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« Reply #100 on: October 14, 2014, 01:41 »
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FAA is a lemon for me. I've sold 4 prints in two years and 0 phone cases. Compared to zazzle where in the same time I've sold dozens of prints, 150+ phone cases and 1500+ other products. I will not subscribe again because I think that's all FAA is now, a subscription collecting site that doesn't sell much.


ShadySue

  • There is a crack in everything
« Reply #101 on: October 14, 2014, 06:22 »
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In my weekly update email, one of the upcoming local events is "40 minutes with a mystic" 200 miles away. They must be desperately taking in adverts from all comers now.

« Reply #102 on: October 14, 2014, 06:48 »
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I've made almost double the membership fee this year, so that's OK. I don't make any effort there, just occasionally upload stuff. I made a few hundred bucks in both 2012 and last year.  If it actually starts costing me money then I'll probably drop it after a year or two.

« Reply #103 on: October 14, 2014, 09:02 »
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I renewed by default in March and not a single sale. They are dying.

Nic99

« Reply #104 on: October 14, 2014, 10:04 »
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They arent really. still selling well there.

ShadySue

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« Reply #105 on: October 14, 2014, 10:10 »
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They arent really. still selling well there.
How much promotion work are you doing via social media, blog, website, etc.?
I'm sure artists with a personal following who are mostly using them for realisation can do well.
Just out of curiosity, how competitive are their US prices (with other providers in the US)?

Nic99

« Reply #106 on: October 14, 2014, 12:14 »
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I use their automated twitter and facebook announcements, thats it.

« Reply #107 on: October 14, 2014, 13:51 »
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I have sales - this month is actually pretty good, although you can't count on it to be consistent. But then it's not microstock, so it is to be expected.  I have only carefully selected and processed images there, not my entire portfolio.... http://elena-elisseeva.artistwebsites.com/

Nic99

« Reply #108 on: October 14, 2014, 14:05 »
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disagreeing with me having sales on faa. lol. what a silly forum. dont envy, shoot better. its not my fault you dont have sales.

« Reply #109 on: October 14, 2014, 16:04 »
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I have sold well there since the first month 20 months ago. I never had a sale of prints on any other POD.

« Reply #110 on: October 14, 2014, 16:26 »
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Joined FAA in January 2014. So far, I have earned twice as much there compared to SS this year. But my paintings sell better than my photographs there.

steheap

  • Author of best selling "Get Started in Stock"

« Reply #111 on: October 16, 2014, 13:02 »
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As the original poster, I thought I should update my experience as well. I've sold four prints this year in June, August, September and now October. Last year, it was definitely better towards the end of the year. I've just updated my blog with the latest sales.

Steve
http://www.backyardsilver.com/2014/10/fine-art-america-still-good/

« Reply #112 on: October 17, 2014, 11:42 »
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I renewed by default in March and not a single sale. They are dying.

Maybe you haven't done the minimum needed to get your work seen. Maybe your subject matter is overdone. Maybe your quality is poor. Maybe you just have boring work.
The site has steady growth. It is certainly not dying. You just can't compete.

« Reply #113 on: October 17, 2014, 13:11 »
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I renewed by default in March and not a single sale. They are dying.

Maybe you haven't done the minimum needed to get your work seen. Maybe your subject matter is overdone. Maybe your quality is poor. Maybe you just have boring work.
The site has steady growth. It is certainly not dying. You just can't compete.

What I don't do, I'll admit, is promote myself in any way. When I started there I got very nice sales. This year I haven't had any. Here is a sample of the kind of work I have there. It sells quite well through other outlets besides micro stock, just not at FAA. There are a lot of people here who have had the same experience so you are making a broad brush statement that those people can't compete, either.  You "SAY" you're doing well but it's just words. If you are, then congrats you are doing something right. I will say that I don't do any "marketing" on FAA, but that aside (which is probably my kiss of death) I would put my work up against yours any day. You have an arrogant tone, which speaks a lot about your character. I am sure you have a few nice images so why don't you post a few like me?



 


Lightrecorder

« Reply #114 on: October 19, 2014, 13:23 »
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I could see the first two images hanging on my wall, for the last two images I dont see it. But thats just personal taste and opinion.

« Reply #115 on: October 19, 2014, 14:20 »
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I could see the first two images hanging on my wall, for the last two images I dont see it. But thats just personal taste and opinion.

You're right. Everyone has their own taste. I will say that the most popular one of the four above is the walking octopus, so that totally supports what you are saying. But I have hundreds of shots both topside and underwater from around the world on FAA. The selling factor I am certain is my lack of marketing/promotional efforts on FAA, not the images. Here's a few more popular shots, they just don't sell on FAA. I will also go as far as saying that there are solid, competitive images to mine on FAA, just not tons of them so I believe there's room for this niche.

« Reply #116 on: October 19, 2014, 16:08 »
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I'm on FAA too and while I do get a sale once in a while, the intervals are getting longer.   If you pay attention to what's going on at FAA (what's being announced, anyway) it's obvious that the guy is increasingly focusing on promoting the proven sellers via search placement, "Collections" and "Subjects".  Take a look at some of the "Collections" - most contain the work of only one contributor.   

Watch for more Collections to appear over time, until all the popular subjects are covered.  Increasingly, buyers will be looking for a Collection on the subject they think they want, rather than spending time searching by keyword.

« Reply #117 on: October 19, 2014, 17:56 »
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I'm on FAA too and while I do get a sale once in a while, the intervals are getting longer.   If you pay attention to what's going on at FAA (what's being announced, anyway) it's obvious that the guy is increasingly focusing on promoting the proven sellers via search placement, "Collections" and "Subjects".  Take a look at some of the "Collections" - most contain the work of only one contributor.   

Watch for more Collections to appear over time, until all the popular subjects are covered.  Increasingly, buyers will be looking for a Collection on the subject they think they want, rather than spending time searching by keyword.

Great feedback, stockastic.

« Reply #118 on: October 19, 2014, 19:30 »
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I agree that the sales are decreasing the second half of 2014, although I had fantastic experience in the first half.

I don't do any self promotions, no facebook, no blog, no nothing.

« Reply #119 on: October 19, 2014, 23:31 »
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I can foresee a lot of sub non renewals.

U11


« Reply #120 on: October 20, 2014, 09:11 »
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the name of the topic is misleading can it be renamed (or at least year 2013 added)

« Reply #121 on: October 20, 2014, 22:03 »
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Its not about having nice pictures.  Its about:

 1.  Getting people to see them.  There is plenty of amazing stuff on FAA that no one ever sees because its not promoted and marketed.

2. Having what they want.  Its a wall art site.  People are looking for something that they can hang on their wall and look at for years. 

I've seen stock photos targeted at business (plumber, dentist) sell.  Things people might buy to put in the lobby or waiting room of their business.

Lightrecorder

« Reply #122 on: October 21, 2014, 05:24 »
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Love your work Mantis, always have, so I am not criticizing your work. Interesting that the most popular of them 4 is the one I would not pick. My pick was just based with those images in mind as wall art.

« Reply #123 on: October 21, 2014, 07:29 »
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Its not about having nice pictures.  Its about:

 1.  Getting people to see them.  There is plenty of amazing stuff on FAA that no one ever sees because its not promoted and marketed.

2. Having what they want.  Its a wall art site.  People are looking for something that they can hang on their wall and look at for years. 

I've seen stock photos targeted at business (plumber, dentist) sell.  Things people might buy to put in the lobby or waiting room of their business.

I totally agree with you. It's obviously more than nice pictures. My frustration (and others) is that for me last year I made $600-$700 doing nothing. That was, as I recall, 6 images. This year, nada with my same do nothing marketing effort. That's the confusion for me. Stochastic made a good point, too.

« Reply #124 on: October 22, 2014, 06:54 »
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I renewed by default in March and not a single sale. They are dying.

Maybe you haven't done the minimum needed to get your work seen. Maybe your subject matter is overdone. Maybe your quality is poor. Maybe you just have boring work.
The site has steady growth. It is certainly not dying. You just can't compete.

What I don't do, I'll admit, is promote myself in any way. When I started there I got very nice sales. This year I haven't had any. Here is a sample of the kind of work I have there. It sells quite well through other outlets besides micro stock, just not at FAA. There are a lot of people here who have had the same experience so you are making a broad brush statement that those people can't compete, either.  You "SAY" you're doing well but it's just words. If you are, then congrats you are doing something right. I will say that I don't do any "marketing" on FAA, but that aside (which is probably my kiss of death) I would put my work up against yours any day. You have an arrogant tone, which speaks a lot about your character. I am sure you have a few nice images so why don't you post a few like me?
Ok so your work is not boring. I prefaced all my statements by maybe, because these are reasons you might not be selling. You gave the reason why. I am not arrogant. I am straight forward and honest and trying to help. Saying the site is dying is a way of escaping the reality that there is something going on you have to address. The site is quite obviously growing in sales and members. Look at the stats on the front page under "today". I won't post my images because you have better work. As a marine biologist that is unable to dive I only wish I had your portfolio. But I am selling better than ever. And I am falling back in the default search. Two artists have flooded me out. A sort by most popular on a certain word will bring my files to the top. But in the default search many new images with no sales are ahead of mine. I do have a good Google presence. I also have excellent keywording skills. I do other things to make sure my work is visible. I make more money on stock but I work harder to sell prints. Actually I have applied some of my new marketing skills to stock and it helps there also.
The site is becoming increasingly competitive, but it is possible to sell and even thrive without being promoted by the site.
« Last Edit: October 23, 2014, 12:08 by landbysea »


 

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