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General Stock Discussion / Re: Getty sold a 65K $ image !
« on: February 28, 2010, 18:20 »
That's the point and the lesson to learn from that elephant photo.

Fine. End next week I'll go to Cloud 9, the surfing paradise on Siargao Island not too far away and take some background shots of surfers and waves. Next, I'll shoot everything I find on 4 legs, photoshop it in and sell it for 0.65$.  ;D
Welcome to stock. (this is no joke)

Exactly.....that .65 would not possible without photoshop and the digital camera and vacation time..

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It basically all boils down to reputation. There is competition in every business in one form or another.

Like I said it boils down to reputation. If you have to many rotten apples then more than likely it is because you are overstocked because either 1) You aren't selling them because you are known to sell rotten apples and people just don't eat them anymore or 2) they are driving 100 or more miles to buy them from someone else...simply because of your reputation...therefore you have competition. If you already had a good reputation you wouldn't have the problem of people going somewhere else to begin with even if the apples were cheeper.

As for microstock...most quality buyers go to iStock...they have the better reputation and the better supply. The buyer pays more for the better quality and as many of you have always been said...iStock makes more photographers money than most other agencies on average, including myself. Now if you are losing sales it would be because better products are coming into the market and the buyers requirements for type and quality have changed.

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I think what deyu16 is trying to say is that if there was not competition....the product would not be as good. Like the apple stand for example...if you were the only vender...you could stick rotten apples in there as well as good ones if there is not competition. The other apple vender may have bought those rotten apples and decided he got tired of it and will sell better apples. The customer is going to go where the supply is better. Competition makes suppliers create better products which I will agree would be ""better for buyers"" unless you were one of those suppliers who strove to create the better product, therefore you would sell more because of this. It basically all boils down to reputation. There is competition in every business in one form or another.

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General Stock Discussion / Re: Yuri admits he's losing money !
« on: February 28, 2010, 13:00 »
Remember the saying..."All good things must come to an end"

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A good question would be how many actually make a full time living off of microstock. Dollar amounts are not necessarily an indication of success. It all depends on what part of the world or country you live in. In many parts of the world, the cost of living is much less than in other parts so some photographers would be able to live off much lower numbers.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: everything in the world is copyrighted
« on: February 27, 2010, 22:25 »
The interesting question to me, now, is - could I get it approved if I told them otherwise?  I'm guessing not.


I think you are probably guessing right.

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Off Topic / Re: Going to be gone for a bit
« on: February 27, 2010, 21:22 »
go have some fun...you deserve it ;)

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: everything in the world is copyrighted
« on: February 27, 2010, 21:20 »
Here's the free pattern on that patent. Maybe they should be in trouble for copyright infringement.... :D

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: everything in the world is copyrighted
« on: February 27, 2010, 20:25 »
Yes, someone, somewhere, has a copyright on the sock monkey, or at least the pattern for making one (and I didn't photograph the pattern).  That was my point.  Just about any product with style - be it a toy, an article of clothing,  a car or a pipe wrench - was 'designed' and may have some sort of copyright on it, and could be recognized in a photo -at least by its designer.  Office furniture.  Tableware. Even the layout of a circuit board is intellectual property.  Say doesn't the teddy bear in that shot look awfully like Pooh...?

The absence of logos is no longer enough to assuage the fears of IS's lawyers.  


My reading of this Wikipedia article is that the 'sock monkey' appeared by1932 or possibly earlier.  In 1955 the Nelson Knitting Company (sockmonkey.com) was awarded a patent on the pattern for making a sock monkey. There is no mention of a copyright on the design:

   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sock_monkey

I believe the patent on it would be the copyright. Patents are in place so people can't copycat a product and claim it as their own. Now I'm not sure how that works with images but I'd assume that would be copyright infringement.

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Off Topic / Re: Earthquake in Chile
« on: February 27, 2010, 20:19 »
They said it was a 8.8 on the rector scale.
We had a rector at a preppy Jesuit high school, but his name wasn't father Richter.  ;)

Whoops....that should have been rictor.....my spelling never has been that great and age doesn't help matters any. My math isn't much better.. ;)

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Off Topic / Re: Earthquake in Chile
« on: February 27, 2010, 18:35 »
Oh not again...I just heard. They said it was a 8.8 on the rector scale. It's the 5th worse earthquake since 1900. The biggest quake recorded since 1900 hit the coast of southern Chile on May 22, 1960. The 9.5-magnitude quake killed more than 1,600 and left about 2 million people homeless.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: everything in the world is copyrighted
« on: February 27, 2010, 18:01 »
The really aggravating thing is that months ago they were accepting shots of mine which weren't as good as these - my isolation techniques have improved.  I can do most of it photographically now.

In one case there was no feathering or hand isolation done at all.  I'm clueless on that one.
I've gotten some of those too which were well deserved, but some were not and it seems if the isolated product has a rough texture to it they call it noise...if it has a furry type texture on the outer edges they call it bad isolation. I don't even mess with resubmitting those.

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General Stock Discussion / Re: Yuri admits he's losing money !
« on: February 27, 2010, 15:32 »
I agree he has more competition now than he ever did before, but it's very possible the style of his shooting is wearing off. To much of the same ol same ol. Who knows.

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General Stock Discussion / Re: Yuri admits he's losing money !
« on: February 27, 2010, 13:07 »
That's kinda a scary observation by Yuri. But I think we all knew it was coming. The question is what can we do about it.

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Dreamstime.com / Re: Incorrect keywords DT
« on: February 27, 2010, 11:50 »
How do you know that you've been flagged? Do they e-mail you or is it posted on the site?
You will get a comment on the image. The problem is that for flagging, the comment reporting was off by at least a year till recently, so you had no choice to reply in time.

Would it be a wise idea to go in and edit the keywords on those antique images? I use to put "landscape/horizontal" for direction and "color/black and white" for type of image. I know alot of the early ones have those keywords in them. I don't do that any more and haven't for awhile so wonder if it wouldn't be a wise idea to do it before they do get flagged.

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Dreamstime.com / Re: Incorrect keywords DT
« on: February 26, 2010, 22:09 »
How do you know that you've been flagged? Do they e-mail you or is it posted on the site?

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: showing diversity to istock
« on: February 26, 2010, 19:49 »
I agree with Lisafx....the first and last photos are a little less fashion. The ones in the center probably wouldn't make it....besides they would reject them for the vender's names being posted with out a property realease. Do you have any landscape or even say food shots??

Oh and I think your skills are excellent and really do love the shots.

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I have never been able to figure out what exactly Fotolia wants. Just when I think I have, I am proved wrong again. As for 123RF....I think the only word in their vocabulary is "poor lighting/composition"

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General - Top Sites / Re: Oh no, please! Not Canstock!
« on: February 26, 2010, 18:16 »
My last 19.80 at CanStockPhoto was in July. Since then, few sales, small values (up to US$1 only).

Added: apart from the 19.80 sales, there is no single month that CanStockPhoto delivered me more than BigStock. In total I've made at BigStock about 2.4x what I got in CanStockPhoto.

Same here...I've always made more at BigStock than Canstock. Canstock is a very low earner for me.

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Ok, I uploaded 6 images.

Shutterstock accepted 5 and rejected 1 image for poor quality, and Fotolia rejected the same 5 that Shutterstock accepted and accepted the same 1 image Shutterstock rejected, again for poor quality.

I know reviewers are human beings, but.... it seems some standards should be reviewed first. :)

Thats the problem I have with Fotolia. They always reject the ones that all the other's accept and accept the ones they reject. No wonder I don't do any good there..

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I just got a bunch approved and was paid for them. Maybe you need to contact support and find out what the deal is. I've not gotten an e-mail message from them.

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New Sites - General / Re: Fstockphotos
« on: February 26, 2010, 13:03 »
Wonder what the "F" means if you get my drift... ;)

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I just want to clarify things that I should have done when I originally posted and I apologize for that. The bashing that was going on, was not directed at me, but some others on the forum. As most of you have pointed out, this is the best forum to partake in and that is very true thanks to Leaf. He has done a great job. I have also been to the other forums and know what it is like there. They are not the friendliest places. That was the point I was trying to make. I just dont want this forum to turn out like those and that is my main concern. The majority of people on here are considerate. Like I said before Im not going to single out people and point fingers here. That is a lot of the problem that I was referring to. I didnt post to provoke people....even though it seems like that is what I  have done. I just felt these problems need to be addressed and I hope you understand that.

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123RF / Re: Earnings discrepancies
« on: February 25, 2010, 18:24 »
Hopefully it will go up because I only got $12.00 on there and that's where I've been stuck at.

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Photo Critique / Re: rejected for logo, but which one?
« on: February 25, 2010, 17:48 »
Both.

You need to remove all logos and non-generic* text from images -- sorry!

*You can probably keep the generic "6 lbs", unless you get an over-eager reviewer who thinks all text is forbidden.
Yes like KB said. Both...they don't like anything to appear that might have a copyright. You gotta edit them out. Great shot.

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