I just went to that group for the first time. I don't know how you can stand to read the stupid complaints there, when people get banned.

My original purpose was people kept posting stolen portfolios on there and via that i found a fair bit of my stuff stolen so i could find the account and report it.  Other than that, its useful to keep on eye on the scale of abuse by certain regions (id argue its now an industrial scale of fraud/copyright abuse).
If its any consolation, the SS ones are even worse...

The last 2 days though has been amusing - a lot of toys being thrown from the pram by all the people finding out they're newly banned or their 5th account is no more and want a 6th.

Can anyone tell what certification each agency actually requires and checks to upload footage to their collection?

Do any of them ask for details of the certifications / licensing / flight training / registration required for the country of the artist or the country where the footage is taken?

None.  P5 used to but stopped.  Most policy is "we are not regulators".

Given all of Europe, UK and elsewhere makes no distinction between recreational and commercial use at all this makes sense.  For lots of places theres simply no need to verify as theres nothing to verify.

I'm certainly one of the people who would report exceptionally poor earnings this month and I'm on target for the worst month there since 2009. Adobe is currently 3 times higher in earnings, and usually, Shutterstock and Adobe are neck and neck.

Part of this is due to the level reset, and January last year was also poor until I got back to level 4, but the download numbers are lower by about 30%.

I'm sure that Shutterstock report sales, and whilst I also have a good number of images in top search positions, I do see that mine are mostly being pushed down by AI coming up to the top.

The cynic in me assumes that this is advantageous to them, as they can turn a blind eye, get the income, and then close down these portfolios, allowing them to keep 100% of the profit.

Im not far off that.  Oddly the first week was above average then crashed in terms of volume and RPD.  Assuming it doesnt change im looking at 2012 or so levels with obviously a lot more assets.

RPD is whats crashed though for me.  Example last month it was $1.36 (photo and video combined).  This month is $0.56.  The last January before levels "Good news" it was $1.40

Its a combination of levels reset AND them selling more assets at a lower price to buyers meaning less to us.   Given levels are entirely volume dependent this looks like the first levels month i wont reach Level 3 photo OR Level 3 video by the end of it.

Yeah, it would be terrible if people got confused between a Roma and the city Roma and couldn't tell the difference in under 5 seconds. Yet you defend outright fraud in labeling a fake AI image as a real place?   

There was a blog post a while ago from an academic or similar looking for Roman statues or ancient Roman artefacts.  He was complaining that well over half the first page of search results were clearly unflagged and mislabelled AI.  3 arm statues, nothing genuine.  All "in the style of" which from an accuracy point of view just wasted his time.

gnirtS, don't mislead people.

Mislead?!  You made claims.  Twice i asked for data supporting those claims and none was given.  So lets try it again, show your figures to back it.

I only focus on the portfolios of top authors and the results of communication with those who uploaded videos with fps 60.

So lets see the "communications".  (Note, voices in your head are not valid communications)

I have already written my conclusions.

So show your workings

I categorically disagree with your texts in this topic. I am sure that you are a theorist who fantasizes here.

You're allowed to disagree but you're also making random claims without any supporting data at all.  I believe thats known as fantasy.

You've also shown a complete lack of understanding of anything in the modern video world regarding standards, framerates, formats, editing and in addition called the data from one of the largest stock submitters "lies".  So again, show your working.

If anyone does video or animation you can download Davinci Resolve.  There is a *free* version that has plenty of functionality, the paid license for life is around $300.

I used Premier and AE when i had the free "All Apps".  when i missed out on it the first time by 1 download i went to Resolve.  Initially free but then i decided i wanted the OFX, bought it and never looked back.
There's a learning curve BUT some excellent free training videos and books on the BlackMagic site that go through everything you need to know.  I find the colour grading much more powerful and the overall software better suited to my needs so no regrets.  A lifetime license as well.

I cant see me moving from Lightroom though - there still isnt anything else on the market with the integrated catalogue support and plugin support so i couldnt really manage without it.

In the USA, the power grid frequency is 60 Hz, which means there will be 60 half frames and 30 frames, respectively.

Yes.  But not relevant at all.

Blackbox is a lie.
You live in your own illusions. But yes, load 60 and 120, then tell us about your successes.

Still waiting for the stats to back up your claims.  As for loading 60, already have. Well over a thousand.  They sell just fine.  No difference to my 24/25 or 30 fps.

gnirtS, you can also look at new works by top authors and see that they load with fps 29.97.

That isnt relevant at all.  Their kit produces that frame rate.  Its also quite likely they film for other projects and stock is a sideline.  Not relevant.

I do not agree that fps does not affect sales. I claim that videos with fps 60 and 120 will sell much worse than videos with fps 29.97.

OK you can claim that.  Lets see stats and figures to back up that claim then.

You do not need to convince me of the advantages of fps 60, I am not interested. I am only guided by demand from buyers.
Write all this to buyers! 

I dont need to convince you.  All i know is from my data and that of Blackbox etc (ie sample size of millions) is that it makes no difference at all to buyers what frame rate its shot in.  No problem at all.

"OMG Frame Rate WRONG!!!111111" may have been an issue over a decade ago.  Given nobody uses fixed frame rate analogue tv any more and NLEs exist then its not now.

After a bit of advice on Blackbox here.
Finally signed up last month due to how time consuming submitting to SS/AS/P5 manually was getting combined with the SS levels resets.

The question ive got, is once approved by the reviewer there, typically how long does it take for them to submit it to the remote sites and is it done in random batches?

The reason being is I can find only some of my approved content on the actual sites, even searching very specifically.  For example one batch of videos i have 12 out of 12 on P5 and AS but only 2 on SS some 3 weeks after approval from BB.  This is the same for pretty much all my approved batches now, often some weeks on.

This seems to be happening on all my approved batches - even weeks after only some appear on some sites.  I doubt its agency rejections as i also submit directly still and get pretty much zero rejections for the same stuff.  So is there a different or staggered submit and review queue for BB in some places ?  How long do i realistically wait before deciding that particular video is never going to go live on that particular stock site and simply send it up manually ?

I tried to ask on the BB FB group but that appears to be heavily policed to people looking for collabs and nothing to do with support type questions.  Obviously if as it seems now 80% of my videos for some reason never appear on SS then its not worth continuing with.

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Adobe Stock should put a "Turn on AI generated contents" button above the search results.  Most buyers may not use the filter panel.

No. Make it a "turn OFF" and leave it ON by default. Those that WANT it off will find it easily. Others will get the benefit of both.

Or flip that, those that need a legit image or asset benefit from having it off by default.  Those that dont care if its artificial can easily find the turn on switch.

I wish you could explain to buyers what huge advantages they will get if they buy videos in 60 and 120 fps!

Advantages, they can better slow down and stabilise if needed.  They may also me using a 60p timeline.
Disadvantages, zero. None.  If they dont need the extra frames it costs nothing and has no negative effect for them.

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Buyers from the US will not buy 25 fps videos, they are more likely to buy 29.97 videos. Buyers from the EU buy both 25 and 29.97, because they are used to the fact that stocks mostly have 29.97 videos.

That really hasnt been the case for many many years now.  Old style FPS is a dated TV related concept and definitely before every single NLE on the market would seamlessly convert to what was needed with no loss in quality.  BB and other mass agencies all state there is no correlation between FPS and total sales or even regional sales.

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Look at the portfolios of top authors, you are unlikely to find many 60 fps videos there, if at all.

Because a lot of their kit is older and clips are older.  That doesnt mean they dont shoot it.  They just dont need to and its not worth upgrading for. 

One of the reasons is that they cannot be sure if the respective generator uses ethically sourced content..

What AI generators used ethically sourced content?  Ie all learning content was pre-agreed by owners of the original images in order to train.

I cant think of a single one that meets that criteria.