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« Reply #50 on: June 14, 2013, 17:14 »
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Ok I just looked at 3Drose.com.  OW OW OW that hurts!   I wouldn't say 1800, more like 1993, which is worse :-)
« Last Edit: June 14, 2013, 17:22 by stockastic »


« Reply #51 on: June 14, 2013, 17:54 »
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Ok I just looked at 3Drose.com.  OW OW OW that hurts!   I wouldn't say 1800, more like 1993, which is worse :-)

OK you made me look. Yikes. They need help.

« Reply #52 on: June 14, 2013, 17:58 »
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Is there a way to globally change my royalty on business cards? I want them all to be 14.9% but too lazy to go into them one by one.

edit: oops, never mind, found it.
sorry but I have to laugh a little.   You want to have a royalty rate lower than 15%?  Aren't you always saying how bad istock is and you get better than that there.

14.99% of x amount of dollars that I actually sell on zazzle is better than the 20% of nothing that I was getting on istock. So yes, a lower royalty rate from a site that I actually sell something at is better than it was for me at istock. And in case you havent noticed, I have been slowly closing my accounts just about everywhere because they are all basically greedy ba$tards. So go ahead and laugh.  ::)

« Reply #53 on: June 14, 2013, 18:42 »
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There is a bar against all information that leaves man in everlasting ignorance and that bar is "Contempt prior to investigation". 

 They are not a POD Market Place they sell on other networks I don't think they care what the site looks like nor does it matter at all.

Type in 3Drose on Amazon or just in the search engines, go to image etc..  and I don;t see Zazzle or any other POD with this much exposure,  To each his own just trying to help out.  I am sold but then again I see the resut in cash every month,  I also said they were growing .... to funny,
« Last Edit: June 14, 2013, 19:03 by TonyRay »

« Reply #54 on: June 14, 2013, 18:48 »
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we aren't blind mate, yeah I see they have 187,839 Results @ amazon.com (http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=bl_sr_hi?_encoding=UTF8&field-brandtextbin=3dRose&node=228013)

don't minus me anymore or I will be very sad ok? :(

« Reply #55 on: June 14, 2013, 18:52 »
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Minus you?  Sorry not sure what you mean however was replying to the laughing at and comments about the company.   Here is a good friend of mine that has over 72,000 results of her designs.

Again was just responding to someone wanting to know if there was a place to make money that works.  We are use to seeing POD's its a strange page for sure but it works for what I need it.. we all have just learned to let them do what they do and collect our pay.. maybe should of warned ya but never thought of it ... :D

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_1?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=3drose+Dooni+Designs&rh=i%3Aaps%2Ck%3A3drose+Dooni+Designs

« Last Edit: June 14, 2013, 19:02 by TonyRay »

« Reply #56 on: June 15, 2013, 12:46 »
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I always had my royalties at 30% but lowered it to 15% when I found out it would make a diff for promotion. After reading that, I will set it at 50%. I dont sell anything on Zazzle anyway. Since a few months its dead. I only had 2 sales a month anyway. Once I hit payout I am closing my store.
I agree with you. I lowered mine to the 10-15% range last month to see if my VB would make up the difference but its no contest. Now with the VB gone, I'm pushing everything back up. The commissions I've had this month are worse than the subs I use to get. I'd rather get no sales than pennies which is why I got out of microstock.

« Reply #57 on: June 15, 2013, 12:59 »
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Now come to think about  it, 14.9% probably won't make any difference to get my products into promotions. They are likely to promote whatever at 5% level. I have adjusted my percentage to higher levels.

« Reply #58 on: June 15, 2013, 21:40 »
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Now come to think about  it, 14.9% probably won't make any difference to get my products into promotions. They are likely to promote whatever at 5% level. I have adjusted my percentage to higher levels.

Exactly and they pretty much elluded to that already.  I opened a store under a different addy and did it all at 10 percent 5 months ago as I saw this coming when the affiliate Surprise came in and said who she would promote and that was only the default royalties.   Guess what I have sold 3 things..LOL  and not one referred and not one from a sale they had going on.  So even if you knuckle down to these pretty much threats of exposure they are going to pick who they want, and I believe the ones picked live in San Jose California , vendors, create your own, and a few High up Elites.  But the MP will start at 5 percent in rankings and I refuse to go there EVER....


« Reply #59 on: June 16, 2013, 12:03 »
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Regardless of royalties - the site is so buggy and slow, how do you guys even use it? I played around with it a bit, and it either freezes on me after I spend 15 minutes creating a series of products, or crashes, or some products or categories just disappear into thin air... it takes at least a few days to update my "store", so I can never be sure what I've done already... tons of time wasted! should have concentrated on FAA - at least the uploads there are straightforward.

Ron

« Reply #60 on: June 16, 2013, 12:19 »
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Well if one site has a buggy upload system its FAA. In the year that I am submitting there, it hasnt worked once without failing. Unless you upload one image at a time, and that does produce errors as well at times. No need to report it though, they ignore it as they do with a lot of problems.

« Reply #61 on: June 16, 2013, 12:39 »
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Well if one site has a buggy upload system its FAA. In the year that I am submitting there, it hasnt worked once without failing. Unless you upload one image at a time, and that does produce errors as well at times. No need to report it though, they ignore it as they do with a lot of problems.

I had issues uploading sometimes but overall it works well I guess, usually I upload 5 pictures and then submit 1 and only when it says done I click on the second, etc

you got a point when you say they don't listen or explain much ::)

« Reply #62 on: June 16, 2013, 13:44 »
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Well if one site has a buggy upload system its FAA. In the year that I am submitting there, it hasnt worked once without failing. Unless you upload one image at a time, and that does produce errors as well at times. No need to report it though, they ignore it as they do with a lot of problems.

That is interesting as I have been there many years and have no problem other than using the Qucik Create feature which sucks and I like designing each product individually.  I have over 200,000 products on my stores and half of that uploaded there in designs and although its a learning curve I can pretty much kick butt there by using pre made templates   for everything,


There is a entire section of tutorials, and if you got to Youtube hundreds of videos for creating, designing you stores, and more.


Edit... talking about Zazzle sorry see we got into FAA but Zazzle for me is far superior than any other POD and it takes up to72 hours to appear in your store     some have to be approved so if they seem to dissapear go to your in progress file they are probably there.   
« Last Edit: June 16, 2013, 13:48 by TonyRay »

« Reply #63 on: June 16, 2013, 16:58 »
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I'm on FAA (never sold anything) and have a few things on Zazzle (a sale now and then).   I have to say, after hearing about these latest changes, I'm really glad I didn't spend a lot of time on Zazzle, only to have the rug pulled out from under me.   

These 2 sites have something in common; things never get any better.  When they were new, they were hot; but nothing significant has changed in years, no major updates or improvements; the only thing that changes is that things steadily get worse for contributors.

Basically they're cash cows, not getting any new investment or development.  They're begging for new competition, but it's hard to go up against a well established name that buyers know, like Zazzle.
« Last Edit: June 16, 2013, 17:47 by stockastic »

« Reply #64 on: June 16, 2013, 19:15 »
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I'm on FAA (never sold anything) and have a few things on Zazzle (a sale now and then).   I have to say, after hearing about these latest changes, I'm really glad I didn't spend a lot of time on Zazzle, only to have the rug pulled out from under me.   

These 2 sites have something in common; things never get any better.  When they were new, they were hot; but nothing significant has changed in years, no major updates or improvements; the only thing that changes is that things steadily get worse for contributors.

Basically they're cash cows, not getting any new investment or development.  They're begging for new competition, but it's hard to go up against a well established name that buyers know, like Zazzle.

sorry but were you EVER happy with an agency? maybe the problem resides on you, time to work on that perhaps, it is never late!

« Reply #65 on: June 16, 2013, 21:04 »
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Regardless of royalties - the site is so buggy and slow, how do you guys even use it? I played around with it a bit, and it either freezes on me after I spend 15 minutes creating a series of products, or crashes, or some products or categories just disappear into thin air... it takes at least a few days to update my "store", so I can never be sure what I've done already... tons of time wasted! should have concentrated on FAA - at least the uploads there are straightforward.

Yes, Zazzle can be very frustrating.  When I joined, they were in the midst of several major site bugs where everything was taking well over 24 hours to post to your account and even adding things to store categories took over 24 hours (and each time you clicked on it, you reset that counter - ugh!).   I thought I was going crazy clicking on links and then not having it work, but reading the forums confirmed it wasn't just me.   It seems to be running a little better now - although I have been having quick create problems yesterday.   

I did set up my templates for quick create, but then a bunch of them broke when they updated some of the products, so I haven't taken the time to re-do them.   And if you have your own templates, I never figured out a good way to go back and add my old designs to the new products via a quick create - it seems like you need to have huge amounts of organization skills outside of Zazzle to keep track of it all.   I wish there were easier ways to see which design I have where, which one needs to be added to the new iPhone 5 cases for example, etc.   

My biggest complaint about Zazzle is the lack of metadata import function.  At least FAA can read your keywords, which saves a ton of time.  Hmmm... maybe someone needs to create a "Deep Meta" for Zazzle.   Then again, with the negative site changes, maybe not.

« Reply #66 on: June 24, 2013, 19:28 »
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Regardless of royalties - the site is so buggy and slow, how do you guys even use it? I played around with it a bit, and it either freezes on me after I spend 15 minutes creating a series of products, or crashes, or some products or categories just disappear into thin air... it takes at least a few days to update my "store", so I can never be sure what I've done already... tons of time wasted! should have concentrated on FAA - at least the uploads there are straightforward.

Yes, Zazzle can be very frustrating.  When I joined, they were in the midst of several major site bugs where everything was taking well over 24 hours to post to your account and even adding things to store categories took over 24 hours (and each time you clicked on it, you reset that counter - ugh!).   I thought I was going crazy clicking on links and then not having it work, but reading the forums confirmed it wasn't just me.   It seems to be running a little better now - although I have been having quick create problems yesterday.   

I did set up my templates for quick create, but then a bunch of them broke when they updated some of the products, so I haven't taken the time to re-do them.   And if you have your own templates, I never figured out a good way to go back and add my old designs to the new products via a quick create - it seems like you need to have huge amounts of organization skills outside of Zazzle to keep track of it all.   I wish there were easier ways to see which design I have where, which one needs to be added to the new iPhone 5 cases for example, etc.   

My biggest complaint about Zazzle is the lack of metadata import function.  At least FAA can read your keywords, which saves a ton of time.  Hmmm... maybe someone needs to create a "Deep Meta" for Zazzle.   Then again, with the negative site changes, maybe not.

I have to agree that they change things so often there are bugs all the time or some sort.  Latest F U flash is they are stopping our ability to design our stores and will be making them all the same.  Many people have spent momey having their stores customized, and now will be taken down.   

I seldom us QC what I do is have categories...for instance "Abstract" so when I want to say make phone cases all I have to do is just go to a already made design add the new one and tweak a tag word of so hit publish.  So if you have your stuff in catagories and sub categories it should not be difficult making new products.   I seldom make anything from scratch or with the QC just have my new images ready and add them to similar images and do a little editing.

As far as the speed of the site again I have no issues its usually working just fine for me.

« Reply #67 on: June 24, 2013, 21:10 »
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I spotted the e-mail today about the store customizations.   I agree, there are some folks who paid to have their Zazzle stores prettied up and now they are SOL.   (As well as the small sub market of folks who were designing store fronts for other sellers).  It isn't going to affect me much, as I already use a category sorting system, and had virtually no customizations on my store.   It always seemed my store was pretty pointless, I don't think anyone browsed it.  I would guess most of my sales traffic was from the marketplace or affiliates.   

I do like that they will unify the storefront look - I think it will give buyers a better experience - especially on mobile devices.  For every well designed and beautiful storefront there were 10 that were almost unreadable with crazy colored text on the wrong color background.  My own storefront was definitely not something I am proud of, and I am a bit relieved that I won't have to worry about it anymore. 

I hate that we don't know WHEN this will happen.   Only "soon".     

Ron

« Reply #68 on: June 25, 2013, 07:40 »
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Hmmm, interesting developments. Changed my royalty to 15% and had 4 sales since. However, before the 20th of June I changed it to 50%  but the last 2 sales of the 4 sales, were on 21 and 23 june, at 15% still.

Wrote support about it, but maybe the 15% does work in getting more sales.


« Reply #69 on: June 25, 2013, 08:15 »
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Hmmm, interesting developments. Changed my royalty to 15% and had 4 sales since. However, before the 20th of June I changed it to 50%  but the last 2 sales of the 4 sales, were on 21 and 23 june, at 15% still.

Wrote support about it, but maybe the 15% does work in getting more sales.

It will be interesting to see how your sales compare with the higher rate going forward.   I have heard some people get more sales at the 15%, but not enough to cover the higher royalties they had been getting at their previous rate.

I just hope Zazzle gives us better royalty management tools like they have mentioned on the forums.   I would like to set my royalty rate by product more easily so that for the really expensive items on the site I can set a lower rate than the cheap stickers and stuff.   I figure people are probably more price sensitive when buying a  $180 laptop bag or a $40 iPhone case than they are with $1.00 postcards, etc.   I can change royalites by product now, but only 100 items at a time, and it is still clunky and time consuming.    My ideal would be a system more like FAA where you can set a default rate for the different products on a single screen. 

donding

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« Reply #70 on: June 26, 2013, 11:57 »
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Many of us now are banned from the forums at Zazzle as of last May we saw some disturbing changes coming about.  When we posted about these we were banned some of us even threatened to have our stores closed and our earnings pending ceased.

I had trouble getting on the forum awhile back. I contacted customer support about it and was informed I was banned for spamming and making negative statements. All I ask was rather anyone was seeing an increase or decrease in their sales at the 10% level. Now after hearing what you just said, I doubt I was banned for spamming. I was never even on the forum that often. Maybe 10 posts total. They banned my IP address but after I had problems with my internet and the company reset my IP address, I was able to get back on....I'm just careful what I say these days.

donding

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« Reply #71 on: June 26, 2013, 12:03 »
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As far as creating products on Zazzle, I have only used quick create a couple of times and I never liked it. The products always look terrible after they do it and I always have to go back and redo them. I do like TonyRay..I use already uploaded templates and customize to create another one. It's much faster and easier than doing each one separately. Just do a few tweaks on the Title, Description and Keywords and your done.


 

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