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« on: February 01, 2017, 09:02 »
the lesson everything learnt micro stock u can upload everything and earn...don-t be too picky...i upload everything even those file that are made for garbage of my mac...and u know i see sign of increasing download day after day....i never considered video but i-m beginning too. i have many drone footage to upload....i never considered those sellable but i-m too picky and hard with my work, considered the kind of footage sold in pond 5
Will some cheap camera for 1000$ be good for microstock videos, I am not willing to invest 6000$ into the better models?
anything will be good. i don't think right now anybody in micro sock agency cares about quality. 1000 you can buy a used gh4. adapt or buy some lens is cheap. save for a video tripod and monopod...go out of home and shoot everything, from dog pet cat to car...in one day you can do if you live in big city 10000 clip of 10 second and if correct earn money...think also everybody will do this so we reach 1 billion video in less than 5 months.
1052
« on: February 01, 2017, 08:27 »
the lesson everything learnt micro stock u can upload everything and earn...don-t be too picky...i upload everything even those file that are made for garbage of my mac...and u know i see sign of increasing download day after day....i never considered video but i-m beginning too. i have many drone footage to upload....i never considered those sellable but i-m too picky and hard with my work, considered the kind of footage sold in pond 5
1053
« on: January 31, 2017, 18:32 »
I think you have a very repetitive portfolio... I saw even photos that are twice in the portfolio, you should choose between the photos that are almost the same, not to put the whole photoshoot... choose the ones that can have the most sales... I think you could earn something, but clean your portfolio... i have the impression that i am looking at the same photo all over again...
not intended to be rude sorry
1054
« on: January 31, 2017, 12:54 »
this agency risk most of all that saturation of poor content will move a lot of customer to other agency...
in my opinion a real rf low cost agency with only the best quality and strong rejection policy, like restock , will rise soon to compete....i'm not a buyerr but if i were i would be scared to browse through any of the rf agency....
1055
« on: January 31, 2017, 12:23 »
1056
« on: January 31, 2017, 12:20 »
I think you have a very repetitive portfolio... I saw even photos that are twice in the portfolio, you should choose between the photos that are almost the same, not to put the whole photoshoot... choose the ones that can have the most sales... I think you could earn something, but clean your portfolio... i have the impression that i am looking at the same photo all over again...
what a mess shutter stock...really in 2008 2009 probably 3 files over 800 would have been accepted. i understand why stocksy is growing fast...what customer want browse to the mess of millions of poor quality files...
1057
« on: January 31, 2017, 12:18 »
30000 repetitive photos...10000 repetitive videos of medium low quality....then we still discuss while is difficult to sell in micro stock and why we reach 100 million....
no offence but if this portfolio video and photo earn 2500 5000 we will assist next month to submission of anybody in the world...
1058
« on: January 31, 2017, 08:32 »
in january i had a come back minor ...45 dollar earned not bd considering the last month...but i have checked practically any new file from 2015 is simply not selling.zero. probably of 2000 i have made 20 dollar....dreamtime push only very old files...tha's why very old uploader are still selling normally.
1059
« on: January 30, 2017, 20:04 »
hi
i have experienced some crushes trying to open the program with last osx..
in addiction how does it works category?
if i fill iptc data on lightroom they will appear first of all in the field on the program? thanks.
1060
« on: January 30, 2017, 13:34 »
Shutterstock, Pond5, Fotolia/Adobe Stock, 123RF, Dreamstime, Canstockphoto, Alamy, Graphicleftovers, StockFresh plus any macro/ midstock/ niche better paying sites that you fit with or fit your workflow.
I have included a couple of very low earners there (GL and SF), but they have decent RPDs/ commission shares and I consider them trustworthy, so there's no harm in uploading.
Keep well away from BS (very low RPD and a potentially testing ground for SS to see how low we will put up with), IS (very low RPD for independents and getting worse all the time plus constantly thinking of new underhand ways to screw contributors. Again, if we continue to upload there other sites will follow suit!!), DP (very low RPD, very dubious in general), Vectorstock (very low prices and also dubious)
For details of what I mean by "dubious" you will have to do a search on this forum.
well my stock earning despite all has grown steadily in the last month...i car how much i earn end of month and if they make me earning more i don't care if they sell 1 2 5 cent...microstock is about earning and of months...if i were objective i wouldn't upload to any site who give me less than 1 dollar per sale. pond5 123rf and can stock cannot even compare in three all year to one single week of stock for example and i have similar portfolio, well in stock even less files.
1061
« on: January 30, 2017, 11:57 »
Since mentioned, I must have missed them, but I'm from Serbia and decently active in photographic communities and I've yet to come across such a productions companies, look for photographers or even anyone mentioning them. There are individuals here and there and that's all.
https://www.stocksy.com/lumina
this is from serbia very good quality...i'd like to know their cost of production..i suspect very low...
in micro there are more russian and ukraine production
I don't know where my reply went, obviously not here.. Anyway, that's a legit high-end company, with that kind of quality and experience they are probably doing a lot of other stuff. But nothing in their photos seems cheap I tell you, yes rent is cheaper, models are cheaper (I don't think these guys work only with friends and people who like being photographed for free) and similar, but taxes are not cheap, creating west world lifestyle atmospheres and tech in a post socialist, post war, post bombed country is not cheap or easy, even in the capital city. Also while people work here for 200-250 euros average (at best) those photographers aren't making those photos for anything less than 1000 euros a month, minimum. I was more having on my mind kind of pseudo companies creating average photos or even spam, this is something else, this isn't cheap at all.
taxes depends on earning but believe me they are much much smaller than western country...in ukraine probably u not rich 18% maximum, in russia near, i don't know serbia but i suspect no more than 30% for very high earning. sure they earn very good money for their country....i was just saying that 1000 euro in these countries are good salary...sure u not make a luxury living but believe me u live while in europe try to live and work with a salary of 1000 euro. that's why i'm relocating in ukraine soon:))
1062
« on: January 30, 2017, 11:54 »
Since mentioned, I must have missed them, but I'm from Serbia and decently active in photographic communities and I've yet to come across such a productions companies, look for photographers or even anyone mentioning them. There are individuals here and there and that's all.
https://www.stocksy.com/lumina
this is from serbia very good quality...i'd like to know their cost of production..i suspect very low...
in micro there are more russian and ukraine production
I don't know where my reply went, obviously not here.. Anyway, that's a legit high-end company, with that kind of quality and experience they are probably doing a lot of other stuff. But nothing in their photos seems cheap I tell you, yes rent is cheaper, models are cheaper (I don't think these guys work only with friends and people who like being photographed for free) and similar, but taxes are not cheap, creating west world lifestyle atmospheres and tech in a post socialist, post war, post bombed country is not cheap or easy, even in the capital city. Also while people work here for 200-250 euros average (at best) those photographers aren't making those photos for anything less than 1000 euros a month, minimum. I was more having on my mind kind of pseudo companies creating average photos or even spam, this is something else, this isn't cheap at all.
i said it-s a good quality as stocksy agency...in micro you find similar agency with similar style also,....there a re a lot if you search for country like russia or ukraine. well most of their stuff come from ikea...model renting cheap is 80% of cost. i don-t think they will spend more than in ukraine or russia and i know how much cost a shooting like that there....believe me, no more than 300 dollar for complex situation...while in usa or italy for similar shooting you need at least 1000. and the earning are the same....or you think the photographer in western world are lazier_ if they paid 300 dollar for shooting they would shoot every day three times... in kiev with a good looking girl with already stock photography experience, photogenic, i pay no more than 50 dollar day for very experienced....location most of time, like bar restaurant shop are free, owner want simply photos, even apartment or luxury flat are free most of times for photos, they want you make some nice shot of apartment for them....try to do this in western world. they not produce millions of file because thy want work more, they simply have ridiculous cost of production.
1063
« on: January 30, 2017, 11:13 »
3 dollar in january....i don't know people who sell what kind of images had but really i never sold nothing in the 123rf....worst than can stock for me
1064
« on: January 30, 2017, 11:09 »
anyway strange sunday with 30 dollar with a 28 extend sale...good see extended again in january. good feeling fro a great february. i'm planning adding 2000 images per month. se if and how improve.
I feel its a complete waste adding new images at the moment since they will probably just disappear to the land of nobody. Once they've sorted out this buyer problem mentioned above it might be worth the effort.
i don't know it depends...i upload generic content , travel editorial etc...in last months only new content sells. after i uploaded i see some new files from last batch sells. actually i'm uploading 100 files from a big backlog i had and i'm seeing the new files most of them sells in the first week, while old not sell good, only those who are in first page in popular.
in my opinion if you stop uploading you won't sell nothing.
last week I uploaded 24 files all just vanished just gone. Friday last week I uploaded 8 files and they show. its a hit and miss affair. Prior to that no uploading for three months and I sold more then ever. There is no way of telling anymore.
in my opinion 24 8 ...this number cannot compete....i'm not judging the quality...but we are talking about 100000 every day.....persoanlly i only upload batch of minimum 100 file....they stay longer in first pages of new....to upload 8 files and hope to sell them they must be very niche photos so if you search for them they are in first page for days......if you shoot a business man talking to iPhone how long can you hope it will stay in first pages of new content?
You are missing the point and btw 2 out of these 8 have already sold and they are niched. Sales wasn't the issue here. The first 24 files just vanished thats my point. I wrote to support and still no anwer, wrote again but no answer
Dangerous uploading 100 files! with the kind of review system at SS it seems very much like Alamy the chances are if they find just one file that dont meet the technical requirements they ban the whole lot.
well my story already told ...i never upload in the good years don't know why...laziness?...good sales with a bunch of files...last years i decide to upload all the backlog...very big made of travel still life editorial etc... in the last month i uploaded a lot fo files and have a 75% acceptance rate. i never experienced a 100% refusal probably cause i never upload 100 similar files. of 100 probably just 4 5 are similar to others. today anyway is very slow. because i not uploaded nothing from friday. but i have uploaded and send to review 120 files today and 300 waiting to be sent tomorrow and next tomorrow. i want see how much will impact sales the day after the approval.
1065
« on: January 30, 2017, 09:41 »
Every day I get up and hope that today will be the day when I start to see some improvement, but it just keeps going from bad to worse.
No sales = no motivation = no point.
Shutterstock, are you taking notice of the fact that we no longer consider you to be No1? Can you do something to save us, or are your sales just as bad?
There has been talk for months on your forum about tech issues, new site features in the pipeline, etc. etc. but every change you make hits us in the back pocket. Are you just fighting fires, in an attempt jolly along old technology and to stave off a haemorrhage of buyers, or are all these changes actually what you intended?
It would be so good if someone from Shutterstock would actually say something to us, because we are all getting hoarse from shouting at a wall.
shutterstock is earning the same or more money....for a user that lose money and download other gain them.... many talk about fotolia...but i have random 2 download day....dreamstime and stock are by far even this month much better than fotolia and ss is still by far the best gainers. so shutter stock cannot do nothing for u or me....we only have to upload content.
1066
« on: January 30, 2017, 09:39 »
anyway strange sunday with 30 dollar with a 28 extend sale...good see extended again in january. good feeling fro a great february. i'm planning adding 2000 images per month. se if and how improve.
I feel its a complete waste adding new images at the moment since they will probably just disappear to the land of nobody. Once they've sorted out this buyer problem mentioned above it might be worth the effort.
i don't know it depends...i upload generic content , travel editorial etc...in last months only new content sells. after i uploaded i see some new files from last batch sells. actually i'm uploading 100 files from a big backlog i had and i'm seeing the new files most of them sells in the first week, while old not sell good, only those who are in first page in popular.
in my opinion if you stop uploading you won't sell nothing.
last week I uploaded 24 files all just vanished just gone. Friday last week I uploaded 8 files and they show. its a hit and miss affair. Prior to that no uploading for three months and I sold more then ever. There is no way of telling anymore.
in my opinion 24 8 ...this number cannot compete....i'm not judging the quality...but we are talking about 100000 every day.....persoanlly i only upload batch of minimum 100 file....they stay longer in first pages of new....to upload 8 files and hope to sell them they must be very niche photos so if you search for them they are in first page for days......if you shoot a business man talking to iPhone how long can you hope it will stay in first pages of new content?
1067
« on: January 30, 2017, 08:49 »
anyway strange sunday with 30 dollar with a 28 extend sale...good see extended again in january. good feeling fro a great february. i'm planning adding 2000 images per month. se if and how improve.
I feel its a complete waste adding new images at the moment since they will probably just disappear to the land of nobody. Once they've sorted out this buyer problem mentioned above it might be worth the effort.
i don't know it depends...i upload generic content , travel editorial etc...in last months only new content sells. after i uploaded i see some new files from last batch sells. actually i'm uploading 100 files from a big backlog i had and i'm seeing the new files most of them sells in the first week, while old not sell good, only those who are in first page in popular. in my opinion if you stop uploading you won't sell nothing.
1068
« on: January 30, 2017, 08:15 »
anyway strange sunday with 30 dollar with a 28 extend sale...good see extended again in january. good feeling fro a great february. i'm planning adding 2000 images per month. se if and how improve.
1069
« on: January 30, 2017, 07:50 »
Since mentioned, I must have missed them, but I'm from Serbia and decently active in photographic communities and I've yet to come across such a productions companies, look for photographers or even anyone mentioning them. There are individuals here and there and that's all.
https://www.stocksy.com/lumina this is from serbia very good quality...i'd like to know their cost of production..i suspect very low... in micro there are more russian and ukraine production
1070
« on: January 30, 2017, 07:47 »
Since mentioned, I must have missed them, but I'm from Serbia and decently active in photographic communities and I've yet to come across such a productions companies, look for photographers or even anyone mentioning them. There are individuals here and there and that's all.
in serbia there are some in stocksy....very big and good quality work...in micro i don't know...russia is full of user, maybe one band or more, who produce 100000 images year, mostly same stuff...for example food photography top view samples are all over and come mostly from ukraine russia, all same stuff.... ukraine is full of big company who produce from good quality to low quality...most of time they use and even buy photo from other people working for them. cost of production are so low they can upload thousand of files...there is a website database of shutter stock...of 100 millions probably one third nowadays is coming from these countries plus thailand. i don't have nothing against this, i work also in ukraine, but i just explain why we are experiencing such a growth in number of files.
1071
« on: January 29, 2017, 13:16 »
I'm an digital Illustrator (raster, no vectors) and I put a very special care on each work, so my production is slow. But in the new system the effort on search of quality is proving to be unprofitable. If the microstock agencies no longer want to offer quality, What type of client they pretend to attract. Only facebookers and bloggers?
Same here ... I'm photographer and i upload 300/400 high quality images every year ... Great income for 6 years and from July 2016 down down down ...
From 2004 to 2015 Shutterstock has 100.000 active contributors (avg 10.000 every years) ... in 2016 64000 new contributors, but perhaps 55.000 have only crappy illustration or snapshot photos ... see the "new search" ... what buyers download this low quality works ? I upload to 10 agencies an
d the worst performance in 2016 compared to 2015 is from SS.
more and more will join....in "secret country" where i live the salary medium is u know how much? i tell you 200 dollar with current exchange...there are people working at mcdonald for example who earn120 dollar right now....so for an "*" guy,...uploading tons of photos for free and earn 300 400 dollar is still a lot of money compared to people working at mcdonald or bar or supermarket or shop..... that's why you see so many photographer joining micro or this country...it's cheap,...cost are very low...people love being photographed for free for example, so plenty of model available for free...there are big studio who cost nothing...i pay 8 dollar hours.. so a shoot with model start from 20 to 100 dollar ....same shooting in western world cost 1000 minimum. u see the difference?
1072
« on: January 29, 2017, 13:11 »
micro is quantity...always been...those who consider micro quality has never browsed an high end rm agency like aurora or gallery stock....stocksy with 5 dollar rf has a very good quality, much better and more artistic than micro.
so yes to survive u need to upload lot of different content, niche don't work or only extremely niche photos.....this is micro now...stop complaining and work...if not close your account so there is more money for us....
i have micro rm( alamy) rm high end files...i always believed differentiation worked well...probably i would have earned a lot more with some files, had i uploaded them to micro instead of an RM HIGH END AGENCy, but right now i have built a good portfolio who earn me much more than micro.
if you shoot micro for a living you need to produce a lot, have low cost and live in a poor country.
1073
« on: January 29, 2017, 13:07 »
I'm an digital Illustrator (raster, no vectors) and I put a very special care on each work, so my production is slow. But in the new system the effort on search of quality is proving to be unprofitable. If the microstock agencies no longer want to offer quality, What type of client they pretend to attract. Only facebookers and bloggers?
I'm not much of an illustrator but with what I do and photography, I'd say you're right. The point of return for models or planned more expensive shoots has passed, for most of us. Expense is outdistancing income or returns. Somebody from long ago, calls it Micropayment Photography. That's the micro and the idea was make up the low pay with volume.
Volume is down, payment is mostly lower by lower commissions, SS has held that up at least. But others dropped commissions and earnings money, dropped commissions, while sales dropped. SS sales have dropped and I don't think it's just old people or the search or any specific group. It's all of us because of competition, not quality. And all of us because of numbers instead of quality.
We can't make up the low pay with sales volume anymore. We can't beat the competition with quality anymore. Agencies don't pay us what they used to either. I don't think the search caused all this, I think the whole state and condition of Microstock is the cause.
most of shooters new who shoot people come from russia and ukraine...very big production house work there ....and a lot thousand of single photographer...you know why? i go in these country every year...there is an abundance of model...beautiful people who want just stop or cost very low money...in ukraine for a day of shooting you pay like 50 dollar one model....in russia similar...and they are natural looking model clearly not model from agency top, but micro don't need this model anyway.....location are practically zero cost...or very low...so if you want do micro u need to move in a country like this...that's why most of new files come from there....
1074
« on: January 28, 2017, 15:34 »
people, life style, travel, food, vector /illustrations, videos, etc. I diversed long time ago, but the rot is setting in
ok.
1075
« on: January 28, 2017, 14:59 »
jonbull, still uploading
yada, yes more competition, but my sales are plunging faster than ever before.
what kind of files? stil life , food people travel?
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