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Self-hosted?

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It's been a pretty good year so far. I started in 2006 (always non-exclsuive), and this year should be my best. That said, I don't have a lot of confidence in the major micros or upload to them anymore.

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  On behalf of the dinosaurs, I totally agree. It was fun while it lasted, but it's over. But to give stock images of that era a little credit, the pricing came about at a time when you had to shoot film, and there was no photoshop. Everything had to be perfect in the camera, and then you had to hope the lab didn't screw it up. Also, there was a great premium placed on exclusivity- the idea that a competitor could not use the image you were using, and that it hadn't been used before. This justified some of the pricing because that took an image out of circulation for a year or more.
   Having said that, it was an exclusive club that was hard to get into. Out of hundreds of submissions, you were often lucky to get 2 or 3 shots in a catalog. And 500 page catalogues weighing 10 lbs each had to be mailed all over the globe, and took 6 months to produce, costing half a million dollars at a time.
   So the big change, as was said earlier, was structural. Internet delivery, digital cameras, no film costs, and no interest in exclusivity. Getty was slowly moving in that direction when Istock came out of the blue and hit them over the head. I remember bidding on a job for an AR for an investment company. There were a series of small 1" x 1" shots of simple stuff- stacks of money, gold bars, like that. I think I bid something like $250 each, which was a cheap price at the time. the designer bought them on istock for maybe $10 each. That was the first time I had heard of istock, and believe me, i could see the future. It didn't mean I had to like it, i just had to deal with it.

I would assume the other side of that is graphic design has changed just as much, so the customers are evolving and changing as well.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: Sharing a Link
« on: June 04, 2013, 09:28 »
Yeah, I think making money with referrals is pretty much being killed off by most of these agencies (especially for referred contributors).

You can always join my affiliate program though, and help me sell my stuff.

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DepositPhotos / Re: Sean Locke featured on DP
« on: June 03, 2013, 09:21 »
If he wants to replace his iStock earnings from the micros then I'm pretty sure the only way to do it is to follow that path Yuri was on until recently and flood every single site with everything you can.

Didn't Yuri end up deciding the exact opposite though and remove his port from everywhere?

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DepositPhotos / Re: Sean Locke featured on DP
« on: June 03, 2013, 09:18 »

....Your images would probably average $1 per image/month at SS, possibly better given time to become established in the default sort order. In other words if you uploaded 10K images to SS then they should generate an income of $10K+ per month...


Every uploaded image * $1/month? That calculation is doesn't make much sense. SS is good money tho.

Sean and I started microstock at about the same time and historically his images, relative to portfolio size (and before IS started messing about with the best match with exclusive bias, etc), sold about 5x more than mine. I currently average about 33c per image/month at SS so if that ratio still applies then he should actually be north of $1.50 per image/month.

How is it for people that join SS today? I hear a lot of rumblings about new files getting buried. I've been doing better there in the last several months, so I assumed they had flipped the switch to favor old files.

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DepositPhotos / Re: Sean Locke featured on DP
« on: June 02, 2013, 18:09 »
You will no doubt say that many subs images are never used, and that may be true, but we could all have a much better living if we sold less images for just a bit more money.

That's kind of how I see it. I'm not interested in leaving micro. I just want to get a little more out of it. After selling at a variety of prices, I have a pretty clear idea of where the best value/price of my work. Unfortunately, not everybody has the same number as me, so some people will sell for less and undercut that. Just as I'm probably undercutting someone else.

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DepositPhotos / Re: Sean Locke featured on DP
« on: June 02, 2013, 12:13 »
Maybe, but I'm in place right now where I don't need to support sub programs, and would rather not.

I think that is a decent idea. It's kind of hard to back out of once you go down that road. I know I've been trying to fix the mess I've made for myself over the last few years.

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General Stock Discussion / Re: May Sales
« on: June 01, 2013, 14:48 »
good month for me as well! I am just afraid if Shutter were to fade most of us would be in deep trouble since we have such a high percentage of our overall income from them...

You could always try to create a delayed uploading strategy or develop exclusive content to try to boost sales at other sites. Or try branching out into other markets (POD, RM, etc).

As some people learned from iStock, a drastic change can hurt your overall income if most of it comes from one agency.

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GLStock / Re: Hard Times at GL - Changes From June 1st, 2013
« on: June 01, 2013, 09:40 »
It's a shame the change has hit them so hard. My own traffic has basically halved, but sales have still been strong. I'm glad they aren't going after royalty rates though. I think that would be a mistake.

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General Stock Discussion / Re: May Sales
« on: June 01, 2013, 09:35 »
3rd best month ever and best month of the year. A little bit down from last May (2nd BME) though. I thought it was going to be a BME, but the last week and Memorial day weekend were pretty slow.

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They are still anonymous, just a banner that says which agency they are with. If you stick an IS banner on pieman, you still dont know who he is.

It doesn't sound very anonymous. It also doesn't seem right to say one person has to reveal where they work, but other people don't. The same rules should be applied to everyone.

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One important suggestion that was made by Jsnover didnt get picked up, its about agency employees posting here need to get a banner regardless if they want it or not.

Shouldn't they be allowed to be anonymous too?

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I'm not so sure people would come back, 4 people already left just at the suggestion of it, some of them probably won't be back.  If it works out better then great but if it doesn't is the site done?

I don't know. Leaving a site would be a scary and foreign experience for most microstock contributors. (insert sarcasm font here)  ;)

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Shutterstock.com / Re: OFFSET opened doors
« on: May 30, 2013, 12:16 »
You have to "be invited" (sign up) just to LOOK?!

It's the new business model of psychically buying images.  ;)

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Shutterstock.com / Re: OFFSET opened doors
« on: May 30, 2013, 11:43 »
I don't see anything.

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I'm not sure other subscription services are a huge threat to SS. They've got that part of the market pretty well locked up. I would think if something is going to threaten them it would be at the higher end of the market. It would have to lure contributors away from them which would probably mean they are paying a lot better and a lot more. I don't see a company right now that is doing that with a large number of contributors. Smaller agencies like Stocksy could chip away at them, but you'd need a lot of Stocksies to do it.

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Confirm identies? Ever notice how you never see Clark Kent and cthoman in the same room at the same time?

Umm... err... nothing to see here.

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I would say that a reading of this forum thread should make the advantages of allowing anonymity obvious already.  We have, so far, examples of Sean Locke, JoAnn Snover, Bobby Deal, and Laurin Rinder all having been directly penalized by various agencies as a result of things they've said or admitted to in these forums. 

We also have a growing list of valuable "anonymous" contributors who will cease to participate at all if they are forced to go public.

Even though I won't be directly affected, as I am already public, I expect we will all be affected by the chill this is going to put over the open exchange of ideas and information.  If I wanted sanitized pablum I would still be frequenting the agency forums.

I'm not sure that anonymity would have prevented these things from happening. Most of the people on here aren't really all that anonymous. If an agency is out for your blood because of something you did or are doing, they are probably going to find you and punish you regardless.

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It frankly creeps me out to see people who already have their names exposed through choice, advocating that everyone else should do so (i.e. have their choice removed).

The paranoia and conspiracy theories of the anonymous creep me out a bit too.  ;D

All kidding aside, I don't care all that much either way. I think it would be an interesting experiment for the forum. It would be tough to implement though, since so many seem against it.

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Actually I'm going to take back the inch I gave earlier on this.  As Mellimage said, it does feel as though I'd be forced against my will to do something - and I'd never accept that in real life, so I'm not going to accept it just to be able to participate here.  I'd probably have itchy fingers for a while if I couldn't post, but I'd get over it.

Yes, because we are never forced to do anything in microstock.  ;)

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I don't have a problem with real identities. My user name has always been my real name, and it's the same user name at most sites. I've never seen any reprisals, and I've said some pretty negative stuff.

I'm not sure if real identities will "clean up" the forum though. There are a lot of strong personalities (both anonymous and not) here, so the conversations will still probably be pretty spirited.

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oh really... interesting that nothing changes, actually it has, for worst :o

LOL. That's what I was thinking.

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I'm confused. What's the debate here? Do you really need to form a council to decide that giving away images for free isn't a very good idea?

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New Sites - General / Re: Zoomy Images Launches
« on: May 27, 2013, 11:08 »
I hope that "gap in the marketplace in terms of pricing structures" doesn't translate as "we're going to drive prices even lower".

I thought their pricing was pretty good. I might think about joining, but the exclusive files seems like too much of an investment for me.

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