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1176
« on: October 28, 2014, 11:32 »
Better yet, the popular places and sites have been covered and shot to death. If you find something different, there's a good chance of having a ready image and making a sale. Maybe less demand, but there's certainly less competition.
Yep, take average images of low demand subjects and you have a good chance of getting a sale. Hopefully your sale covers your time, gas, gear etc... The formula is simple, take great shots of high demand topics. You aren't going to make any money shooting things that might get you a sale one day.
1177
« on: October 10, 2014, 15:20 »
Looks like I'm going to get a couple hundred taken back in a few months.
1178
« on: October 09, 2014, 12:50 »
i stopped this silly poll long ago. whats the point when they cap off earnings at $2500? my exclusive earnings are much more than that. the accuracy of this poll is not accurate at all simply because of the cap in earnings that are able to be reported. also of note, if stocksy is so hot why are they still at nothing? i think you can only judge the accuracy of this poll if we actually had real earnings able to be added ie: $5300 and also by how many people actually used the poll.
I also stopped doing the poll for the same reason. I don't think I've answered in a year or so. If we are allowed to enter higher numbers I might start again. Right now a nonexclusive can enter earnings of tens of thousands per month but exclusives can only enter $2,500.
1179
« on: October 08, 2014, 10:33 »
I think Leaf changed the poll so that you can now enter your RPI if you made a mistake and entered your RPD.
1180
« on: October 08, 2014, 09:48 »
I have to say that both downloads and revenue have absolutely plummeted at Istock for me since the changes. I'm seeing the fewest sales numbers on weekdays that I have for nearly 10 years (since I first began uploading). So far this month I have yet to make double figures on any day. A few years ago, even as an independent, I was selling 50-60 licenses per weekday.
On the other hand sales at SS have gone ballistic and if it keeps up then I'm on target for a massive BME. In particular sales of On-Demand-Downloads have increased hugely.
Can I be alone in wondering whether the two events could possibly be connected?
I think that almost everyone (apart from Tickstock obviously) will now agree that you were right all along with respect to that thing about eggs and baskets.
Oh well.
:-)
I'm not sure almost everyone will now agree, almost everyone has not quit exclusivity have they? Have you? I haven't run the numbers too extensively yet but it looks to me like the number of essentials downloads has gone way down, at least 50% if not more for my portfolio while signature and + downloads are up on the last 4 months significantly.
1181
« on: October 07, 2014, 21:40 »
...... If you don't see how it can be used to help make decisions, it's easy to ignore it but it's just plain silly to say that it is inherently useless or pointless.
nope - voodoo is voodoo -- it's up to the proponents to show why this stat has any validity
Voodoo? Do you think RPI is random? Some people get $10 per image while others get 1 cent based on magic?
1182
« on: October 07, 2014, 20:15 »
I think knowing the breakdown for RPI on Shutterstock is very useful information and it seems that after over 120 votes in one day a lot of other people are very interested in the data as well.
It helps people make reasonable assumptions about what they can earn, not exact numbers, but a reasonable range. If you don't see how it can be used to help make decisions, it's easy to ignore it but it's just plain silly to say that it is inherently useless or pointless.
1183
« on: October 07, 2014, 14:11 »
It is not a moot point, it is a fact, if you know RPD you have an actual number that tells you something. You never know what you get with an RPI as it is manipulatable. 
Yes it is possible. Someone could delete all of their images except their number one best seller and throw off this poll. It is possible that most people are deleting all of their images except their best one right now to throw off the poll. I'm not too worried about that but if you are feel free to ignore the results. It seems absurd that anyone would actually do any of those things to manipulate their RPI for an anonymous poll but like you said it is possible.
1184
« on: October 07, 2014, 13:55 »
Who's talking about actually doing it, I am just making a statement of a fact. That is all.
Well if no one is actually doing it then I guess it's a moot point.
1185
« on: October 07, 2014, 13:40 »
Simple really, you cant manipulate RPD, you can manipulate RPI.
I've never seen the point in deleting files that don't sell especially not enough to drastically change my RPI. Sure I could delete a couple thousand files that rarely sell (but every once in a while they do) to make my RPI look higher but why would I do that? To change the poll results, to feel better about my RPI, to be able to brag about a high RPI? I don't think many of us try to manipulate our RPI, but if you have a good reason why we should be manipulating our RPI's please tell me.
1186
« on: October 07, 2014, 12:34 »
Why can't people view the results without voting? The results might be helpful to non-contributors to SS, especially if considering dropping exclusivity at another site. Perhaps that is why (some) people vote with the wrong answer, just to view the results. Is that just the way the polling part of the forum works?
You can't. I set it up to be viewed without voting but it doesn't work. Maybe I'll add a space to vote 'just want to see results' in the next poll but that throws off the numbers.
1187
« on: October 07, 2014, 12:10 »
Exactly, if you are going to compare a site to anything, RPD tells us, what they pay. It has nothing to do with number of DLs, it's just what's the average payment for a DL. I'd like to know that.
When you get hired for a job, you would like to know, how much per hour or what salary, you will make, not what other people make at the same place, doing different work.  That's RPI.
On the other hand, knowing that some anonymous person claims to make and RPI of (hypothetical number here) .50 on SS tells me little or nothing.
I'd like to know what the RPI is on FT, IS and DT for that same person, for their same images. That would be telling.
Someone else pointed out, "how has your RPI changed" That's interesting as well. But what's Sept. RPI is hardly of any value, without before and after or comparison to other agencies.
To say I make an RPI of .20 on SS in Sept. 2014, means nothing to you or anyone else. It's an individual number. You might ask, what was my RPI increase or decrease since Aug. 2014. Or how does it compare to Sept. 2013.
But as a number, for one person, standing alone, it's pretty much useless to anyone else!
RPD is not so meaningful for this topic, but if you compare one site to another it a good thing to know. That was the whole reason people got upset by DPC. Nobody knew what RPI would be, but people were upset by low RPD.
Well you need to find the RPI for this month to make a comparison to next month. I'll start another poll next month (with better instructions and allow people to change their votes if they mess up) so that you can start finding out what the average or expected RPI is and how it's trending.
1188
« on: October 07, 2014, 11:24 »
How much should my RPI be to make $1000 a month on SS?
That's a very strange question. If you have 1 image your RPI needs to be $1,000 and if you have 1,000 images your RPI needs to be $1.
1189
« on: October 07, 2014, 10:48 »
What I did write and you both have managed to ignore is this: RPD is more important than PRI. And of more value for a poll of a specific agency. How much do they pay for a license, on average. That's what makes the bottom line and income.
If I am about to start contributing to a site or just start in stock and I have 1,000 average images what is more useful RPD or RPI? If I know the average RPD is $1 I can make an educated guess that I'll make how much? No clue. If I know the average RPI is $1 I can make an educated guess that I'll make how much? $1,000. Obviously it's not guaranteed but just knowing what RPD I'll get will never be able to give me any clue as to what I will earn while knowing the average RPI should be helpful. And to be clear the bottom line is RPI x number of images. RPD is not the bottom line at all. I look at RPD more as a measure of fairness in royalties but it doesn't tell me much about how much I'll earn without knowing how many downloads I'll get, RPD doesn't say anything about that.
1190
« on: October 07, 2014, 10:02 »
I was at $.61 for Sept at SS. That's down a fair bit from last Sept. I attribute this drop to the three core factors driving down microstock income for all contributors -- 1) exploding growth of ports at the big agencies and inability for a long-time contributor to grow at the same rate, 2) former IS exclusives dropping the crown and setting up at SS and the other big players, and 3) agency changes such as search changes and new offerings like DPC.
As for RPI as a metric...
Some keep saying RPI is meaningless. I couldn't disagree more.
It's not about bragging rights. It's not "Oh yeah, I could make my number higher by deleting my non-sellers."
You NEED your non-sellers in the count because the point is to AVERAGE out your good and bad sellers to determine how much the AVERAGE image will earn you. You have no way of knowing whether today's batch of images will be good or bad sellers, but guessing that they will hit an AVERAGE RPI for your port is the best projection you can make. If you apply an RPI that has been tinkered by removing your bad sellers, that's just foolish.
It's about tracking your performance over time and watching for trends. It's about being able to project future income, setting goals and figuring out how much work you'll need to do to hit those goals. For me, I bake in a continued slide in my RPI due to the three factors named above, and I feel this gives me the most reliable projection for future earnings. There's NO better way to project this, until someone invents a time machine.
Exactly. People could delete non sellers and low sellers to make their RPI look better but that comes at the expense of some sales and so almost nobody does that. To people like UnclePete I hope this poll doesn't cause you to delete your files just so you can anonymously report a better RPI, that seems like a very bad idea.
1191
« on: October 07, 2014, 08:37 »
You have my vote, I did lifetime for those images not September. OOPS! 
It's not no clue it's just plain stupid and not reading the question.
My RPI for my top ten images (1-10 by # of DLs) is $140 
You made $1,400 last month on Shutterstock from 10 images? I have a feeling you still have no clue what RPI is.
Don't feel too bad, it seems a lot of other people probably had problems with it too.
1192
« on: October 07, 2014, 08:23 »
My RPI for my top ten images (1-10 by # of DLs) is $140
You made $1,400 last month on Shutterstock from 10 images? I have a feeling you still have no clue what RPI is.
1193
« on: October 06, 2014, 20:27 »
There's something seriously wrong with the results when nearly 50% of voters are claiming more than 40c per image/month ... which itself is nearly 50% higher than Shutterstock's declared average.
Even Sean said he's only generating about 60c per image/month (in a previous thread) so we must have some absolute stock geniuses voting in the poll.
It does seem a bit unlikely that these numbers are true. People like Sean and Rob make many times more than the average contributor here with an average number of images yet they have RPIs lower than 30 or 40% of the respondents? It's not adding up.
1194
« on: October 06, 2014, 12:10 »
What about videos? Do you mean revenue per FILE or strictly per image?
For my purposes I calculate them together, I can't be bothered to deduct video sales.
Also, as I wrote in another thread an exclusive jumping ship should not expect the same results as people who have been slowly feeding the beast and achieved high positions in Most Popular sorts. The reasons are: competing with your own files and it is much more difficult to reach the first page when over 300.000 files are being added every week.
Video sales are listed separately in your sales data so it shouldn't be too much work to figure out what your photo sales are. I think a poll about video would probably have different results so it's probably better to keep them apart.
1195
« on: October 06, 2014, 11:56 »
Just curious why you want to know....thinking of jumping ship? Or just curious?
I think having more, good information is always helpful for everyone.
1196
« on: October 06, 2014, 11:42 »
RPI in terms of USD. We know the average RPI at Shutterstock is about 28 cents for all file types but I haven't seen any recent polls on this for photographers and illustrators.
This sort of poll is only even slightly useful if we know the media and critically for SS, whether images are opted in for sensitive use or not, since it's all in or all out. All out, to protect models, means the biggest value sales (even if not actually 'sensitive') are unavailable.
You ask for RPI, (income/all images on SS) but do you really mean RPD (income/# of downloads)?
No, I mean RPI. NOT RPD.
1197
« on: October 06, 2014, 11:40 »
I also think you need to clarify the parameters for calculating RPI - My guess is you are going to get people using different methods (and some actually reporting RPD).
I think it should be easy for people to figure out, I'll add to the OP though. Total photo income for September divided by total photos online. Hopefully people won't enter their RPD which is total income divided by downloads.
1198
« on: October 06, 2014, 09:40 »
RPI in terms of USD. We know the average RPI at Shutterstock is about 28 cents for all file types but I haven't seen any recent polls on this for photographers and illustrators.
This sort of poll is only even slightly useful if we know the media and critically for SS, whether images are opted in for sensitive use or not, since it's all in or all out. All out, to protect models, means the biggest value sales (even if not actually 'sensitive') are unavailable.
Ok, changed to just photographers.
1199
« on: October 06, 2014, 09:30 »
RPI in terms of USD. We know the average RPI at Shutterstock is about 28 cents for all file types but I haven't seen any recent polls on this for photographers.
RPI means total income from photos divided by total number of photos online.
1200
« on: October 06, 2014, 08:51 »
One obvious advantage of exclusivity was that you had a lot less uploading/keywording to do, so could spend that extra time creating more content.
This is a thread and poll about RPI so that shouldn't matter should it? Also nothing has changed with respect to that so again why does that matter?
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