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Canva is apparently reselling images from Scopio (an image search from a Scopio photo produced Canva results). Canva is offering the photo for $10 or a subscription for all 50 million "Photos Unlimited" for $12.95 a month

https://www.canva.com/photos/MADTkZmx_SM-woman-standing-beside-river-facing-mountain/

https://scop.io/products/woman-standing-beside-river-facing-mountain?variant=13230434615319

The fact that this turned up in a search for Hawaii - it's in the keywords, along with Iceland and Asia - is a puzzle as it's clearly not.

I don't have anything at either place, so I'm just a curious bystander, but pricing's bizarre and keywording so bad I don't know how you'd ever locate what you want.



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Custom sales can be higher but the sales marked as "standard" - the ones from Fotolia for credits - will be gone completely next month when they finally shut the Fotolia site down.

A $3.30 subscription sale is most welcome, but those are the low volume buyers and not as frequent as the 38 cent subs...

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I am. My WordPress version is 5.2.3 which is the latest (I think).

The only problem I have is with the PhP version on the BlueHost server. You can set a version in a file called htaccess, which I do, but there is an automated process on the server that keeps editing the file to change the version to the latest (7.x), which breaks the old Symbiostock plugin.

I figured I'd keep this running until something breaks and then consider the experiment over. I have other things I'm hosting there, so I may just turn the domain into a portfolio site, vs sales; I wouldn't mind using some other sales option, but It has to be something low maintenance and low cost (sales are minimal, so I'm not going to pay much for site software that just won't pay me back).

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Site Related / Re: Spam Posts
« on: September 28, 2019, 14:24 »
One day this week I happened upon a reply needing approval from a poster who already had a number of posts. I assumed it was because there was an attachment - a screenshot that seemed pertinent to me, so I approved the post. I wondered if I had missed some sort of marker on the "Moderate" menu that indicated there was something needing attention.

A day or two later when I came to check the forum I decided to look in the Moderate section, even though it had no indicator that posts were awaiting an approval, and there were several replies from a new poster. They all looked fine to me, so I approved them.

My suggestion, if it's possible, is that the "Moderate" menu should have an indicator - like "My Messages" does if you have new private messages - letting us know something needs attention.

1230
...Because Bill Gates has a taste for easy money. He owned Corbis for many years then sold it to VCG for a hefty profit. Guess he wants back into the game. ...

To interrupt your rant with some facts, temporarily...

Microsoft Corp and Bill Gates are two different entities. Microsoft never owned Corbis (Bill Gates did).

Bill Gates no longer runs Microsoft; Satya Nadella is the CEO.

https://news.microsoft.com/exec/bill-gates/
https://news.microsoft.com/exec/satya-nadella/

Adobe is much more than a stock agency - if you wanted to get "back into the game", buying Adobe, Inc. would be a very odd way to do that.



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Canva / Re: More ''Good news'' from Canva :-/
« on: September 24, 2019, 10:14 »
...I work for Canva on the marketplace side, and I just discovered this forum. Hope it's OK for me to post here, ...

Danny, I suggest you contact the forum moderator (link at the bottom of each page; it'll go to Tyler Olson; leaf is his user name here) to get yourself a "Verified" logo that shows you are a representative of the company. Makes it easier for users to know who's who.

1232
This is clickbait. They're trying to drive traffic to their blog - Forbes has this bizarre platform

https://www.forbes.com/sites/susannahbreslin/2011/04/06/how-to-become-a-forbes-blogger/#1c600fe92862

I can't think of a single reason either company would consider this for a nanosecond

1233
EyeEm's response to me this morning is that the incorrect credit for the photos is a mistake and should be "fixed next week".

Regarding duplication, "...this is your responsibility to make sure that you do not upload the duplicate images, since we do not check if that image is already on the Partner platform before distributing it."!!

EyeEm clearly isn't thinking about this. As I don't know who they will upload to, how can I possibly do that? And when I uploaded the image to EyeEm, they weren't partnering with Alamy.

In addition, there are images that are not on all sites - so when they upload to Getty, that's fine (as I have nothing there) but not on Alamy.

From a technical point of view, Alamy is the one who can weed out duplicates on its platform - using their find similars technology - but that needs to be part of the partner agreement EyeEm makes with them.

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Isn't this some sort of partner deal between EyeEm and Alamy? A partner deal gone horribly wrong - if you contribute to both Alamy and EyeEm.

The major problem I see as a contributor to both Alamy and EyeEm is that I am now competing with myself (although given that EyeEm has let Getty butcher the keywords I entered, it's unlikely the EyeEm version will be found!) and an image I took is credited to this mystery person who had nothing to do with it.

My image:

https://www.alamy.com/stock-photo-sandstone-cliffs-at-torrey-pines-gliderport-are-covered-in-wildflowers-138626272.html

My image credited to Adam Kuylenstierna and EyeEm

https://www.alamy.com/sandstone-cliffs-at-torrey-pines-gliderport-are-covered-in-wildflowers-and-offer-stunning-views-of-scripps-pier-and-la-jolla-image268440734.html

This is just one example. I think everything I have on EyeEm that was selected for the partner collection will be there. I have written to EyeEm to ask them to get the duplicate images eliminated from their uploads to Alamy. If they can't or won't do that, I'll close my account at EyeEm. The Getty sales (the other partner site I know of) are of late not worth much, so it's an easy choice.

Looking at what Alamy has, there are 498,909 photos listed if you click on the contributor name EyeEm:

https://www.alamy.com/search/imageresults.aspx?cid=H22BE9PXG5264F6CH3WVYNJD3HCALQ8QAS39N5HR22GV8EBNZDUCTKKTULL78ZSY&name=EyeEm&st=12&mode=0&comp=1

Most of these say the Photographer is "EyeEm" as well as the contributor name being EyeEm

For the Photographer "Adam Kuylenstierna" you get 278,284 results - all the ones I clicked on showing "EyeEm" as the contributor

https://www.alamy.com/search/imageresults.aspx?pseudoid=%7b1BB2FE65-C1D9-4FAB-9691-F2D61C395690%7d&name=Adam+Kuylenstierna&st=11&mode=0&comp=1

I could solve this by closing my account at EyeEm as it's really not bringing in much any more, but it's just crazy that Alamy didn't weed out duplicates. I knows what they are as the "Similar" photos link shows my photo for the EyeEm photo's similar.


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iStockPhoto.com / Re: This is all we got - A SORRY
« on: September 20, 2019, 20:15 »
I guess money is what makes THEM happy.

I think that is unfair. ...

You can look at this a number of ways - yours is one that is pretty close to the iStock after-the-fact "ooops" email.

The bank account analogy doesn't  match the earnings report situation - no bank is in charge of the calculations of what should be deposited into your account; they tell you where the deposit came from and how much it was. You, the customer, have your independent source of whatever the transaction was and how much it should be. If the numbers don't match, you can immediately take action.

Getty is in charge of the books - we have only their accounting for what sales took place, when, where, with which customers and for how much. As contributors, we are flying completely blind with no independent verification of anything (unless we happen to know the purchaser for a transaction)

Getty has time and again demonstrated how inept they are at keeping their books. I wouldn't put it past them to keep costs down by spending as little as possible on accounting or review of the accuracy of the books, new software, etc. Getty has also repeatedly demonstrated that you can't rely on anything they say, where they will eat the costs of any mistake they make that costs the contributor. As pointed out above, the poisonous KK Thompson was the author of the money isn't what makes you happy remark, back when they were doing Getty's bidding and slashing contributor royalties.

There are other ways mistakes can be handled. As one example, when a business advertises a product at the wrong price because of their own goof, in many jurisdictions they are required to honor that mistake even though it then eats into their profits. Sometimes they're not legally required to do that but the business wants to generate some goodwill from customers and does so as a way of saying "sorry".

Being honest that you're useless at keeping the accounts doesn't count for much. Their whole system of payments is error ridden and slow - a month and a half in arrears for an internet-based business?

It may not be a kind remark, but it's eminently fair.

1236
Apparently there were two categories of mistakes made in reporting of Canva sales. The corrections show up as refunds - one person had 500 refunds and another 650...

1. reporting Australian $ sales as US $ amounts

2. Reporting sales at double the actual value

Getty also apparently apologizes for any inconvenience this may have caused.

Tossers!

1237
...I still can't get anywhere. I must be doing something wrong.  :( I go to that page and choose the "Royalty Statements and Download Counts" category but then from there I can just see some canned answers and I don't see a way to actually send them a message.

I just went there to see and they're making it hard to actually send them a ticket. For some of the topics, however, you can (if you wade through the pages of canned advice) get to an entry that says "I've tried all of that and I still can't xxxx". Click "Next" there and you get a support ticket to fill in and send.

I was able to see that from the "Minimum payment amounts & carried forward balances" starting point:

How to download & view a statement in PDF format -> How to see if my payment was carried forward in a PDF royalty statement  ->  Cannot download my royalty statement -> I've tried the above but am still experiencing issues

It's truly shameful that they make it so difficult, but they clearly don't want you to submit a ticket :)

They say they want a full screen capture of your error, but I'd send them anything just so the ticket is complete. You might be able to find another route to a ticket, but I found lots of dead ends where there was no support ticket...

1238
Australia = Canva???  ::)

If you download a PDF version of your statement, it'll say specifically what is Canva

1239
...A question, maybe someone knows:
Do i get my money, if i close my account and did not reach the payout limit?

You should check with support (who may or may not reply promptly) but I think you will not. Most of the sites will hang onto money below the payout threshold.

Although (gallows humor) if they keep going at this rate, you'll get enough refunds that you may be able to leave with a zero balance :) (Sorry! I know it's not funny that these agencies behave so badly, and it's our money they're playing around with...)

1240
I have only a tiny fraction of my portfolio at iStock any more (about 100 images I can't license anywhere else) but I haven't seen negative bars on the earnings chart since Getty switched to ESP.

But even with that tiny portfolio, the geniuses at Canva managed to process two refunds!! 

I don't know any more than the PDF statement details, but I find it more than a little odd that in both cases, the earlier sale that was refunded was followed by one for the same image at a lower price - although with in one case months (29 May to 5 Aug) between the two.

I don't know who I loathe more, Getty or Canva :)

1241
Dreamstime.com / Re: Im sorry about Dreamstime
« on: September 16, 2019, 17:26 »
I just had a sale and it says something new (25% royalty).

That's not new - it was a credit sale (a rare bird these days) as opposed to subscription. You can read about the various royalty percentages (based on how much an image has sold) here:

https://www.dreamstime.com/sell-stock-photos-images


1242
Newbie Discussion / Re: Small request
« on: September 12, 2019, 12:57 »
It is - are you currently producing stock images/video? Thinking about it? Perhaps a little more about your interests would help connect you with people here with similar ones?

1243
Your portfolio links don't appear to be working at the moment, (not for SS, DT or 123rf). My links are working though, so you might want to look at what you've entered in your profile to see what's wrong (the Fotolia ones aren't working for anyone any more...)

I did find your Adobe Stock portfolio via a Google search

https://stock.adobe.com/contributor/208198523/the-nature-guy

The animals, plants and flowers subject matter is a tough sell (lots of supply) but Alamy might work for you. You'd need lots of specific location and species info (some you have it; some isn't in the keywords). I wouldn't  worry about about the low sales volume sites as I doubt the effort to upload would pay off.


1244
That was an amazingly rambling article - I will confess I skimmed chunks as it was numbing. He clearly has been around the photography industry a while, but clear and concise verbal communications doesn't appear to be his thing.

What were his main points? There was lots of airing of grievances that shared much with earlier complaints from old line "pro" photographers that crowdsourcing and microstock were ruining their cozy and lucrative business. Who was he addressing the article to? Buying companies? Stock agencies? Investors considering starting a new agency? I can't imagine any executive being willing to wade through such a meandering and lengthy article.

There didn't appear to be any sources for what he was claiming - other than his own and his acquaintances' experiences. I think he is taking way too rosy a view of the "quality" of the photos in the pre-microstock days (custom shoot or stock) and if businesses were truly unhappy with stock photos, they're buying a ton of them, so I guess they aren't as unhappy as he suggests. Regarding his notion of quality (or the lack of it in current stock photos), it reminds me of a Peter Drucker assertion that quality for the customer is based on how useful the product is to them, not how hard or expensive it was for the seller to produce.

Clearly Shutterstock's last quarterly review showed they had messed up the expansion of their enterprise segment, but the other 60% of their business is growing. Adobe's hard to assess because stock imagery is just a component in their overall business of leasing software, but their investors appear to be happy. Where is the pressure to make big changes in the business going to come from unless customers are not happy (as he is asserting with a couple of quotes, one of which was from a Getty exec)?


1245
Thanks.


1246
Thanks for the update Mat. I have a few editorial images with street scenes or beaches where there are people in the background. This is an example:

https://www.shutterstock.com/image-photo/merida-mexico-december-26-2007-meridas-191207564

It's not focusing on a person, but there are unreleased people. Is this allowed or not? I did read the information page, but the one disallowed example just showed one highly visible (though out of focus) person, so I wasn't sure.

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Shutterstock.com / Re: Adjustment tab?
« on: September 05, 2019, 14:10 »
Clear your cookies and you should see it. I used a private window on Firefox and low and behold it appeared.
Incognito window on Chrome and I still can't see the adjustments tab, so I don't think that's the whole answer

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Shutterstock.com / Re: Adjustment tab?
« on: September 05, 2019, 09:28 »
Single & Other is my last tab - no Adjustments

Chrome on Mac OS 10.14.6. USA West Coast

Perhaps it's rolling out slowly? Or they're still testing?

1249
Shutterstock.com / Re: SS continues to deteriorate
« on: August 29, 2019, 15:07 »
I hadn't seen that and was curious about who the writer was (as in whether they had any particular ax to grind). I think that SeekingAlpha offers bloggers on financial topics a platform for their articles, so this doesn't represent a consensus of analyst views on SS but just this guy's take. His description of himself (no name)

"Long-term focus, with some exceptions. Professional experience in health care, enterprise technology, media. I'm a self-taught investor. I started investing my own money in 2010 and have outperformed the S&P 500 by an average of 5% per year since then. Other individual investors have done far better. My biggest mistakes aren't any major dogs, but passing on big-name winners like Apple, Google, Priceline, others. "

I don't disagree with what he's saying, but he doesn't appear to have many followers. Here's a link to Seeking Alpha's guide to using blogs to increase your subscribers (I didn't bother to figure out what their "Marketplace" is or how much subscribers pay)

https://seekingalpha.com/article/4156779-marketplace-success-tips-best-practices-using-blog-posts

SSTK closed at $35.79 today, so apparently the blogger's negative views didn't tank the stock price :)

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Dreamstime.com / Re: Im sorry about Dreamstime
« on: August 29, 2019, 09:23 »
I am $1.92 $1.22 $0.87 $0.52 $0.17 shy of my next payout - let's hope they stay in business long enough to get that over $100 :)

Edited to add that I got to payout before they bit the dust. I had hoped that someone would purchase the site and make something of it - meaning that leaving my files there made sense. DT hasn't done anything objectionable (I opted out of partner sales) so there's no urgency to leave, but giving them such a long float before I get paid - given their $100 threshold - just feels like I'm subsidizing their slow decline. Decisions, decisions...

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