Post by: gillian vann on August 23, 2012, 06:22
my brain hurts.
Title: Re: photos
Post by: sharpshot on August 23, 2012, 06:32
I noticed lower and lower footage sell on the other sites (fotolia,revostock,shutterstock,istock...) these last months, Pond 5 seems to be the leader now.
My footage portfolio isn't very commercial, I've sold more on Pond5 than anywhere else but haven't uploaded much this year and my sales have slowed down.  SS has picked up a bit and others are mentioning it in their forum.  Sold one with Reveostock this month, the first in a long time.  Didn't bother with FT and removed most of my clips from istock, as 15% commission is too low for me.
Title: Re: photos
Post by: Smithore on August 24, 2012, 14:30
Just got my 600 first photos accepted and online, let see... :)
Title: Re: photos
Post by: RacePhoto on August 24, 2012, 22:50
Just got my 600 first photos accepted and online, let see... :)

Oh good, someone to test the water.

Write in a couple of months and tell me how it's going.  ;D
Title: Re: photos
Post by: Wim on August 25, 2012, 04:28
Just got my 600 first photos accepted and online, let see... :)

Review time?
I might cancel my account if this will last a month or more, I'm not looking for another Crestock experience.
If an agency decides to take new media they should make sure they can handle the load first but we will see.

Thx
Title: Re: photos
Post by: jm on August 25, 2012, 04:34
Some of batches that I uploaded do not appear in uploads at all...
Title: Re: photos
Post by: Smithore on August 25, 2012, 05:19
I've sent my pictures last week, around 7-8 days ago.
Crestock ? What is it?  ;D
Title: Re: photos
Post by: Wim on August 25, 2012, 05:22
I've sent my pictures last week, around 7-8 days ago.
Crestock ? What is it?  ;D

Alright thanks, mine are in que since aug 20 so hopefully reviewed next week.
Title: Re: photos
Post by: microstockphoto.co.uk on August 28, 2012, 13:02
didnt they partner with 123rf? if i have work on 123rf that is mirrored on p5 will that cause a conflict of interest??

I just received an email today from a curator saying: "We have found duplicates on our site of your work due to your recent submissions of images that you already distribute on our site via 123RF. Please confirm that we can take offline your entire 123rf portfolio on our site and approve subsequently your newer uploads."

So we have to decide now... Pond5 direct commission is much better but port is smaller (at least in the beginning); however, approval rate is good so far, so I will probably accept
Title: Re: photos
Post by: Wim on August 29, 2012, 05:57
Alright a batch of 5 is still in review since august 20 so I'll give these guys till next week and if they are not reviewed by then I'll cancel out.

No time to fool around  ::)
Title: Re: photos
Post by: luissantos84 on August 29, 2012, 07:44
Alright a batch of 5 is still in review since august 20 so I'll give these guys till next week and if they are not reviewed by then I'll cancel out.

No time to fool around  ::)

patience my friend, whats the hurry? they arenīt going to sell that fast, upload and leave it ;D
Title: Re: photos
Post by: Wim on August 29, 2012, 08:27
Alright a batch of 5 is still in review since august 20 so I'll give these guys till next week and if they are not reviewed by then I'll cancel out.

No time to fool around  ::)

patience my friend, whats the hurry? they arenīt going to sell that fast, upload and leave it ;D

I have already ran out of patience with micro's mate >:(
Title: Re: photos
Post by: Smithore on August 29, 2012, 14:33
They have now accepted almost 3000 of my files with only 20 rejections. Inspection seems very quick. Just wait some days more.
Title: Re: photos
Post by: HerMajesty on August 30, 2012, 04:31
Just a quick question to people who have already uploaded images. Do you get any views ?
I've upload my 120 or so images as a test, but I didn't get even a single view on ANY of the files. Is this a bug, or are those the real stats?
Title: Re: photos
Post by: Smithore on August 30, 2012, 07:00
I have also 0 views; don't know if its a glitch or not.
Title: Re: photos
Post by: Wim on August 30, 2012, 07:11
Alright, I have just received an email notification that my (test) batch has been reviewed, thanks guys.
I will continue uploading.
Title: Re: photos
Post by: cascoly on August 30, 2012, 12:57
no views yet - also reviewing seems hit or miss - i get entire batches accepted, then entire batches rejected - reason: 'poor quality AND too many similars - please resubmit the best ones'  but no indication why any particular  image is rejected
Title: Re: photos
Post by: THP Creative on August 30, 2012, 18:53
no views here either. So far acceptance has been fine.
Title: Re: photos
Post by: HerMajesty on August 31, 2012, 00:00
Just had my first sale @ Pond5, but still no frickin views! ;D
Not even for the one that got sold, so definitely a bug.
Title: Re: photos
Post by: ouchie on September 09, 2012, 22:04
So... if my pics are already up on P5 via 123rf.
I send P5 info to cancel 123rf becuse i will upload my pics myself, in order to get the better commish (1/2).
do i then realy have to upload all my pics?
Im thinking they are there already, why do i need to upload again?
Title: Re: photos
Post by: THP Creative on September 09, 2012, 22:28
So... if my pics are already up on P5 via 123rf.
I send P5 info to cancel 123rf becuse i will upload my pics myself, in order to get the better commish (1/2).
do i then realy have to upload all my pics?
Im thinking they are there already, why do i need to upload again?

They won't actually be there. Through the magic of API's the will be dragging in content from 123RF, rather than actually having your content stored the same way that they would if you uploaded it directly.
Title: Re: photos
Post by: THP Creative on September 09, 2012, 22:31
in terms of views, 1 file out of over 1600 has some views now. No sales yet though :(
Title: Re: photos
Post by: ouchie on September 10, 2012, 09:01
Ahh, of course api...thank you microstock man!