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And I will get a huge laugh if the exclusive IS supporters of the partner program start wailing loudly when their PP sales drop because of all the new content in the program (which will of course happen). If they then pull out of the PP as the sales aren't as good, Getty will then make PP mandatory for exclusives. It'd be funny if it wasn't our livelihoods those jerks were messing with.

Very insightful and well its probably going to be a reality going forward.    Now the PP is kind of happening because its under-fed and when all of this new content floods it, it will probably tank for current PP supporters, it will be a mess.   

Since I'm focusing on Video since the big black days of last year RC plan, I am affected less and less as time goes by.   

What I see in the not too distant future is more consolidation and less sites out there, some copycat sites will die, others absorbed and in the end it will all stabilize into 2-3 major companies. We know that Getty will remain in a strong form considering the amount of properties it has absorbed. SS seems to be positioned as a strong contender with their possible future ownership of other sites with Corbis being a third. In Video Pond5 seems to be doing good and it may very well survive but couldn't leave out the possibility of it being bought out.

I frankly see no easy way out of the current situation.

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Jodi Jacobson is assuming if a sale doesn't happen in 18mo it should go elsewhere and find a a place to sell.

Files older than 18mo are being targeted regardless of sales.   I think there is a lot of contributor confusion there.

As an exclusive "I Agreed" to the terms last night after a full day of reading and thought.  As exclusive it is actually changing very little on my end. I already have most of my footage on Getty, I have most of my non sellers on PP since 4mo ago and some content will migrate to Vetta/Agency and video to other partner sites.

In video we have been asking for lower prices for more mundane and not so spectacular shots and it seems the way they want to go about it is by offering them on other sites without adjusting prices down on iStock.    Ive been doing fairly well with video on Getty and time will tell how much better it gets if at all.    We have to compete with sites like Pond5 which give HD videos almost away at $10 in many instances.   This is a way to do it.

The master grand plan of this whole announcement is for iStock/Getty to flood the market of lower priced sites with the images that are available on Shutterstock, DT, FT, Canstock etc...  That way they will have a chance at diluting the market and maybe even offer lower prices for customers in order to hurt the competition with the same content for cheaper.  Non exclusives IMO are the main target of this and they know they can do it because most non exclusives have most of their images on so many sites that iStock calculates that one more site or multitude of sites wont be a burden since it will be automatically ingested, it will be instant dilution of the market.   Getty will offer competition from the bottom to the top.

Now for Exclusives I see it as a minor adjustment but for Non Exclusives it can be quite a step.  In any case the PP for non exclusives should in some way allow artists to include or exclude files from the offering.  This is probably the main problem with this whole thing.  I know that it is extremely important that as an exclusive PP files can be selected and excluded just like before.   If I didn't have that option I wouldn't have agreed. But since that isn't changing for Exclusives I see no major change in my case.  As a non exclusive it seems you have your work cut out for you.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: New Survey...
« on: August 24, 2011, 19:25 »
@StanRohrer

Very well said,  lets hope there is some sense in the company and things do start to turn around.

Very much enjoyed reading your responses and many echo mine!  The survey is worth it as it is at least a try at getting a point across.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: New Survey...
« on: August 23, 2011, 16:51 »
LOL Lisa  ;D

Yeah well he is a personal hero, I like that image because it conveys pure outrage.

However full contrarian thinking wont get us anywhere. I plan to create a balanced approach to the survey knowing full well that it could just be shafted by a keystroke.

Who knows what the future will bring but I am sure that if they continue to milk us with even less % revenue for the contributor I won't have the hope and decency I have endured for the last year.

There needs to be a change of course and approach to the dealings of late and if they only knew that the revenue will increase and competition decrease if they did the right thing.

Pay fair wages to contributors = More exclusives and less pictures for other sites.

Less pictures on other sites = Less clients to buy them = Less competition

Less Competition = iStock Grows revenues and gets more traffic

iStock Grows Stronger = They might start to pay 20% to exclusives. 

So I'm not sure if it will be a good thing or a bad thing.   All I know is that as of today they could change a load of things for the better!

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: New Survey...
« on: August 22, 2011, 23:25 »
Still no survey here,  I very much like the constructive comments you all have posted.   Lets hope they have the decency and foresight to gather this data and make a case to better the strained relationship with suppliers and buyers.

I frankly believe that if iStock didn't cut the royalties and instead fueled better returns for exclusivity and poured more money into advertizing with a credit price decrease of sorts... The company would be growing much more than it is today with heavier revenues and not at the cost of morale and alienating their crop growers. 

I am willing to give Rebecca and any new management the benefit of the doubt.   They could very easily turn the tide and fortify this enterprise, lets just hope they have a clear mind to do it.   Wishful thinking?  How worse can it get? 

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: What would it take?
« on: August 18, 2011, 20:18 »
To be frank...

I just want the 40% I earned while I wasted my fingers, wrist, eyesight, back family time and free time... that I invested in getting there at almost triple diamond.

We had a contract and a set of rules which were changed mid-race in order to simply wipe the slate clean and post higher revenues.  It is simply the ugliest thing any company or boss has done to me personally and why I simply have lost what made me love iStock in the first place, trust.

They can still backtrack and make it all back from today forward but I can't fathom that fairness is something they put in the equation now or in the future.   

If iStock does 40% to us diamonds as we were privy before, we still have the lowering of revenues due to large competition.    It does however only punish from a predictable side and not from the part of the equation that should be your agent and look after your revenue/work.

I know that many at iStock had no clue or wanted to do this so I am not generalizing on the good people there. They were handed a rotten egg basket and they had to color them nicely as much as they could to make the poison pill easier to swallow.   They can still turn back the clock and re-earn their place of trust.

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I love the depth of the responses and have learned a lot more from them. 

I still believe change is possible, it may come in small steps but clearly if nothing is done things will continue to deteriorate without any real solutions for the future.

There will probably be consolidation of many stock sites as time goes on, the plethora of sites, most offering close to the same thing can only create synergy in the end or disappear in ashes as oversupply cant feed the demand.

SAA, "Thanks Lisa" is a sad case of too little and obtuse thinking which alienated a huge chunk of an evolving industry. They had good values but applied them to a very limited scope of artists.

If a new "Alliance" is formed it should be one that unites all micro and macro stock with no boundaries of amateur and professionalism.  It should also be based on crowd-sourcing and the power of the artists. 

I would love to hear your ideas and what can be done to create something that creates a voice while at the same time try to preserve the strength and solidity of the companies themselves and our relationship with them.  It should be a symbiotic mutually beneficial relationship and not a war of constant fear, empty promises and weak retaliation.  Unity will help us move forward.

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Hi all,

It seems I struck a nerve at some point with my post in the main RC thread.

I have no agenda but that of fairness and as many of you know I was part of the Vetta Video opt out process. 

I have lost around 33% of my income due to the RC system and while I have worked many many extra hours off and on stock to pay the bills it looks like I might never attain the higher level that I enjoyed by being close to triple diamond.

I have good friendships with many inside and out of iStock and while I respect their positions I have always said what i really believed inside.

I believe iStock as a company had slower growth than projected hence why the RC system was concocted. It is a way of strengthening the core of the company while avoiding raising prices heavily to an already high system of offerings.

Now what did I mean by the contributors are at fault?

Well I believe we are responsible indirectly for the current state of affairs. If we don't fight for our rights it is of no consequence that they will be stripped away one at a time.

This is no master evil plan at work its business at its best. A business will try to extend its profit arm as far and wide as the market and suppliers will let it go. We in our small but vocal pulpits did not generate enough force to redirect the flow of the grab to make it a fair and stable system.

I am actually in awe of how far it has swung towards the company and its owners.  It makes it for a more stable and strong company to weather opposition, competition and economic storms.   It is their job after all to make the company stronger at any cost but it is our job to defend what take we finally get and we have failed dearly at it in what respects to RC.

RC levels is just one implementation of the system and it could be tweaked further to balance it out over time. I want a strong iStock, I want happy management but I also want a contributor base that is proud and doesn't distrust or vilify the company at every turn.

Corporations are not evil, they don't have feelings or empathy, they just see balance sheets that they can better tweak as time moves on. The staff is there and they do have feelings, empathy, love for the craft and good real feelings for contributors, buyers and friends.

I strongly believe that as far as iStock goes; the company people are good and strong minded people which get the bad reputation of being the button pushers and tweakers of our destiny in stock.  They are doing their job with the tools they were handed but that doesn't include the key to the contributor happiness toolbox.

That key can be brought to them by a well organized, respectful and unified voice that starts a dialogue process into getting a fairer system implemented.  It is of prime importance not to create animosity or damage the company but to make our points firm and in a true majority standing behind them.  Its our work and our livelihoods at stake and we can only fight it like good ladies and gents.

The scattered voices that populate the forums wont create that homogenous and clear message but will surely help in creating a voice when the time calls for it in a group creating a whole.

In the end we would desire to get a strong company attached to strong contributor values of compensation and clarity. Their strength is an asset to us the same as our continued support and artwork is the main resource that runs their engines.  Only dialogue can get there and only a clear voice will have a chance to be heard and listened too.

No side should feel punished or damaged in the end, we are a single shining entity with different systems but with third rate communications system. Our mutual benefit will make the whole stronger.

Sincerely,

James Benet

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You guys are getting me down  ;) , I feel your pain and I continue to see lower income despite working even harder. I have started to be hyper critical and selective of my recent work to the point where Its not a lot of fun anymore.

This used to be fun and still can be but with a recession that won't budge on our backs along with tighter squeezes makes for a recipe of simple but direct melodrama.

I will have to go on a full time job again and I know it wont be ideal but what else can you do. It seems the house of cards got too high and even the higher ups cant keep up with the relentless pace of uploads and finite clients.

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Off Topic / Re: This is why i love google
« on: November 10, 2010, 22:00 »
Sadly I'll be getting large cut come January 1st.    Wonder if Google would like to advise some in the stock business?

Hope this starts a trend reversal not just for stock related companies but industries as a whole.  Good times should be shared with the employee, not piled up in a vault!

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General Stock Discussion / Re: Apple is using Micro
« on: November 05, 2010, 14:13 »
I think it really shows how Apple even after that massive 4billion plus profit after expenses, is still cutting costs whenever they can. I am quite sure they would have had to pay around 10k for just the day rental of the lion plus the photographer expenses. I say they looked pretty darn cheap!

Funny  ;D

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: A Fable for those considering exclusivity
« on: September 21, 2010, 14:04 »
It was always about the money, right from the beginning. I hope Bruce is enjoying his $50 million. Somehow I doubt he lies awake at night worrying about what's happening to the likes of us.

I have to step in here and defend Bruce.   He didn't get 50 million, he had to give most of the sale money to the creditors that were owed for bankrolling the iStock Startup who wanted a nice return to their investment. If he made 2-3million himself I would be surprised. I think he was never in there for the money and when the iStock baby grew up to be big bucks he was not connected to that. He was not a cash hog or a bean counter, he was a rebel that made the right moves at the right time to get something started that changed a bunch of lives for the better, while making a difference for his own life.  He had a decision to make, either take it public or sell it off to gather the funds for expansion and pay the creditor shares. In the end I believe he could have gotten even more for the company but he made the right decision. Going public could have been a much more stressing scenario with a pure for profit culture. He was assured control of 3 years and he got it; I bet that was a hard to negotiate position but he got it! 

I for one think he got the short end of the stick "money" in the deal, he probably deserved much more as well as some of the staff that started it all with him.  But as with any visionary/rebel, he is probably looking into building something cooler and different in the future rather than steer a ship that is already sailing. It would be boring and a spirit killer.

He entrusted the company to KK and I believe it was the best decision at the time.  He has done a great job of expanding this place, and I am willing to find out what 2011 brings.  It's a thankless job for the most part and I wouldn't want to be in his shoes but I respect the guy, because lets face it he is our horse and you don't change your bets mid race.

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