when u think micro is lost i add a big sales 110 dollar in restock, where probably i stop uploading 3 years ago and have only 200 image:...aso gunny..

i plan to upload a lot this year, have a bulk of images ready.

about ukraine russia...i wrote many times. production cost in this city are the cheapest in the world....i talk about ukraine...studio? probably 20 euro a day...model? the level of beauty and talento in soviet counties is unlimited...everuy girl is photogenic and ready to pose in 5 minutes...often for free, just the experience of studio make up and free photos is for many girl impossible to refuse...

Quote from: cathyslife on April 07, 2016, 08:24

Quote from: Holmes on April 04, 2016, 20:03

Peter -- I think the FAA might want a word with you!! LOL!

Long lens or not, flying a drone anywhere near an airplane or anywhere near the controlled airspace, especially an airplane that looks like it is landing, is just wrong and is endangering the lives of others. For what...to get a cool shot and make a few $$? Seriously? The shot is taken straight down, so a camera would have had to have been mounted on the bottom of the aircraft taking the shot. Possibly.

Hopefully the image is just a good photoshop job.

@jonbull and @cathyslife, I can only reiterate at this point. It was taken from a plane, a piloted aircraft, under the control of an ATC. Not a drone. I'm a pilot myself with a commercial license. Assuming I get the appropriate clearance, today, in about 3 hours I will fly over YVR and all its landing jets. Depending on the active runway this will place me in a couple of different spots but in all cases I will at right angles to the active runways and will be listening very carefully to what ATC tells me to do. Separations are well thought out, really well, and everyone does their part to make sure they are adhered to. It really is okay for that plane to be there. I wish I could take you both for a ride today. You'd have a very nice time, take some great pictures, and see how Air Traffic Control handles their work in congested flight areas. Not just from the back seat. I'll even let you fly if you want, just not over YVR.

PS. The EXIF data on that shot would indicate the need for a HUGE drone to carry that camera lens combo. I mean huge.

what combo is?
this phot can be taken by a drone or copter without window...it's pointing straight down....no way an ultralightyou can take this photos....copter flying like this near an airplane landing? no way...this is drone...a dii s1000 can take up to 5 kilos....so  any dslr can be easily fitted....the s1000 so will weight 10 kilo, if it fall down and hit the plane good luck.
in my opinion if far see this photo you can have trouble. you cannot believe me but i will never show a photo like this on a business website if i don't have all the document needed.

Peter -- I think the FAA might want a word with you!! LOL!

i doubt it was an airplane...those who fly airplane know paths...it was hundred per cent a drone...considering the height the plane was landing and i don't think airplane used for photos can fly like this near a commercial airline....if it's  drone i suggest u remove it u can get a big trouble...

Quote from: Jo Ann Snover on April 01, 2016, 22:12

Quote from: Shelma1 on March 29, 2016, 11:02

SS is clearly reaching out to image factories and offering to upload all their images for them. (I've noticed a new trend at SS: When I do have images that catch on, they sell well for about a week and then suddenly stop. When I search for them, I see that my images and those of popular "older" contributors have been pushed off the front page by a flood of simple icon-like vectors from contributors who joined in 2015.)

I don't think this one has been mentioned before - over 34,000 near duplicates

http://www.shutterstock.com/portfolio/search.mhtml?gallery_id=2223479&page=1&safesearch=1&sort_method=newest

SS is now at 81,122,094 total - what metric for which investor is driving this bizarre pollution?

Clearly, not all artists are created equal. Shouldn't those all be combined into one file?  (similar policy)

ss is the worst for reviewing...they will refuse any creativity...send the a panned sport photos and they will refuse for motion blur:)....they are the most boring agency, from this side stock is much better accepting even cross processes black and white...not perfect but beautiful photos, aka stocks style....SS is a kille of originality, i see this in my last 4 5 batches....then saw the millions of terrible photos accepted.
I'd say that if you shoot only for ss you will become soon a poor photographer technically and emotionally.
but ss sold much more than any other agency.

completely useless...and it hurts only sale of the who do mostly editorial here...that's why in 5 days april oi saw a decline after a good march.

that's why they are refusing a lot of editorial photos now, while adding junk poorly made isolated white s...t......

what a mess micro stock. hope to be profitable in RM this year so tho exist completely from this mess. with the hope that even rf agency fail miserably. it's our fault obviously from beginning, but i think nobody ever thought a mess like this could be possible.

he wrote been a month in ss...he probably signed in 2006 and uploaded only now...anyway after this post he uploaded 1200 images...poor white isolated images. probably  one two shot made in a bunch of hour.
and he said he made 60 dollar. for me is doing super with this portfolio and if this is what buyer want, so i' will begin doing isolated white.

i repeat since those isolation would have been rejected easily.

from such a portfolio even made 3 5 dollar day for me is a miracle and show some interesting topic

- most buyer simply buy the first photos they find....if they need a white isolated subject, yours are full of flaws, compared to much better white..but somebody bought yours...just to work on them after to correct everything. considering that search highlight mostly new photos that's why your have sold.

- now 3200 images...in 10 days an amateur added 1000 images....pratctially the same topic repeated infinity. it's the bulk of the million images added every week in ss, poor photos. if i see some of my rejection i really ama amazed that they accepted even 5% of your portfolio.

- what i said in the worst month ever thread is justified by you. adding photos daily in big number is the only way to earn right now. cause search criteria help new images. if even 2000 poor isolated images can give 100 150 dollar per month, 15000 good images can still give big money. i see this trend also with my experiment.

- microstock is really the last tyre of world photography.

I just put my request in to DT to drop me as an exclusive contributor.  I'm planning to fire the operation back up and start shooting new photo and video footage, but to make it even remotely possible to make money on it,  I'm going to have to join SS and IS and upload there as well.  In addition, going forward, I plan to do some shoots and retain the whole of those in my own personal library of images, which will not be made available to any of these agencies, and will be available only through direct licensing with me.  Still waiting on DT to come through with my request but it has only been since Thursday (Feb 25th).......

totally useless....another contributor? 1 million images week added...we need other contributor in ss and is? i hope sorry for you they stop adding contributor...is completely useless

Quote from: jonbull on February 24, 2016, 10:26

Quote from: ShadySue on February 24, 2016, 09:58

When micro started, it was mostly 'amateurs' who were submitting, it's not a 'now' thing. In fact, iS started as a sharing site, with no money changing hands.

yes but after you see complex shooting, interesting images...now  i see only boring images...look for example food...then go to alma or offset and look the food images. you see what i mean. amateur.

The sites pushed up the quality for a while, but most didn't try to raise prices, so it became unsustainable, and many of the pros have moved on.
Really, what can people reasonably expect for the price?

it's what i'm saying...the quality has fallen down in the last 2 years. and will . that's why i upload garbage. just to stir things up and hoping to improve sales. i not certainly upload quality work or series.

When micro started, it was mostly 'amateurs' who were submitting, it's not a 'now' thing. In fact, iS started as a sharing site, with no money changing hands.

yes but after you see complex shooting, interesting images...now  i see only boring images...look for example food...then go to alma or offset and look the food images. you see what i mean. amateur.

Quote from: Robin@Symbiostock on February 14, 2016, 22:21

The best unified solution that is slowly gaining traction (and would benefit everyone quicker if all the professional yet disgruntled contributors hopped on) is Symzio.

For the first time there is a real option here - so don't keep complaining unless you've done everything you can to free yourself from the yoke of agencies. You control most of your own pricing, control your entire collection, have two new independent platforms to sell your stuff, and most importantly, keep a minimum of 70% of all revenue up to 90%.

No one is going to hand you a solution - you need to work for it. No matter how many posts you put up, no matter how many angry retorts or insults you upvote, and no matter how many programs you opt out of, the only feasible way to create a noticeable impact is to compete.

I agree with Robin. Thats why I've always said Micro is 20% + or - of my Income , It never was supposed to be more than that from Day one. Im a commercial Photographer and have been 25 Years before micro.....A gun for Hire, I do food menus,Seagrams,maytag,jewelry,Actor headshots and Furniture Catalogs,Glamour retouching for others,I teach,co-author Books ,Lectures and workshops around the country. And I Live Very well On the copyrights I own for 460TV shows,37 Films and 48 Music Albums. All of which I produced and own. I also have Major Interior designer contacts selling My paintings to Hotels, Banks,Whatever.. it's a business Guys and Im ALWAYS looking for opportunities..

And if your not ready or up to this? well then ya better get going or.....Take what they give or get out.

Thats the difference, You wanna be a working pro? get . out of this and do the work Promoting your work to clients. Ya, There still there and world wide  But, you have to go get them if you have the right stuff and that means being able to shoot and process More than one or 2 subjects.. And have the equipment necessary to do it for whatever comes along.  [A week ago, I shot a Insurance company Indoors...80 People scattered 2 floors on stairs.] 6 ..600 watt strobes 3 assistants.] Thats what it is. 5 hours for one shot.
I could never have made the money I need to live on Doing this alone and was always blown away by folks that could. Wanna know what makes me crazy?,, there are millions of great artists, Painters,Photographers,Musicians Dancers,actors..etc that will never be seen... Why?,, Because they dont possess the need to succeed, The drive,The self promotion and all the other stuff it takes.

I've said this a 100 times Shooting the Job is the easiest part. Getting the Job and keeping the job Is a 1000 times more difficult. especially since digital Came along.

If any of you can't or don't want to Promote yourselves....even a little. stick with Micro and accept whatever. Or...Put your foot down and say no More and make it a business. and as much as I respect Robin, Thats really Not the way either UNLESS you got some CHUTZPAH and go for it. Your the one that has to make it happen.

My Old friend Yuri was a textbook Perfect example of what Im saying He could have been anything he wanted. WORK ETHIC= Promotion=Just enough Talent.

Is there some BS involved?  Of course. Don't fool yourselves.


Here's the method. when you see a crack in a door, do you wonder whats on the other side and peep through the crack ? Or do you just Knock the * thing down and walk in?? It better be the latter guys. It's not like you found the cure for cancer, Your taking Pictures.....Like a Million Others. Selling Is the art part.

Do I send everything I do to Microstock??...Hell No.

i agree...100%...it's very difficult indeed begin now to build up a career than 25 years ago...
i am moving to quality also, rm fine art assignment, finding an agent, already with 2 rm news editorial big agency...microstock for me is just the way now to collect some money to finance gears and travel...and i upload what in lightroom i catalog one or 2 star maximum. everything unique, with quality, with a theme behind no way.
now time to upload footage especially aerial. planning to add 1000 1500 dollar every month till i can, in the time moving completely to other area of photography, so next year i could just collect money sometimes from micro stock.

Quote from: stockastic on February 15, 2016, 12:40

Quote from: PZF on February 15, 2016, 03:26

There must be better options for more arty pics.....!

500px needs to get the basics in place. I get the impression their original plan didn't work, they cut way back (dropped prints)

Their original plan didn't work, indeed.

However, their current plan works much, much better, despite some naysayers attempts to find flaws in it.
It even works much better than most of other plans available on the market.

Btw, did you ever sell a print on 500px, since you hang on so much on prints?

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personally i don't believe when people say they sell a lot in 500px....it seems something a bit cooked for unknown interest.....u told us u have few images but you are selling so much...ithout have a look at your portfolio in 500 px i'm sorry i don't believe a single words.
in addiction what genre are you selling?

People shouldn't worry about how many images are being added. It's something people can't control. We're all contributors and we're all submitting images, so we're all part of it.

Worry about what we can control, our own images, and our own portfolios. Even with the new images added, I haven't seen any dilution in sales. If the SS search engine is Eye of Sauron, then your images need to be one ring to rule them all.

what i see is the i earn always the same in ss....i uploaded till the 2010 and then nothing more, just some hundred per year....I have now thousand of photos that i left in my hard disk, i focus more in other photography than stock...i travel a lot and accumulate more than 2000000 thousand photos in the last year.
In the last month i decided to reebgin uploading. in the last 5 years even not uploading i always have the same earning...my portfolio is 2000 file now travel and editorial mostly. what i noticed is that i still keep selling the same images. some have more than 800 download. all the newest photos from 2013 have 0,5% of all sales...and they are good images, from travel mostly.
i have the impression that the images i uploaded when there were not millions in the agency, have now a solid position in search engine, and they are chosen while the new one simply go down the sink of the zillions of images,m without any possibility of being found.