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iStockPhoto.com / Re: iStock Royalty Change
« on: November 24, 2016, 17:16 »
i believe for sure just i not experienced any sale like this....maybe i shoot more travel images...maybe i sell less but sell for better price. i sell mostly crediti in stock fotolia andd shutter. maybe is what i shot.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: iStock Royalty Change
« on: November 24, 2016, 16:57 »
so far i haven't seen any of this 0,02....even when people see a lot of 0,1 0,06 i never saw nothing less than 0,28....
now i'm ready for 0,15m as minimum...o will upload less....also stock review seems a lot slow with non exclusive.... and see.
if i begin 0,02 simply i will leave my image there and not upload nothing more. very simple.
petition and useless fight are time consuming and will not end to nothing.
i see fotolia increasing a lot their sale and shutter stock recovering in the last 2 months...strangely i have my best month in stock from a long time. i repeat till they grow my per month income i will upload if not bye bye.
in my opinion they are simply moving their effort to exclusive contributor.
You will get $0.02 when they make the change and if you leave your images there, it will only get worse.  They presume a lot of people wont bother leaving and they have been right until now.  The problem is, why would other sites pay us more if we tolerate $0.02 with istock?  Staying with them is going to cost you a lot of money.  I remember saying this when they cut below 20% and I was right.  Shutterstock used to give us a raise every year and that stopped.  BigStock, I23RF and other sites have cut the amount they pay us or made it impossible to reach the levels we used to get paid.  At some point, contributors have to take action or we will see all the sites paying us less until there's no point in uploading.

let's see what happened.
clearly this company don't know nothing about business...i remember when shutter stock change price making the buy of extended license redundant and expensive...my extends license are fallen down since then...now this....luckily the dollar is getting stronger...so i will earn more euro:=

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: iStock Royalty Change
« on: November 24, 2016, 16:50 »
I have some good shots in micro and earn money thanks to a lot of subs and shutter S.O licences or some fotolia credit sales or low images pack.

With Istock changes is very easy earnd 0.06...0.12...0,03...this is crazy low...even for stupid isolated apple in white and the worst is that i cant erase good microstock photos to send for other sites.

john bull i have good photos in offset and is not only about quality, a lot of quality images are rejected by them:  is necesary some "realistic style"  (plainpicture-stocksy-offset style and we musnt forget that plainpicture was the first) There is a lot of great photos in microstock and only work with high subs percentaje and some single sales. With 0.12-004--0.09 only work for youtube views.

well for me micro stock has tons of well made images but not very beautiful....i always browse agency for inspiration and to see what sell...in offset stocks i could browse forever, micro stock is os boring fo a lot of theme, landscape and travel are all oversaturated, i think most shooters use canon:).

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: iStock Royalty Change
« on: November 24, 2016, 16:40 »
personally where does the 0,02 come from? the 15% rate of one dollar is 0,15....now i earn 0,25...they sell images at 9 cent?
good for them.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: iStock Royalty Change
« on: November 24, 2016, 16:38 »
so far i haven't seen any of this 0,02....even when people see a lot of 0,1 0,06 i never saw nothing less than 0,28....
now i'm ready for 0,15m as minimum...o will upload less....also stock review seems a lot slow with non exclusive.... and see.
if i begin 0,02 simply i will leave my image there and not upload nothing more. very simple.
petition and useless fight are time consuming and will not end to nothing.
i see fotolia increasing a lot their sale and shutter stock recovering in the last 2 months...strangely i have my best month in stock from a long time. i repeat till they grow my per month income i will upload if not bye bye.
in my opinion they are simply moving their effort to exclusive contributor.
You will get $0.02 when they make the change and if you leave your images there, it will only get worse.  They presume a lot of people wont bother leaving and they have been right until now.  The problem is, why would other sites pay us more if we tolerate $0.02 with istock?  Staying with them is going to cost you a lot of money.  I remember saying this when they cut below 20% and I was right.  Shutterstock used to give us a raise every year and that stopped.  BigStock, I23RF and other sites have cut the amount they pay us or made it impossible to reach the levels we used to get paid.  At some point, contributors have to take action or we will see all the sites paying us less until there's no point in uploading.

at some point luckily most of these company will fail...and most of those who shoot pet and cheap still life will see their portfolio erased and luckily new company will not follow the step of the ancient micro....

luckily will see a growth of company who cares more about quality.
but it's a dream,.

clearly if what i will earn from an image is 0,02 i will not upload nothing more. if many will stop uploading they will see a lost in content.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: iStock Royalty Change
« on: November 24, 2016, 16:35 »
150000 files as a backlog in a hard disk... amazing story

However, i hardly can imaging how uploading files (at any places) will even cover costs for keyword & upload time
unless they are specific produced concepts in high demand

clearly i expect from 150000 10% of sellable images, of those 2,3% will go to rm and offset...the rest to micro.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: iStock Royalty Change
« on: November 24, 2016, 16:34 »
150000 files as a backlog in a hard disk... amazing story

However, i hardly can imaging how uploading files (at any places) will even cover costs for keyword & upload time
unless they are specific produced concepts in high demand

amazing story of how stupid i was:)...i began micro in the early time when if i had uploaded constantly i probably would have saved a lot of money....but i was lazy and really not interested.
i begin shooting model last month :))...
anyway let's see the results. clearly of 150000 images a lot will go to trash. in practice i don't buu...ll..it..but i have 5 6 trip in the world who i have not even fully reviewed:))...let's say better late than never

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: iStock Royalty Change
« on: November 24, 2016, 12:56 »
0,01?

i don't believe sorry.
i repeat bio trace in my account of anything less than 0,25...even  from partner program.
i expect 0,15 minimum. anyway i always smell more with credits than sub.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: iStock Royalty Change
« on: November 24, 2016, 12:55 »
so far i haven't seen any of this 0,02....even when people see a lot of 0,1 0,06 i never saw nothing less than 0,28....
now i'm ready for 0,15m as minimum...o will upload less....also stock review seems a lot slow with non exclusive.... and see.
if i begin 0,02 simply i will leave my image there and not upload nothing more. very simple.
petition and useless fight are time consuming and will not end to nothing.
i see fotolia increasing a lot their sale and shutter stock recovering in the last 2 months...strangely i have my best month in stock from a long time. i repeat till they grow my per month income i will upload if not bye bye.
in my opinion they are simply moving their effort to exclusive contributor.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: iStock Royalty Change
« on: November 24, 2016, 11:55 »
we accepted micro stock many years ago because it was easy and good money even with poor, for nowadays standard, quality photos.
we accepted 0,2, 0,3 for photo and now complaint that they cut at 0,15.
personally i don't care, micro stock is the lower end of my production, photo that will be buried in hard disk , or i will never use for nothing. i will upload the more i can, micro stock for me is only about quantity, the more images you have the more u earn...
personally i grow all portfolio in any site in the last 4 months, cleaning a massive backlog of more than 150000 files who stupidly i kept in my hard disk without selling them when was the timer making good money. anyway i see a trend of growing. the fact that an agency cut my rates doesn't bother me, i learnt that in micro what counts is the number at the end of months. till it grows i upload.

serious photography goes to offset, and other agency where a customer want buy good quality and pay for them.

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Shutterstock.com / Re: Quarterly results
« on: November 05, 2016, 16:15 »
last month i did and begin shooting with model. i never did this for micro but gave it a shot.
i produced good content and uploaded with multiple platform.

then i went and simulate some searches with keyword related to these images
fotolia istock showed good relation and my images showed as new in the first pages...in shutter stock the first three pages were full of images not related to the keywords...and couldn't find my images there.
now i understand why all my best still sell everyday but new and better stuff not sell at all or in limited amount.

irrelevant keyword and image spamming is killing shutter stock.

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Shutterstock.com / Re: Quarterly results
« on: November 04, 2016, 07:53 »
as somebody said this industry will begin just a hobby for 99% and only big producers with low cost ( soietic union thailand and some other country with cheap model cheap cost of production) and some lucky who found a niche ( but what is a niche in micro stock?)....microstock for me will be a good sideline to earn more money but if i had to trust this to make a living out of photography i would have already chosen another path.
and it will be worst and worst.
the more i upload, better content for sure than in past, the earning seems stall at the same level. they not moving from that level in any site. probably i am wrong with keyword or i don't know what to think....but when i re people with 500 600 images earning thousand of dollar it makes me think a lot.

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Shutterstock.com / Re: New content sale stopped?
« on: September 16, 2016, 10:29 »
Problem is that any uploading of new files is a waste. Once files have been in micro they are "locked" no rights or Royalty-free macro agency wants them and you can't supply micro images to a staunch macro agency since it could lead to all sorts of troubles.

Right now there is hardly any exposure or promotion of new files and I really don't understand the SS game on this one.

you can sell rf in both micro and macro, if macro don't do exclusivity in photos, alamy for example.
personally i find every image has its position in the market. no way i will provide rf with images i consider to have something unique...my best portfolio go to off set alamy and 2 3 other agency, included my best editorial photos that goes to reduxpictures.
In micro i put good image but i not consider them unique or having somethings interesting a customer could buy as rm.
thanks to this strategy i keep good earning in rm that compensate the fall in rf. i'm sure if i had put all images in rf i would have seen my earnings completely falling down.
it's economic laws at the end.

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Shutterstock.com / Re: New content sale stopped?
« on: September 14, 2016, 05:08 »
off topic...

can anybody explain the adobe deal? i don't understand the difference between fotolia and adobe now...

adobe has also a premium service...

how one can apply to adobe only content?

thanks
In practical terms for contributors there is no difference....expect the Fotolia brand to dissapear at some point

thanks a lot.
i wanted apply for premium category but i'm more interested in applying for offset

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Shutterstock.com / Re: New content sale stopped?
« on: September 14, 2016, 05:07 »
5,38 dollar from monday...!!!!! unbelievable ...even can stock beat shutter stock for me....i don't know what they did but they did a mess....only some popular image sold and very old...is it worth uploading new content?
maybe they have some software problem. i cannot believe they messed so much.

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Shutterstock.com / Re: New content sale stopped?
« on: September 13, 2016, 11:04 »
off topic...

can anybody explain the adobe deal? i don't understand the difference between fotolia and adobe now...

adobe has also a premium service...

how one can apply to adobe only content?

thanks


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Shutterstock.com / Re: New content sale stopped?
« on: September 13, 2016, 11:02 »
that explain the falling down of september....8 content sold from sunday to today....never had anything like this..and i'm uploading much more....

luckily rm in big sites and stock and dreamstime are improving this month and last month.
i will focus much more on rm in next moth. micro stock for what i do, mostly travel and reportage, is totally useless at this time. One million images add any week..thousand of photographer accepted...for what?
agency must sit down and start realizing that this will only decrease the quality of their portfolio and create more problem than benefit to customer who don't want 1000000 photos of tomato in white,m or 40000 of colosseum.

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Photo Critique / Re: Stocksy rejection-need your opinion
« on: April 14, 2016, 06:39 »
i don't want to be critic but all this portfolio looks really the same...pale skin tones, same pose same color...i mean stocks is full of this style, flickr is full especially russian artist, 500 px is full....when i read " my style"....im not harsh but this is the style of everybody in instagram, in any hipsy stock agency.. i don't see nothing original. they are good done but nothing creative. anybody really can do this in any corner of the world right now.


I can agree with some things you said, but keep in mind that I'm still young and new in photography, so my current goal is to master all technical stuff first (lightning-pre and post production, photo montage, combination of photo and cgi etc), so there will be time for other things, but first things first.
And this is where I can't agree with you, because not anybody can do this, and there are actually small number of people who mastered all those skills.

http://www.jelenabalic.com/beauty - This girl is example of how I see my work will be in a few years...  (yes it's fashion, beauty and commercial but I like it and it's not easy as you think)

So we're gone too far.. I just wanted to put my other work somewhere and... something that I do when I'm walking down the streets, or travel, or catching random moments with my friends... because I'm aways photographing something. That's why I'm here asking for your thoughts and thanks to everyone who shared their opinion :)

Ps. I don't know how you managed to put together so called "russian" style and hipsy - totally different styles.


last i add that the secret what makes a photographer really stand is the master of shadow and light, even in beauty. that makes tridimensional. beauty shot like the one you show are these days too common,. one beauty dish, maybe a reflector, tons of pp to smooth skin and color..

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Photo Critique / Re: Stocksy rejection-need your opinion
« on: April 14, 2016, 06:37 »
i don't want to be critic but all this portfolio looks really the same...pale skin tones, same pose same color...i mean stocks is full of this style, flickr is full especially russian artist, 500 px is full....when i read " my style"....im not harsh but this is the style of everybody in instagram, in any hipsy stock agency.. i don't see nothing original. they are good done but nothing creative. anybody really can do this in any corner of the world right now.


I can agree with some things you said, but keep in mind that I'm still young and new in photography, so my current goal is to master all technical stuff first (lightning-pre and post production, photo montage, combination of photo and cgi etc), so there will be time for other things, but first things first.
And this is where I can't agree with you, because not anybody can do this, and there are actually small number of people who mastered all those skills.

http://www.jelenabalic.com/beauty - This girl is example of how I see my work will be in a few years...  (yes it's fashion, beauty and commercial but I like it and it's not easy as you think)

So we're gone too far.. I just wanted to put my other work somewhere and... something that I do when I'm walking down the streets, or travel, or catching random moments with my friends... because I'm aways photographing something. That's why I'm here asking for your thoughts and thanks to everyone who shared their opinion :)

Ps. I don't know how you managed to put together so called "russian" style and hipsy - totally different styles.


i mean russian to say eastern eruope...microstock is overflown by russsian and ukrainian photographer.
as far as that photographer from croatia, she's good but nothing i 'd say ..wow...nothing could be easier to replicate.
for me beati shots must be creative, tridimensional.

http://art-dept.com/photography

take for example this book of beauty

http://art-dept.com/photography/arthur-belebeau/beauty/viewall

can't u see the difference?

i suggest you aim to that level.-

N.B: the fashion book of that carotin photo are better than beauty and really pop because of color. probably most of those shots wouldn't have been accepted by stocks.

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Photo Critique / Re: Stocksy rejection-need your opinion
« on: April 14, 2016, 06:28 »
i don't want to be critic but all this portfolio looks really the same...pale skin tones, same pose same color...i mean stocks is full of this style, flickr is full especially russian artist, 500 px is full....when i read " my style"....im not harsh but this is the style of everybody in instagram, in any hipsy stock agency.. i don't see nothing original. they are good done but nothing creative. anybody really can do this in any corner of the world right now.


I can agree with some things you said, but keep in mind that I'm still young and new in photography, so my current goal is to master all technical stuff first (lightning-pre and post production, photo montage, combination of photo and cgi etc), so there will be time for other things, but first things first.
And this is where I can't agree with you, because not anybody can do this, and there are actually small number of people who mastered all those skills.

http://www.jelenabalic.com/beauty - This girl is example of how I see my work will be in a few years...  (yes it's fashion, beauty and commercial but I like it and it's not easy as you think)

So we're gone too far.. I just wanted to put my other work somewhere and... something that I do when I'm walking down the streets, or travel, or catching random moments with my friends... because I'm aways photographing something. That's why I'm here asking for your thoughts and thanks to everyone who shared their opinion :)

Ps. I don't know how you managed to put together so called "russian" style and hipsy - totally different styles.


don't wanted to sound ruse, you are very good photographer and has a clearly a good tendency to shoot girl....your photos are well done, but what i'm saying is that there is an overflow of this style in every website, stocks being the last.
especially from eastern europe and balkans. what i 'm saying is there is such a market in the world to fulfill the economical need s of all those people?
i live often in kiev and i know hundred of young people with portfolio like yours. in eastern part of europe building such portfolio is pretty easy. in my opinion you are good should go for more direct approach to your field, beauty and  fashion. but with more complex lighting scheme and pose.

in addiction you said you want relocate...but where? pay attention that big cities are full  of photographer. i suggest u go asia right now to have chance.
looking the girl you posted the link, she's clearly good but looking her publication she has local success, most of time this success come for personal preference not skill...had she gone to milan for example i doubt she would have chance to shoot fro grazia or elle italy for example. so even relocation right now is very complex. i don't know how big is your city and what opportunity u have but maybe just going to capital of your country could be a good idea.

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Photo Critique / Re: Stocksy rejection-need your opinion
« on: April 13, 2016, 15:00 »
i don't want to be critic but all this portfolio looks really the same...pale skin tones, same pose same color...i mean stocks is full of this style, flickr is full especially russian artist, 500 px is full....when i read " my style"....im not harsh but this is the style of everybody in instagram, in any hipsy stock agency.. i don't see nothing original. they are good done but nothing creative. anybody really can do this in any corner of the world right now.

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Photo Critique / Re: Stocksy rejection-need your opinion
« on: April 13, 2016, 14:53 »
The answer is simple: your images are too good for them.  These are correctly exposed, correctly lighted, nice images. Really nice images!
Good images are boring for them. They already have some... so now they need trendy, surprising, spontaneously taken images. Different looking images. Much worse images then yours. Buy an iphone  and forget about lighting and composition and they will let you in. At least this is my impression while I am browsing Stocksy.

agree...i wanted to apply , but I'm mostly editorial and travel and don't see they will need me, my goal right now are mopstrlfy enter off set and gallery stock for rm, then i'm done considering that i am also with alamy for rm and i'm a contributor at redux pictures for editorial serious photography.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: Are the good time gone forever?
« on: April 10, 2016, 07:01 »
The photography portfolios are mostly decent micro portfolios. I have seen much worse snap shots on Alamy. At a minimum micros have some kind of handle on technical quality.

The owners probably make very decent money, if you want unique or original you need to be shopping RM.

yes medium quality..the girl better..but some terrible...they man decent money for sure for their country...but i checked some of their account in dreamtime and stock..they don't feel so much even with so many images...luckily they don't travel a lot and have mostly food ( cheap to make everywhere...buyt some studio chinese stuff u are done)..and people ( mostly nude beautiful girl and baby)...and some object with concept heavily copied or lack of originality...some belarusian are better...more creative...ukraine and russia and thailand are copy land.
luckily i do mostly other stuff so not a lot of competition. i will move to a country like this for 4 months and produce some big number in the near future. where i live to produce a good photo shooting is at the moment too costly.
rm are much better but i see also in rf there are interest for good photo. i sold 100 dollar yesterday in crestock:)...in ss i am selling a lot of 34 and more dollar in the last week.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: Are the good time gone forever?
« on: April 10, 2016, 06:42 »
Two of the three illustrators' portfolios you link to are absolutely terrible. I wont say which ones, but I am shocked by what SS is accepting now. Some of the photographers are very good though.

photo good?

oh god, this are the most amateur portfolio i have ever seen...i understand why big customer buy from rm agency,...look food photo in alamy, or other big rm agency. this guy probably use even other photographer to shoot everything they have around.
we must see what they sell and how much earn, but being often in ukriane i'd say that this guy can earn very good money for living there.  10 photographer account for more than 5 percent of all photo fun ss...unbielevabel

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: Are the good time gone forever?
« on: April 09, 2016, 14:30 »
it's interesting to notice that while file grow very big....like 10 million month in may agency...most are scammers file, series practically similar, and most of all design...photo are less...so for good photographers there is still a lot of space to move. the problem is designer....you know how much cost of the work of a good designer in ukraine?
 maybe somebody with 500 dollar can pay the work of a designer, add 2 or 3 and you have a mass production for cheap money.

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