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Messages - C0rnholio

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I have my images accepted for 1 week but I can't find them when searching, also my portfolio is empty. This is pretty stupid considering it's APRIL and they haven't sort this thing out yet.

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My SS wait times are as usual - around 5-6 days.

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My opinion was that not enough images were taken down - so I simply calculated the most optimistic scenario possible with the 1 mil figure. 1 mil out of 15-20 mil - is still not that much to hurt a company this huge. So if you guys say it's really actually 50K proves my point even more. We actually know about 2-3 top contributors that have quit ( or have had their accounts closed ) - so there's the 50K. Where do you get the 50K figure ? I'm not saying it's not true, just curious what you base your answer on. I still say that this is like a drop in an ocean no matter if it's 50K, 70K or even 200K. My bottom line was that we should do something MORE than that if we want the efforts to count.

What I am saying is that in this business ( and mostly all of them to be honest ) it all comes down to SALES not how many images it holds. iStock is pretty huge now whether we like it or not, so for them it doesn't really matter if there's 20 mil images up there, or 18 mil or 25mil. The sales will KEEP COMING IN simply because there are TOO MANY contributors so any buyer is very much likely to find what he needs.

I was happy to see you guys have a positive and optimistic feeling about what happened on Feb 2nd or around the Google deal events and I really want to believe WE HAVE SOME SORT OF SAYING in things like this.

But let's think about it for a second, this was one of the lamest stunts in the industry. If you ask ALL contributors about it, I'm sure that more than 95% would genuinely NOT BE OK with it. Seems that this thread has 43K views, to be honest I don't understand how that works really, since the forum has only 32K users - I suppose the guests are counted in there also as I know that as a registered user you only bring that number up with 1 no matter how many times you visited the thread. So let's optimistically assume that over 40K people have seen this thread, there are also other threads in here ... Also there are numerous blogs, websites, facebook groups etc and other forums where these things are shared... we could say this had a pretty big exposure worldwide.

Bottom line : if this whole "historical and groundbreaking" scandal didn't manage to create a bigger impact than 50-70K images taken down, where do we stand really ? What can be done in the long run then ... This is what worries me...

Just that the wait times on the other agencies have increased, it could also mean that a lot of iS users decided not to be exclusive anymore so they rushed to upload their big folios at SS and others. I still don't understand something - why does a company as big as iStock want exclusives ? Maybe I'm thinking small here, but if each agency has about 15-20M images - who cares about exclusives ? I think the decision of NOT BEING AN EXCLUSIVE anymore - doesn't hurt iStock that much as it does the actual exclusive user that's gone non-exclusive now.

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That is absolutely awesome news.

To be honest I made some calculations of my own - let's say a "good" contributor has what - 1000 images @iS at least ( right ? ) and a top one has over 10K. However the top ones ( over 10K ) are like ... 100 or 200 ( correct me if I'm wrong ). I mean Arcurs has like ... 40-50K images so let's assume that the top contributors have in average about 15K images. So 200 x 15K = 3 mil images. But let's assume that half of those ( and I think could be more ) - are not watching this forum ( or others ). I have friends that did not even hear about the iStock/Google deal and they are contributors for years.  So the word went out to the contributors of 1.5 mil image holders. Out of those 1.5 images - let's assume that 1 mil ( and that is just being optimist ) was taken off the site. So we have 1 mil images taken down ( although I am pretty much afraid that's way too optimistic ). Let's say the others have also pulled off another million images - we have 2 mil. Although I am afraid not even 1 mil images have been taken off for real ...Not to mention most contributors HAVE NOT closed their account or deleted their photos. Many of them considered quitting exclusivity as a way to "punish" iS/getty so their folio is still up there, just that they made it available in other places also. I perfectly understand and salute the initiative, but most of the people are thinking about themselves pretty good before they pull the trigger on a money bringing alternative such as iStock.

Now on the buyer's perspective. They log in - look for a specific image - even if the top players have left - it's very likely that HE WILL FIND the suitable image he was looking for from the remaining users. So the sale is still made, money doesn't stop coming in. That is where the big problem is. Yes of course, iStock took a pretty nasty hit. Regarding quality of contributors, I think mostly it all comes down to QUANTITY rather then QUALITY in itself. Considering the iStock acceptance policy in the past years, it's safe to assume that if an image IS UP THERE - it's very likely that is of a GREAT QUALITY technically. It's maybe something about my images but I get an acceptance ratio on iS which is less than 50% of what I get from SS ( which is the second most pretentious agency in my book ). I get pretty much everything accepted on DT and FT. So from a buyer's perspective, it doesn't really matter WHO uploaded the photo, it's very likely the one he will get from iS - is of a GREAT QUALITY. So all in all, what does a TOP Contributor bring to the table and a bunch of other smaller ones don't already have there?

In my opinion, as I said before - the biggest impact on iStock business since the Google deal was in the buyer's section. I suppose that many, after reading about the hype created, decided not to purchase from iStock on a general principle, thinking that IT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO considering they are Jerks to their contributors. Others that have read about it, simply got the idea NOW that there could be other great alternatives so rushed into the competition. iStock was pretty clear about how they don't really care much about contributors considering their policy of closing TOP accounts in left and right.

So all in all - it was a success, probably not just because a lot of users simply jumped boat ( and I have my suspicion that there were not that many as we all like to believe ) but rather of what happens to a lot of buyers as a result of all the hype around the web. And that's where it really hurts. Probably this whole FIASCO on the forums, blogs and everything created a much bigger mess than they anticipated.

It's great to see WE ACTUALLY HAVE A SAY in things. Considering this is probably the biggest THING in microstock recent history ( or entire history ) it's up to us to really make something about that COUNTS, because if this doesn't make it happen, what will ??

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As far as I know this thing was the biggest scandal in microstock's recent history. And the biggest online mobilizing of contributors against a big fish.
There are a lot of talks around about the greed of big agency and WHAT can we ( the small people ) can do about it. I was reading on another thread about an attempt to bring the smaller ( fairer ) agencies to top - but we all know that we're just small drops in a huge ocean.

I am curios if we have any INFO on how this collective online RAGE against iStock paid off in the end. How many images have been taken off or how many users quit iStock. The scandal is all over the internet, blogs and website are screaming about it - the thing is pretty HUGE for the industry.

I figure that if this HUGE fiasco that got EVERYBODY MAD, didn't cause enough repercussion from the users that could even scratch iStock/Getty a bit - I am afraid that NOTHING WILL.

I am very happy to see people that are ready to make a stand, to go all the way - quitting big agencies for smaller ones - deliberately lowering their income just for THE GREATER GOOD but everything in the end might be for nothing.

Truth is, we cannot do anything to boycott the big boys because there are simply TOO MANY contributors to take our place ( and by we I mostly mean all of you - I'm was to small of a player ).

That's why I am very curios if anybody has any idea about the bottom line of this mass 2nd Feb thing. If it was big enough - we might just have a say after all.

Stock agencies DON'T NEED CONTRIBUTORS right now. There is a HUGE AMOUNT of contributors out there, everybody has a digital camera, almost everybody has a DSLR - and people are getting BETTER AND BETTER at photography as we speak. Everything is just VERY EASY and VERY CHEAP these days. What agencies need ( and have always needed ) ARE BUYERS.

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So do we have a clear image about how many users/images have been taken off iS since 2nd Feb? At least the big players ...
I am pretty curious on the whole thing. Seems that iS/Google are still not doing ANYTHING...

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