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« on: March 25, 2018, 20:32 »
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I started about 6 months ago there and have zero sales so far.


« Reply #1 on: March 25, 2018, 20:55 »
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You've answered your own question!

« Reply #2 on: March 25, 2018, 23:03 »
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I started about 6 months ago there and have zero sales so far.

I started 6 years ago and have the same number of sales as you.

« Reply #3 on: March 26, 2018, 00:59 »
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Fine Art America is a site for "Artists".
Are you an "Artist"?

« Reply #4 on: March 26, 2018, 04:01 »
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18 sales in 5 years so a nice bonus once in a while.

« Reply #5 on: March 26, 2018, 06:11 »
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2.2% of my total, in 2017. And I'm not an artist!  ;)
« Last Edit: March 26, 2018, 08:58 by Zero Talent »

Uncle Pete

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« Reply #6 on: March 26, 2018, 11:22 »
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I started about 6 months ago there and have zero sales so far.

I started 6 years ago and have the same number of sales as you.

I'm doing the same but I didn't pay for display which means I only have 24 somewhat artsy images. I suspect that some of the people there, not those here who work and have made sales, are using FAA as a fulfillment printer for contract work or their own sales. There was one guy who had plenty of sales, dogs, abstract, which were a different dog every time I saw a sale.  So buy one of my works of "Art" and make me wrong.  ;D  https://fineartamerica.com/profiles/pete-klinger.html

Now that I look, I could easily move out five, filler near the last, for something a little more likely to hang on a wall someplace. The Buffalo National River is absolutely flat, nothing, no interest, boring.

« Reply #7 on: March 26, 2018, 11:56 »
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I did reasonably well in the first few years. In some lucky days, I could even make over $1000 in a single day. Usually I had sales every month.

However, since it became pixel.com and started to carry products, my sales have gone downhill. Last year, I only made 3 sales. This year, none so far.

I hope it could focus on the fine art side of the business because it was its strength, and not get distracted by products which have not likely been sold in big volume as its owner had hoped, I suspect.
« Last Edit: March 26, 2018, 15:13 by Orchidpoet »

« Reply #8 on: March 26, 2018, 13:57 »
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Had several sales the first year, then nothing for two years. Last year one, this year one so far. I have earned more from paintings than from photographs.

« Reply #9 on: March 26, 2018, 18:01 »
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I made two sales in March so far this year

« Reply #10 on: March 26, 2018, 22:15 »
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I make double on FAA in comparison to Shutterstock per month, admittedly i don't submit anything to SS (or micro) these days. Spend my time working on RM while preparing for the oncoming blockchain stock disruption - creativechain.org | photochain.io | stockblock.io | kodakcoin.com | tge.selfllery.com
« Last Edit: March 26, 2018, 22:30 by jorgophotography »

« Reply #11 on: March 27, 2018, 16:15 »
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This is my first year and maybe last. We will see. Paid my 30 bucks or so to be on site. Have about 1300 hundred images and have made two sells so far. Sells totals 8 bucks to me so far....

« Reply #12 on: March 28, 2018, 09:31 »
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Four sales in about 4 years with the 25 photos (free plan) . About 200 $, total.

« Reply #13 on: March 28, 2018, 16:43 »
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I used to sell regularly there, a few every month with 500 images.  No more.  They're busy bringing in big corporate sellers like Conde Nast and Getty, and a bit player like myself is buried deep. Their keyword search is a dumpster fire, and the site pushes products like phone cases and shower curtains. 

2 sales so far this year.

Unless you have your own marketing campaign, or a very successful keyword niche, I'd say FAA is just another waste of upload time.

« Reply #14 on: March 29, 2018, 07:24 »
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I've been there for a few years and have made enough to cover the cost of membership for the foreseeable future. I went through the whole of 2016 without a sale, then made almost 300 with five sales last year.  Nothing so far this year. I've got nearly 900 images there, including some medium and large format black-and-white film which sometimes sell, so it's a place where I can put some of my more experimental stuff.
Looking back, I see I made almost $600 in 2012, so that was pretty good.
« Last Edit: March 29, 2018, 07:28 by BaldricksTrousers »

« Reply #15 on: April 02, 2018, 18:21 »
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I've had around 70 sales since I joined in 2012, some were cards and pillows and the like, but most are still prints. Even with piddly amounts such as $7.00 return on a shower curtain, my return per sale this year is above $100 per, as print sales usually bring in somewhere between $100-300 per sale, so a handful of sales every month or so makes the $30/year worthwhile.

I'm a tiny seller and my stuff is drowned out by the Conde Nasts, etc. so I have no clue what a top artist makes there. I have just over 575 images and get a few sales a month most of the time, but  sometimes it can be very quiet with nothing but maybe a pillow or greeting card. Someone bought three large framed prints of my work on one day about a month ago (I assume it's the same person all three sales were from the same small town), so that was a good day.

My last 11 sales were travel scenics. Travel seems to be my best seller there, the sales preceding those were seasonal greeting cards - New Years in fact, rather than Christmas.  I sell a decent number of black and white prints, although I sell more color.

I wish I knew what the top artists made, but I don't think Vincent Van Gogh is telling.
« Last Edit: April 02, 2018, 18:24 by wordplanet »

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« Reply #16 on: April 04, 2018, 10:13 »
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Finally got my first sale on FAA today...this is after 1 year!


« Reply #17 on: April 05, 2018, 01:49 »
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Finally got my first sale on FAA today...this is after 1 year!

Congratulations! So, is 10 - 15% the normal mark up? I have no idea what to add to their prices.

I've had around 70 sales since I joined in 2012, some were cards and pillows and the like, but most are still prints. Even with piddly amounts such as $7.00 return on a shower curtain, my return per sale this year is above $100 per, as print sales usually bring in somewhere between $100-300 per sale, so a handful of sales every month or so makes the $30/year worthwhile.

$100-300 per sale is fantastic! Your art is obviously beautiful!

Brasilnut

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« Reply #18 on: April 05, 2018, 04:21 »
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Congratulations! So, is 10 - 15% the normal mark up? I have no idea what to add to their prices.


Master Steve has some useful tips on pricing at FAA:

http://www.backyardsilver.com/2013/01/fine-art-america-a-new-way-to-earn-cash-from-digital-photos/

As well as some follow-up articles.

Hope that's helpful.

Alex

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« Reply #19 on: April 05, 2018, 07:16 »
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I make double on FAA in comparison to Shutterstock per month, admittedly i don't submit anything to SS (or micro) these days. Spend my time working on RM while preparing for the oncoming blockchain stock disruption - creativechain.org | photochain.io | stockblock.io | kodakcoin.com | tge.selfllery.com

You win the "Shoehorn of the Day" award.

PaulieWalnuts

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« Reply #20 on: April 05, 2018, 22:18 »
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I can't find the more recent stats Sean at FAA posted. Here's an article from 2012 with $5M in annual revenue.

"Our best-selling artists are in the range of $5,000 to $10,000 a month. That is a small number of artists."

Their 2017 revenue was $25M so not sure if the top artists are earning 5x 2012 stats.

http://www.sramanamitra.com/2012/03/26/doing-5m-a-year-with-3-employees-fineartamerica-ceo-sean-broihier-part-5/

« Reply #21 on: April 06, 2018, 02:28 »
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Their 2017 revenue was $25M so not sure if the top artists are earning 5x 2012 stats.

They won't be. The butter will have become more thinly spread as more people join up. Even so, the best of them might have increased sales significantly over the past six years. The fall-off in earnings between the best seller of all and the tenth best - or even the second-best - is probably huge.

« Reply #22 on: April 07, 2018, 05:47 »
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10 sales this year, so far.

« Reply #23 on: April 07, 2018, 07:59 »
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I make double on FAA in comparison to Shutterstock per month, admittedly i don't submit anything to SS (or micro) these days. Spend my time working on RM while preparing for the oncoming blockchain stock disruption - creativechain.org | photochain.io | stockblock.io | kodakcoin.com | tge.selfllery.com

You win the "Shoehorn of the Day" award.

My SS earnings are very low, so will have to abdicate that shoehorn your way ;)
« Last Edit: April 07, 2018, 08:02 by jorgophotography »

« Reply #24 on: April 07, 2018, 09:30 »
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Spend my time working on RM while preparing for the oncoming blockchain stock disruption - creativechain.org | photochain.io | stockblock.io | kodakcoin.com | tge.selfllery.com
An article i wrote on this topic ;)
https://medium.com/@CryptoBlockBits/stock-photography-the-blockchain-revolution-7d5e0a7f42d9
« Last Edit: April 07, 2018, 09:33 by jorgophotography »

« Reply #25 on: April 07, 2018, 11:11 »
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Congratulations! So, is 10 - 15% the normal mark up? I have no idea what to add to their prices.


Master Steve has some useful tips on pricing at FAA:

http://www.backyardsilver.com/2013/01/fine-art-america-a-new-way-to-earn-cash-from-digital-photos/

As well as some follow-up articles.

Hope that's helpful.

Alex


That article is from 2013.

ShadySue

« Reply #26 on: April 07, 2018, 16:29 »
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Remember that FAA isn't run like a stock agency; they have never made any bones about their expectation that we should bring in buyers. So if, like me, you make occasional sales while doing no marketing of your own, you can count yourself lucky. The top sellers say they actively or even aggressively market and use FAA for fulfilment.

Though I haven't looked this year, it used to be that at least some of the regular sellers had no keywords/description and bland titles, so clearly they weren't even hoping to pick up casual sales. E.g., some were photographic portraits of unnamed people just e.g. Portrait 1, no description or keywords, so presumably they are social photographers with no local printer they can trust.

Again, I haven't looked this year, but it used to be that at least 90% of reported sales were to Americans; in my own case it's probably more than that although I don't have much US content - what I'm selling is either from my US content or European images which may well be iconic to Americans USians (I don't have sales in Canada or the rest of the Americas).

« Reply #27 on: April 08, 2018, 11:19 »
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I do no 'marketing' but somehow sell a print on FAA once in a while.  I've had photos there for about 5 years and during that time have seen probably 100 threads in their forum on the "need to market yourself".   Some enthusiastic artist starts it, talking about how Twitter just brought them another sale.  Lively discussion follows, and it always ends with these conclusions:

1.  You have to market your work. 
2.  The main tools for that are Twitter, Facebook and Pinterest.
3.  Twitter no longer works, it's just a big waste of time.
4.  Facebook no longer works, it's just a big waste of time.
5.  Pinterest no longer works, it's just a big waste of time.
6.  Hey, all the kids are on Instagram now.  You need to be there!

« Last Edit: April 08, 2018, 11:49 by stockastic »

« Reply #28 on: April 17, 2018, 13:26 »
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Fine Art America is a site for "Artists".
Are you an "Artist"?

Is this a serious answer? My god if it is you just saved me a hell of a lot of wasted time. I was just thinking of going in strictly with printed merchandise and painted art.

« Reply #29 on: April 17, 2018, 13:27 »
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I started about 6 months ago there and have zero sales so far.

I started 6 years ago and have the same number of sales as you.


Is this a serious answer? My god if it is you just saved me a hell of a lot of wasted time. I was just thinking of going in strictly with printed merchandise and painted art.

« Reply #30 on: April 17, 2018, 14:43 »
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I do no 'marketing' but somehow sell a print on FAA once in a while.  I've had photos there for about 5 years and during that time have seen probably 100 threads in their forum on the "need to market yourself".   Some enthusiastic artist starts it, talking about how Twitter just brought them another sale.  Lively discussion follows, and it always ends with these conclusions:

1.  You have to market your work. 
2.  The main tools for that are Twitter, Facebook and Pinterest.
3.  Twitter no longer works, it's just a big waste of time.
4.  Facebook no longer works, it's just a big waste of time.
5.  Pinterest no longer works, it's just a big waste of time.
6.  Hey, all the kids are on Instagram now.  You need to be there!

Maybe yes, maybe not.
I'm not doing any marketing nor self-promotion at all. I'm not active in groups and I'm not socializing with other FAA members.
I keep less than 400 images on FAA and I made about $400, in 2018, so far.

That's more than OK, for me.
« Last Edit: April 17, 2018, 14:47 by Zero Talent »

« Reply #31 on: April 28, 2018, 20:46 »
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Has anyone ever seen a large format framed print from FAA?  I'm thinking of buying one.. for convenience.. and as a test.  Would like to get a quality review before ordering.
« Last Edit: April 28, 2018, 20:48 by trek »

« Reply #32 on: April 30, 2018, 07:21 »
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Finally got my first sale on FAA today...this is after 1 year!

You're charging just $20 for a 20x30 inch  print? My price for that size is $120. I reckon that if people want "fine art" print for their wall it's a one-off purchase that they won't balk at paying a reasonable sum for. So on the rare occasion that I get a sale I want it to  be for a reasonable  sum.
« Last Edit: April 30, 2018, 07:31 by BaldricksTrousers »

« Reply #33 on: April 30, 2018, 07:26 »
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Has anyone ever seen a large format framed print from FAA?  I'm thinking of buying one.. for convenience.. and as a test.  Would like to get a quality review before ordering.

Yes, I had them print a B&W image of mine at 24" x 19.25". It was excellent. However, how good the print is will depend on how good the scanning is, so you need to evaluate that. It will vary from artist to artist.
My print wasn't framed, though.

ShadySue

« Reply #34 on: April 30, 2018, 10:33 »
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Don't they use a variety of printers depending on where you're based? At one point, don't know about now, word/rumour was the the UK fulfilment was being done at a well known pro printer near Glasgow.
« Last Edit: April 30, 2018, 18:38 by ShadySue »

« Reply #35 on: April 30, 2018, 13:48 »
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Yes they use any number of print suppliers and never give out any information about them.

« Reply #36 on: June 02, 2018, 11:32 »
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Ive had an aluminum print & a regular framed print on Somerset fine art paper - both very high quality.  As good as any of the labs I normally use when Ive had work printed for gallery shows. I dont use them for fulfillment.
I Sent a couple of people there who contacted me for prints but some who were willing to spend hundreds for a print ballked at their shipping costs so now I use my regular lab if I can deliver the work myself.
I used to promote my work regularly on Twitter & sometimes on FB and while I can trace some sales to thos promos Im not sure the time was worth it but I guess having those links out there might help. My mark ups on prints are higher than most Ive seen - Ive seen some of my framed prints go for several hundred dollars. I find those who dont want to spend that buy smaller prints.
Given the time Ive put in I should be making more - Id love be to be in that $5-10K group. I think FAA is one of the biggest and best known sellers of prints online and in any case Ive always made back more than the $30 yearly cost with my first print sale of the year. But Im making hundreds not thousands.

« Reply #37 on: June 02, 2018, 11:35 »
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« Reply #38 on: June 02, 2018, 11:38 »
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I've had around 70 sales since I joined in 2012, some were cards and pillows and the like, but most are still prints. Even with piddly amounts such as $7.00 return on a shower curtain, my return per sale this year is above $100 per, as print sales usually bring in somewhere between $100-300 per sale, so a handful of sales every month or so makes the $30/year worthwhile.

$100-300 per sale is fantastic! Your art is obviously beautiful!

Thanks so much.

« Reply #39 on: June 29, 2018, 15:25 »
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Update:  I received a 36 inch framed print.  Looks good.  Nice to know their quality is as advertised. 

« Reply #40 on: June 30, 2018, 09:01 »
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The paper prints seem to be consistently ok.  I see lots of complaints about metal prints in their forum.


« Reply #41 on: June 30, 2018, 14:52 »
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I went with luster paper.  I like metallic but it seems to present best with gallery style lighting.  Casual lighting here.   

« Reply #42 on: June 30, 2018, 20:37 »
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I'm picking FAA is in steady decline


 

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