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Envato / Re: Envato Marketplace License Updates
« on: January 23, 2013, 00:34 »
Assuming Shutterstock doesn't allow that, definitely. I'll look into it asap.

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Envato / Re: Envato Marketplace License Updates
« on: January 22, 2013, 23:16 »
Reef. Can you give me an example?

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Envato / Re: Envato Marketplace License Updates
« on: January 22, 2013, 23:00 »
It's fixed. If you see any other issues, please let me know and we'll jump on it asap! Thanks!

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Envato / Re: Envato Marketplace License Updates
« on: January 22, 2013, 22:24 »
Don't worry - we did not automatically opt anyone into the extended license. :)


So when did the PhotoDune Extended license come in to being?

I found a blog post from May 2012 that gives instructions on how to opt in to Extended Licenses - no mention of PhotoDune Extended licenses there.

What I want to understand is how I was (until this afternoon) opted in to Photo Dune Extended Licenses when I was opted out of Extended Licenses?


Thanks so much for pointing that out to us. The devs found the error that occurred during the change and are fixing it now. They say it'll be fixed in about 15 min.

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Envato / Re: Envato Marketplace License Updates
« on: January 22, 2013, 21:36 »
The PD extended license has existed since the site opened. Authors are opted in by default when they sign up, but if you ever opted out, you should never have been opted back in. I'll check to make sure there wasn't an accidental bug.

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Envato / Re: Envato Marketplace License Updates
« on: January 22, 2013, 21:05 »
Don't worry - we did not automatically opt anyone into the extended license. :)

As far as the pricing, this change to the licenses was just phase 2. A better pricing system for extended licenses is great idea. We'll look into it.

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Envato / Re: Envato Marketplace License Updates
« on: January 22, 2013, 20:19 »
I know that the use of photos in themes has been a hot topic over here. After weighing out the pros and cons, we finally decided to pull that out. Authors are no longer allowed to buy an item from our marketplaces and use them in another stock item for sale. We hope this protects you guys a little better and that you consider opting back into the extended licenses.

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Envato / Re: EL change at Envato?
« on: December 02, 2012, 16:03 »
Thanks for all of you who jumped into the survey already! It's been really interesting to see what people really place value on. There are already some surprises in there for me. Regarding the licenses, we're working on a new one that's being looked at by select authors and buyers right now.

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Hi Everyone. I'm Lance Snider from Envato. Hopefully I can shed some light on the reasoning behind this decision. Either way, I really appreciate the feedback.

1. What is the extended license for
The most common use of the extended license is to put it in an end product that will be sold, like a game, app, or even a magazine. That said, we wanted to give theme authors more options when developing and photo authors another type of potential client.

2. Is there a potentially infinite loop of EL's
No. Because the item must be incorporated into a larger project, the chain can only go so far. For example, if you put a photo in a flyer, that's it. You can't really take a flyer and make it into a 'larger project.' This infinite loop was something we were super worried about so we tried to come up with as many hypotheticals as we could. The longest string we could come up with was 3, but even that was super rare.

3. Extracting the photos
As was mentioned earlier in the thread, you couldn't pull the photos out of a flyer template and use them on their own or in other project.

4. Using photos in template previews, but not the download
There are cases where an author will use a photo in the preview, but not the download. We give authors 2 options. 1) Buy the photo, but link to where it can be purchased in the documentation. As long as you purchase the item, I don't know of any stock photo site that requires you to credit the author in a single-use situation like this. 2) Use the watermarked version and link back to the author. We did this to help cross-promote things like photos on popular files from ThemeForest and the other sites.

5. Opting out
We definitely understand that the license isn't perfect for everyone. That's why we've included the ability to opt out.

I wasn't 100% clear whether the issue was the price or that this option exists at all. For example, if it were much more expensive, would you still opt out to avoid your files being used in this way?

I'll be very interested to hear your comments! :)

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