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dragonblade:
Recently, I submitted some super 8 footage to Pond 5 and got a rather surprising rejection reason. They claim that they cannot accept this clip because of the visible black bars on the sides and that I should resubmit it with it's native dimensions. Well of course it has black bars on the sides - it's super 8 film footage. As most people know, super 8 has a 4:3 aspect ratio and so there will be black bars on the left and right when the footage is displayed on a 16:9 screen. That can't be helped.

And yes, obviously it has the native dimensions - super 8 cameras expose a 4:3 frame (unless the gate has been modified.)

I have also submitted another super 8 clip in the past and there were no issues accepting that one despite the 4:3 aspect ratio. And a search on P5 will reveal many 4:3 clips.

I wonder if they're developing a bias against 4:3 clips.

Astrantia:
Theres a field where you can post explanations for the reviewer at the end of the submit page- have you tried to explain?

dragonblade:

--- Quote from: Astrantia on February 06, 2021, 05:01 ---Theres a field where you can post explanations for the reviewer at the end of the submit page- have you tried to explain?

--- End quote ---

Ah I didn't realise that was the case. Then again, it's clearly stated in the description that the footage is super 8 so that should have been a clue. I would have thought a decent number of reviewers would have realised that super 8 is 4:3.

Regardless, I submit my footage with Stocksubmitter. I'll have to check if there's a way to leave reviewers a note with that program.

dragonblade:
I submitted the same clip again and it was flagged by their duplicate detector. I sent P5 an e-mail and in their reply, they recommended that I submit the clip as a 4:3 file instead of 4:3 inside of a 16:9 file. So I selected 4:3 with an NLE program and exported it as  3840 x 2880. When I view the thumbnail of the clip, there are no more black bars on the left and right. Though now there are thick black bars on the top and bottom. I wasn't expecting to see those.

Uncle Pete:

--- Quote from: dragonblade on March 04, 2021, 01:09 ---I submitted the same clip again and it was flagged by their duplicate detector. I sent P5 an e-mail and in their reply, they recommended that I submit the clip as a 4:3 file instead of 4:3 inside of a 16:9 file. So I selected 4:3 with an NLE program and exported it as  3840 x 2880. When I view the thumbnail of the clip, there are no more black bars on the left and right. Though now there are thick black bars on the top and bottom. I wasn't expecting to see those.

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It's a uphill battle against the wind and storm sometimes, isn't it? Good luck with that formatting. Keep coming back to inform us, I'm following with interest, as I have some old 16mm film I'm considering having converted. I want to know how to have it formatted the way P5 wants it.

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