Author Topic: Pond 5 Sales & Discounting (Read 14243 times)

Milleflore · « **on:** July 18, 2022, 01:18 »

Today I sold 3 clips on P5, and 2 of them were discounted by over 50%. I checked and none of those clips are available as subscriptions when you filter as Subscriptions in the search under Collections. So I am assuming it cannot be that.

I know that P5 reserves the right to lower pricing for non-exclusive contributors if they believe its too high for that type of asset, but when I checked the listed price they are listed as $57.00, not $26.00. See below.

I am interested in what other P5 contributors are experiencing with their sales there, after the SS takeover, plus it might be a good opportunity to collect some collective info here. Plus any thoughts.

Stockmaan · « **Reply #1 on:** July 18, 2022, 04:09 »

I say goodbye to them.

Evaristo tenscadisto · « **Reply #2 on:** July 18, 2022, 04:39 »

Quote from: Annie on July 18, 2022, 01:18

Today I sold 3 clips on P5, and 2 of them were discounted by over 50%. I checked and none of those clips are available as subscriptions when you filter as Subscriptions in the search under Collections. So I am assuming it cannot be that.

I know that P5 reserves the right to lower pricing for non-exclusive contributors if they believe its too high for that type of asset, but when I checked the listed price they are listed as $57.00, not $26.00.

Hi Annie, maybe it could be other thing....
if your content is being sold in other marketplace by less P5 will match same price. This was introduced by p5 in 2018/2019 contributor agreement. However they change a little bit lately (some months before the SSTK merge).

If you go to section 3. Pricing and Your Share of Net License Revenue, article v in contributor Agreement (link : https://www.pond5.com/legal/contributor)

"notwithstanding anything to the contrary provided in this Section 3.a., you shall not set the price for an item of Content that is higher than the lowest price for which the same (or substantially the same) Content item is offered by or on any other media marketplace, agency or other redistribution arrangement (each an "Other Marketplace"), and if we discover that the Content item is offered at a lower price by or on any Other Marketplace, we may lower the price in our marketplace to match or beat that price."

Milleflore · « **Reply #3 on:** July 18, 2022, 05:46 »

Quote from: Evaristo tenscadisto on July 18, 2022, 04:39

Quote from: Annie on July 18, 2022, 01:18
Today I sold 3 clips on P5, and 2 of them were discounted by over 50%. I checked and none of those clips are available as subscriptions when you filter as Subscriptions in the search under Collections. So I am assuming it cannot be that.

I know that P5 reserves the right to lower pricing for non-exclusive contributors if they believe its too high for that type of asset, but when I checked the listed price they are listed as $57.00, not $26.00.

Hi Annie, maybe it could be other thing....
if your content is being sold in other marketplace by less P5 will match same price. This was introduced by p5 in 2018/2019 contributor agreement. However they change a little bit lately (some months before the SSTK merge).

If you go to section 3. Pricing and Your Share of Net License Revenue, article v in contributor Agreement (link : https://www.pond5.com/legal/contributor)

"notwithstanding anything to the contrary provided in this Section 3.a., you shall not set the price for an item of Content that is higher than the lowest price for which the same (or substantially the same) Content item is offered by or on any other media marketplace, agency or other redistribution arrangement (each an "Other Marketplace"), and if we discover that the Content item is offered at a lower price by or on any Other Marketplace, we may lower the price in our marketplace to match or beat that price."

Thanks Evaristo.

I closed my footage port on SS a couple of weeks ago, so the only other place they are available is on AS.

blvdone · « **Reply #4 on:** July 18, 2022, 06:20 »

It's not a discount when your "List Price" and "NLR' are the same price.

Mantis · « **Reply #5 on:** July 18, 2022, 07:56 »

You're doing better than me. I am getting $6 royalties and seriously high discounts. It really doesn't matter how you price your clips. Their agreed pricing with clients usurps the price you put in. Sure, there are occasions you will get a normal sale, but I haven't seen one for me in quite some time. My income with P5 is WAY down for 2022, but not in volume, just in royalties.

Zero Talent · « **Reply #6 on:** July 18, 2022, 09:04 »

In my case, I see discounts of up to 30%. See below.

Besides these NLR discounts, I can also see that the listed prices are adjusted down most of the time e.g ($120 -> $102), but in some cases, they are also higher than what I asked for ($100 -> $119).

Of course, you know better, but aren't your listed prices a bit low, Annie ($26 for HD)? Is there a strategy there?

Camillo · « **Reply #7 on:** July 18, 2022, 11:51 »

Quote from: Annie on July 18, 2022, 01:18

Today I sold 3 clips on P5, and 2 of them were discounted by over 50%. I checked and none of those clips are available as subscriptions when you filter as Subscriptions in the search under Collections. So I am assuming it cannot be that.

I know that P5 reserves the right to lower pricing for non-exclusive contributors if they believe its too high for that type of asset, but when I checked the listed price they are listed as $57.00, not $26.00. See below.

I am interested in what other P5 contributors are experiencing with their sales there, after the SS takeover, plus it might be a good opportunity to collect some collective info here. Plus any thoughts.

You mean you guys are making sales?

Milleflore · « **Reply #8 on:** July 18, 2022, 13:34 »

Quote from: Zero Talent on July 18, 2022, 09:04

In my case, I see discounts of up to 30%. See below.

Besides these NLR discounts, I can also see that the listed prices are adjusted down most of the time e.g ($120 -> $102), but in some cases, they are also higher than what I asked for ($100 -> $119).

Of course, you know better, but aren't your listed prices a bit low, Annie ($26 for HD)? Is there a strategy there?

That's not my listed price, Zero. That's why I am confused.

I usually start my prices at around $60 to $70 for HD (double that for 4k), and then sometimes I notice P5 marks that down a bit. At the moment they are both 'listed' as $57.00 (refer my second attachment in my opening post), which is what P5 must have marked them down to.

So where did the $26 come from? They are not included in P5's videos available for subscriptions. And they clearly state the sales are for HD resolution.

So, is this some kind of new discounting or subs packs that they are offering?

...

Regarding the subscriptions, this is probably the only way I can show everyone. See attached. For the first search where I have blocked out the full search term and video thumbnails, 6 videos appear, they are all mine (different layouts for that particular stop motion theme). The last clip on this search was one of the ones that sold today for $26.

However, see my second attachment, if you click on the subscription filter, none of them appear. So they shouldn't be selling for subs prices (if that is what it is)

Pacesetter · « **Reply #9 on:** July 19, 2022, 02:14 »

Quote from: Annie on July 18, 2022, 05:46

Quote from: Evaristo tenscadisto on July 18, 2022, 04:39
Quote from: Annie on July 18, 2022, 01:18
Today I sold 3 clips on P5, and 2 of them were discounted by over 50%. I checked and none of those clips are available as subscriptions when you filter as Subscriptions in the search under Collections. So I am assuming it cannot be that.

I know that P5 reserves the right to lower pricing for non-exclusive contributors if they believe its too high for that type of asset, but when I checked the listed price they are listed as $57.00, not $26.00.

Hi Annie, maybe it could be other thing....
if your content is being sold in other marketplace by less P5 will match same price. This was introduced by p5 in 2018/2019 contributor agreement. However they change a little bit lately (some months before the SSTK merge).

If you go to section 3. Pricing and Your Share of Net License Revenue, article v in contributor Agreement (link : https://www.pond5.com/legal/contributor)

"notwithstanding anything to the contrary provided in this Section 3.a., you shall not set the price for an item of Content that is higher than the lowest price for which the same (or substantially the same) Content item is offered by or on any other media marketplace, agency or other redistribution arrangement (each an "Other Marketplace"), and if we discover that the Content item is offered at a lower price by or on any Other Marketplace, we may lower the price in our marketplace to match or beat that price."

Thanks Evaristo.

I closed my footage port on SS a couple of weeks ago, so the only other place they are available is on AS.

Annie, I'm quite surprised you turned off your footage port on Shutterstock. You feel the commission's are no longer acceptable?

Wilm · « **Reply #10 on:** July 19, 2022, 03:57 »

Quote from: Pacesetter on July 19, 2022, 02:14

Quote from: Annie on July 18, 2022, 05:46
Quote from: Evaristo tenscadisto on July 18, 2022, 04:39
Quote from: Annie on July 18, 2022, 01:18
Today I sold 3 clips on P5, and 2 of them were discounted by over 50%. I checked and none of those clips are available as subscriptions when you filter as Subscriptions in the search under Collections. So I am assuming it cannot be that.

I know that P5 reserves the right to lower pricing for non-exclusive contributors if they believe its too high for that type of asset, but when I checked the listed price they are listed as $57.00, not $26.00.

Hi Annie, maybe it could be other thing....
if your content is being sold in other marketplace by less P5 will match same price. This was introduced by p5 in 2018/2019 contributor agreement. However they change a little bit lately (some months before the SSTK merge).

If you go to section 3. Pricing and Your Share of Net License Revenue, article v in contributor Agreement (link : https://www.pond5.com/legal/contributor)

"notwithstanding anything to the contrary provided in this Section 3.a., you shall not set the price for an item of Content that is higher than the lowest price for which the same (or substantially the same) Content item is offered by or on any other media marketplace, agency or other redistribution arrangement (each an "Other Marketplace"), and if we discover that the Content item is offered at a lower price by or on any Other Marketplace, we may lower the price in our marketplace to match or beat that price."

Thanks Evaristo.

I closed my footage port on SS a couple of weeks ago, so the only other place they are available is on AS.

Annie, I'm quite surprised you turned off your footage port on Shutterstock. You feel the commission's are no longer acceptable?

Yes, I'm surprised, too!

Milleflore · « **Reply #11 on:** July 19, 2022, 05:01 »

@pacesetter, @wilm. Yes, for now, but its part of a longer term plan, which will incorporate moving some of my more 'valuable' videos that do better on P5, to stop SS from selling them off too cheaply. Clips such as my green screens and stop motions do much better on P5. And I cringe every time I see SS or AS sell them off too cheaply.

My July to August video sales are always traditional low with less buyers around, so its a good time to start moving things around. Its going to take a while because there are several hundred of them. SS & AS (and P5 standard account) can do what they like with the other portion of my 3,000+ files.

Long term, I'm going to put these files on my P5 exclusive account, which I haven't used for a while. As long as SS doesn't mess around with the P5 Exclusives agreement, I should be OK. And I can price them according to what I want.

I've been wanting to do this for awhile, but reading the P5 agreement that Evaristo linked above, confirmed this for me:

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notwithstanding anything to the contrary provided in this Section 3.a., you shall not set the price for an item of Content that is higher than the lowest price for which the same (or substantially the same) Content item is offered by or on any other media marketplace, agency or other redistribution arrangement (each an "Other Marketplace"), and if we discover that the Content item is offered at a lower price by or on any Other Marketplace, we may lower the price in our marketplace to match or beat that price.

With exclusive files, you can avoid that problem. And with the files that I have had on P5 Exclusive in the past, P5 never changed my prices - plus you get 60% (fingers crossed, it doesn't change).

My stop motions are very good money earners - especially on P5. They are unique, good earners & the holiday ones are very popular especially during the holiday season (Halloween through to Easter), plus I invested a lot of time and props into producing them.

https://www.milleflore.com/446832331

I found one guy on P5 copying some of them, but he only did the easy ones. lol

Pacesetter · « **Reply #12 on:** July 19, 2022, 06:50 »

Sounds like a good plan, Annie.

cobalt · « **Reply #13 on:** July 19, 2022, 07:12 »

@annie I sincerly wish you the best of success.

I also have an empty exclusive account and am considering to fill it with what I believe deserves a better price and will probably not sell in high volume.

However, I really wonder for how long exclusive accounts with 60% and where you can choose your price will continue to exist.

Maybe we get lucky and they leave us be for a few years at least.

But I will only use it with new content and I will continue to spread files everywhere.

Ideally no agency/marketplace is more than 20% of my income. So if a disaster happens, I can easily go on.

Milleflore · « **Reply #14 on:** July 19, 2022, 07:35 »

Quote from: cobalt on July 19, 2022, 07:12

@annie I sincerly wish you the best of success.

I also have an empty exclusive account and am considering to fill it with what I believe deserves a better price and will probably not sell in high volume.

However, I really wonder for how long exclusive accounts with 60% and where you can choose your price will continue to exist.

Maybe we get lucky and they leave us be for a few years at least.

But I will only use it with new content and I will continue to spread files everywhere.

Ideally no agency/marketplace is more than 20% of my income. So if a disaster happens, I can easily go on.

Thanks Jasmin.

I am just so sick and tired of not being in control of my own video pricing. Some of it I understand, but with other parts of my work, I just refuse to buy into this underpricing-to-sell-more concept that some of these agencies are getting into. It just doesn't work.

What about Stocksy? Wouldn't that be a good place to put your exclusive work?

...

Thanks @Pace !

Zero Talent · « **Reply #15 on:** July 19, 2022, 08:47 »

I just got a couple of sales both sold for more than I asked for:

1st one, 4K: asked for $100, listed for $102, sold for $161,6
2nd one, HD: asked for $50, listed for $50, sold for $58,33

Now, I'm going to raise the asked prices for both.

cobalt · « **Reply #16 on:** July 19, 2022, 13:44 »

@annie it is a fantastic place for very high end content, especially photos.

But most of what I am doing right now does not have high enough quality.

I have made very good sales in both video and photos in the last years with the „authentic social media“ type content. I.e. looks like it was done by amateurs, but actually really done with a good eye to detail.

The content is often visually ugly, but it really sells to all the people that need content that can blend in without having the vibe of „I was shot by an award winning artist“.

Stocksy is an editor driven collection, it is not a self selling platform where I can do whatever I want.

But that is why it has this very beautiful look.

My other problem is when I work with other people, they are all not on stocksy, so the content can only be non exclusive.

I do want to work on my skills and hope to finally find a niche I can supply them with.

But especially for video I want to very methodically work on what is simply missing and a lot of that content cannot have any kind of „artsy“ vibe to get sales.

So I really want to have a webstore that is just mine, where I don‘t have to consider what an editor might think.

The original pond5 was just perfect

But I believe in a market economy. If Shutterstock ruins the place, the content will go elsewhere and eventually the clients will follow.

It is very frustrating that these platform owners favor very short term thinking, but I guess in a bonus driven management system, that is the price you pay.

Longterm companies are often a family business or at least have an owner who wants to stay.

Milleflore · « **Reply #17 on:** July 19, 2022, 14:09 »

Quote from: Zero Talent on July 19, 2022, 08:47

I just got a couple of sales both sold for more than I asked for:

1st one, 4K: asked for $100, listed for $102, sold for $161,6
2nd one, HD: asked for $50, listed for $50, sold for $58,33

Now, I'm going to raise the asked prices for both.

(Oh, to have your port. Sigh!)

Well done. Yes, keep raising those prices! Show them it can be done.

Milleflore · « **Reply #18 on:** July 19, 2022, 14:17 »

Quote from: cobalt on July 19, 2022, 13:44

@annie it is a fantastic place for very high end content, especially photos.

But most of what I am doing right now does not have high enough quality.

I have made very good sales in both video and photos in the last years with the „authentic social media“ type content. I.e. looks like it was done by amateurs, but actually really done with a good eye to detail.

The content is often visually ugly, but it really sells to all the people that need content that can blend in without having the vibe of „I was shot by an award winning artist“.

Stocksy is an editor driven collection, it is not a self selling platform where I can do whatever I want.

But that is why it has this very beautiful look.

My other problem is when I work with other people, they are all not on stocksy, so the content can only be non exclusive.

I do want to work on my skills and hope to finally find a niche I can supply them with.

But especially for video I want to very methodically work on what is simply missing and a lot of that content cannot have any kind of „artsy“ vibe to get sales.

So I really want to have a webstore that is just mine, where I don‘t have to consider what an editor might think.

The original pond5 was just perfect

But I believe in a market economy. If Shutterstock ruins the place, the content will go elsewhere and eventually the clients will follow.

It is very frustrating that these platform owners favor very short term thinking, but I guess in a bonus driven management system, that is the price you pay.

Longterm companies are often a family business or at least have an owner who wants to stay.

Thanks for that explanation.

I like that 'authentic' alternative look of places like Stocksy. Super cool and very clever.

Yes, I have to get a webstore. My website is getting a bit long in the tooth.

cobalt · « **Reply #19 on:** July 19, 2022, 14:34 »

Stocksy is absolutely fantastic.

And especially for lgbt content and a lot of political lifestyle I think they have by far the best collection. They also have authentic content with real people, but the quality is so outstanding it again has the „award winning artist vibe“. Very high end, very well produced.

But there is a huge world of content depicting the real world, in all its ugliness, that is missing from most agencies. I think part of the reason is that they are run by people who have had so many years of visual art training, that they cannot just drop the artsy filter and the instinct to beautify the world around them.

If I put on my buyers hat, this is the content I would be interested to buy, or at least I would have wanted to buy in my old business life.

Authentic reality content, real world ugliness, but shot with a great attention to usefulness.

Eyeem has a ton of that stuff, but they never presented it properly. IMO they were literally sitting on a gold mine, but only marketed the artsy images.

But „artsy“ is not rare. Done on the level of stocksy, yes, that is special.

But allover the net are people doing artsy and often giving them away for free. Everybody loves to do art.

Nobody wants to document reality in a useful way.

Maybe I should be grateful.

ETA:

I guess I should start my own label - Ugly real world stock-

😂

leox83 · « **Reply #20 on:** July 19, 2022, 16:24 »

I am exclusive on Pond5. Yesterday i had 2 sales.

1. List price 119 usd, my share 13 usd
2. List price 109 usd, my share 13 usd

License type is called: enterprise

I dont want to hear contributor agreement shits from anyone, i will try to get out of pond5 and its partners immediately.

Milleflore · « **Reply #21 on:** July 19, 2022, 17:16 »

Quote from: leox83 on July 19, 2022, 16:24

I am exclusive on Pond5. Yesterday i had 2 sales.

1. List price 119 usd, my share 13 usd
2. List price 109 usd, my share 13 usd

License type is called: enterprise

I dont want to hear contributor agreement shits from anyone, i will try to get out of pond5 and its partners immediately.

Oh god, that's terrible. :-(

Thank you so much for that feedback.

Milleflore · « **Reply #22 on:** July 20, 2022, 00:17 »

Another $10.40 commission today on another stop motion clip, that is actually listed as $57.00 next to the video.

HD $26 Individual License 20200505 $26 $10.40

cobalt · « **Reply #23 on:** July 20, 2022, 01:47 »

Quote from: leox83 on July 19, 2022, 16:24

I am exclusive on Pond5. Yesterday i had 2 sales.

1. List price 119 usd, my share 13 usd
2. List price 109 usd, my share 13 usd

License type is called: enterprise

I dont want to hear contributor agreement shits from anyone, i will try to get out of pond5 and its partners immediately.

So basically producers have lost control over pricing.

That was the most important, unique factor of pond5.

A webstore where you control the price.

thx9000 · « **Reply #24 on:** July 20, 2022, 02:30 »

It has been discussed over and over again. Pond5 sets different prices for different markets/countries. Use a proxy and see that for yourself. Nothing to do with discounts. People choose to believe in the strangest conspiracies even when the explanation is right before their eyes. Not defending pond5 btw, what they do is highly questionable.

Milleflore · « **Reply #25 on:** July 20, 2022, 23:38 »

Quote from: thx9000 on July 20, 2022, 02:30

It has been discussed over and over again. Pond5 sets different prices for different markets/countries. Use a proxy and see that for yourself. Nothing to do with discounts. People choose to believe in the strangest conspiracies even when the explanation is right before their eyes. Not defending pond5 btw, what they do is highly questionable.

So, are you saying that should explain such a large difference between my list price of $57.00 USD (shown against the video) vs their's (on the sales report) at $26.00? That's a lot.

Anyway, I just got 3 more. That makes 6 in the last 3 days.

I am going to write to them.

Zero Talent · « **Reply #26 on:** July 21, 2022, 20:14 »

Another HD example sold today:
asked $79, listed $79 (but shown as $87.5 under the finance tab), sold for $102.5

Milleflore · « **Reply #27 on:** July 22, 2022, 14:40 »

I wrote to P5 about my situation above and yes, THX9000 was absolutely correct. Here is part of P5's response:

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Depending on the market prices of each region, the price shown to a buyer might be different than to another buyer from a different country.

As an example, the --HD version of < title of my video > -- costs at the moment $30 when it's purchased from Mexico, for example and it shows a price of $75 when the buyer is from the USA.

The goal here is to offer the optimal price in our marketplace for each country (or region), in order to increase the sales and make the most revenue for our artists. Please note this only applies to non-exclusive footage in our marketplace.

Important to note, it only applies to non-exclusive footage.

All else aside, I was very impressed with P5's superfast reply and also in helping me with another matter.

Pacesetter · « **Reply #28 on:** July 22, 2022, 20:20 »

Been disappointed with Pond5 with no sales for the month despite it having more than 100 videos uploaded (ie: compared to the next agency which has had 20 video sales so far this month).

Noticed a spike in views on Pond5 yesterday, logged in this morning and nothing. But later got the email to show the following sale. Asking price for HD = $79.00, listed price = $57.00, selling price = $118.98, commission = $47.59.

cobalt · « **Reply #29 on:** July 22, 2022, 21:21 »

@annie,

so I learned something important, I had no idea that this is how it worked.

I have always loved the pond5 support, they are fantastic.

Hope SS allows their team and their forum to survive. And that artists can continue to discuss freely without having to fear instant port delete.

If they fully merge, they should let pond5 handle community and support.

aitor · « **Reply #30 on:** August 03, 2022, 07:07 »

The asking price doesn't matter anymore on pond5. I closed my account and now I'm looking for an alternative, any ideas? Thank you.

derby · « **Reply #31 on:** August 03, 2022, 09:03 »

The strangest thing I see on P5 is that statistics with views are completely disconnected from sales: I see in last months really good sales, also with high prices, and poor months with maybe 10% of usual sales.
But the statistics seems very steady.
I know that fluctuation is normal, and also I'm not talking about large number of sales, I have about twenty clips sales for months. BTW, the fluctuation is great and it has no link at all with view statistics.

Findura · « **Reply #32 on:** September 16, 2022, 07:21 »

I have had 10 4k video sales so far this year with my non-exclusive portfolio.
Only one 4k sale was billed correctly (individual license).
Seven 4k sales were sold at a price of $28 instead of $50 with individual license.
One 4k sale were sold at a price of $14 instead of $50 with LLP license.

And one 4k video was sold with a premium license, for which the customer would normally have had to pay $50 + $299.
P5 sold the video for list price $20. NLR Price : $68. And I got $27,20 instead of $139,60.

Mantis · « **Reply #33 on:** September 16, 2022, 07:53 »

Quote from: Findura on September 16, 2022, 07:21

I have had 10 4k video sales so far this year with my non-exclusive portfolio.
Only one 4k sale was billed correctly (individual license).
Seven 4k sales were sold at a price of $28 instead of $50 with individual license.
One 4k sale were sold at a price of $14 instead of $50 with LLP license.

And one 4k video was sold with a premium license, for which the customer would normally have had to pay $50 + $299.
P5 sold the video for list price $20. NLR Price : $68. And I got $27,20 instead of $139,60.

Had similar experiences and their response was that they have the flexibility to negotiate prices with customers, usually corporate ones. So while we can set our own prices, it's not too often I see the actual price I listed used. Hell, I had a sale last week where I made like $6 for a HD listed at $79 (prob sub)

stoker2014 · « **Reply #34 on:** September 16, 2022, 08:05 »

Has everyone's revenue from subscription video sales dropped to 0?

leox83 · « **Reply #35 on:** September 18, 2022, 04:14 »

i removed most of my portfolio from Pond5, and looking for another agency. Pond5 is not trustable anymore...

Noedelhap · « **Reply #36 on:** October 01, 2022, 07:49 »

A new low on Pond5: a video listed as $79 gets sold for $7.74....Netting me $3.10

What a joke.

Findura · « **Reply #37 on:** October 02, 2022, 07:59 »

Subscription prices have probably gone down in september.
P5 exclusive video (subs) RPD : $3.86
P5 non-exclusive video (subs) RPD : $4.61

This is brand new. The subs RPD has never been less than $10 on my non-exclusive account.
And on my exclusive account, the subs RPD has been $15 on average.

I will still watch this this year and if it stays like this, then next year I will delete my P5 subscriptions.

Officially, no such massive price cuts are seen on the P5 site. What's going on there?

Mantis · « **Reply #38 on:** October 03, 2022, 06:31 »

What you are seeing is the continued erosion of stock. Anyone can do all the analysis of a stock site they want but the bottom line is that P5 is doing what they do to remain competitive. And the contributor, as usual, is the recipient of the lower royalties. It's only going to get worse. I see videos I shot that I have prices at $200 (because they are unique) sell where I get $5. When I write P5 their answer is that they have the power to negotiate 'corporate packs' and special 'high volume' deals. This is irrespective of subs per se, rather to say that it really doesn't matter how you price your assets, P5 has the ultimate say. I still get occasional "retail" sales, but not often.

stoker2014 · « **Reply #39 on:** October 06, 2022, 14:26 »

What's up with their idea of opening a Hyperstock website? Why is it still not there. I'm interested in uploading my video there.

ch000 · « **Reply #40 on:** October 09, 2022, 06:58 »

Everytime I see a sale there's always some kind of discount involved.

Evaristo tenscadisto · « **Reply #41 on:** October 11, 2022, 12:09 »

Quote from: stoker2014 on October 06, 2022, 14:26

What's up with their idea of opening a Hyperstock website? Why is it still not there. I'm interested in uploading my video there.

didn't you hear? the website has been shut down. It was on the air for a week i think.

Featuring unlimited downloads for a small fee... specially in the current days where people are training ai models. Will you be interest ? giving all of your work of years for 30/50 euros? Then after training my models or download all your work for all kind of use will you be still in business?

Due to the high negative feedback from contributors including myself it was closed. Best thing they did and thanks to Pond5 for listening to their contributors.

stoker2014 · « **Reply #42 on:** October 11, 2022, 13:44 »

Evaristo tenscadisto, I have a different opinion. I upload my video to similar sites and my income is normal.

ch000 · « **Reply #43 on:** October 13, 2022, 19:52 »

Just had a video sell for $26 despite me setting the price at $89, so my earnings were $10.40. The license was called "Enterprise Custom License 20180801". I wonder what's the point being able to set your own price when it rarely ever sells for it anyway.

StockGuy101 · « **Reply #44 on:** October 15, 2022, 18:28 »

My new strategy is to not do too much work or spend too much money (if any) to get new shots. So, I will not be lugging my high quality DSLR-style camera out very often, but rather, I'll be shooting more on my iPhone. Mostly things I come across naturally. I won't be doing too much planning going forward.

If buyers want to pay little-to-nothing, they'll be getting iPhone footage from me. And if those clips don't get approved by the agencies, I won't fret over it.

stoker2014 · « **Reply #45 on:** October 16, 2022, 03:32 »

Quote from: ch000 on October 13, 2022, 19:52

Just had a video sell for $26 despite me setting the price at $89, so my earnings were $10.40. The license was called "Enterprise Custom License 20180801". I wonder what's the point being able to set your own price when it rarely ever sells for it anyway.

Depending on which country you bought it. Pond has different prices for different countries.

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