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« on: September 06, 2011, 06:56 »
got pictures approved more than 24h ago but they do not show up in portfolio yet, did someone else noticed that?
Took them somewhat more tha 24h to appear for me, which is nothing alarming imho. Actually it's still a lot faster then most other sites.
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« on: September 06, 2011, 06:53 »
I'm a few bucks from a payout, if that's done, I'm gone. It's miniscule money they made me, but losing even that to these crooks would be infuriating, and I don't trust a word of imps like Lobo or that JJwhateva' guy about getting the money.
My last word about this is that leaving them and taking some hit is actually an investment in your future.
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« on: September 06, 2011, 06:38 »
"If I don't like the way something is written or in this case the way a link is given, I would just move on to another thread."
Why did you respond to me than... by your own logic? : )
... You have expressed your opinion on a subject which is a tangent of the main subject, on which I have a different opinion. Your points are not invalid, ...
Why did suggest that I should have just skipped the thread than? : ) On bakclinks: make them nofollow, issue over.
If something irritates you enough skipping a thread is always an option, instead of continually trying to change a decision that someone doesn't want to change. The OP has read the thread and is sticking to her decision, so yeah the issue is over.
This sounds like that accroding to you, some ppl should make a point, and others should just skip it, altho you admit they have a point : ) I see this, the same problem all the time: people fail at the most basic points of logic, even their own logic. Thats why I get bored with msg boards, most don't want arguments (the main function of boards like this) they just want to hear stuff they fancy : ) They don't even realize this while doing it: they hear something they dont like, they will start arguing that people shouldn't argue, what an oxymoron. Unless they grow up from this attitude, communicating with them is just useless, so I'm off, thx.
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« on: September 06, 2011, 05:50 »
"If I don't like the way something is written or in this case the way a link is given, I would just move on to another thread."
Why did you respond to me than... by your own logic? : )
... You have expressed your opinion on a subject which is a tangent of the main subject, on which I have a different opinion. Your points are not invalid, ...
Why did suggest that I should have just skipped the thread than? : ) On bakclinks: make them nofollow, issue over.
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« on: September 06, 2011, 03:00 »
My only real soruce for all of this is SS forums. I can count the ppl complaining there on my two hands, maybe some more, and thats not a lot.... and I still see things as I previously wrote, that most guy/gals who keep complaining there have pretty (or very) mediocre stuff on display. or worse.
I think youre right even there were a few hundred complaining were talking a fraction of a percent of the contributor population. I also seriously doubt that newbies fare better than the old pros, probably dont complain as much not having the attitude that we have a god given right to have everything accepted. Also, lots of folks seem to evaluate quality on a purely technical level if its not what the sites want its a useless as the blurry pet snapshot.
You guys really must be new to stock. Do you realize that a good number of the people who post on SS these days are fairly new or they are old timers trying to make money off of the newbies?
No, we can't read numbers so thx : ) Btw what does that have to do with anything?
Again you seem to have missed the point... if you are making your determinations based on what you read on the SS forums your information will be skewed because the board is missing feedback from a good many people in the industry. After all isn't that what this board is all about a place where we can discuss issues freely. There are a good number of long term submitters who based on their work are very well respected in the stock photography world. Some of those submitters are reporting that they are having significant issues with rejections and some of them are not. Again very inconsistent reviews.
Several of you are relatively new to stock and to photography yet you are reporting that you have very high acceptance rates consistently. I am certain that you would not discount their efforts, professional feedback or merit by suggesting based on your own limited experience that your work deserves to be accepted while someone who has put in the work long term and has proven that they produce work that is far above the norm both in content and technical merit does not deserve to be accepted.
You seem to have missed the point that after all you said you should be presenting some other source of data thats comparable to thousand or tens of thousands #. : ) "Several of you are relatively new to stock and to photography yet you are reporting that you have very high acceptance rates consistently." Several, maybe (according to who / what?). So what? Stats based on 'several', again? " while someone who has put in the work long term and has proven that they produce work that is far above the norm both in content and technical merit does not deserve to be accepted." Oh yeah, I remember, those guys mentioned who have been doing photography anf stock for decades, these 'kings of stock' sittin on top piss poor galleries? : ) Or that other guy who mixes repulsive plastic low-end CG with low end photos in below-amateurish photoshop hacks, that we are supposed to see as brilliant, creative?
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« on: September 05, 2011, 16:02 »
The trouble with Shutterstock is the size of the library.They need to reduce the library of non selling files.With contributrors having the option to send these non selling files to a new colllection>>>FREE MICROSTOCK LIBRARY.
Now for it to work there needs to be a few simple steps/restrictions.Buyers will need to spend a set amount a month to gain access to these free files.A set amount of 'FREE' content can only be downloaded within that month.If after,a set period of time,these non selling files still attract no downloads they get deactivated.
NEWSFLASH:SHUTTERSTOCK NOW OFERS FREE FILES.
That's what brainstorming is all about.Original and thought provoking ideas....Can/will it work???
Free files that you can only download if you pay. You are a genius : )
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« on: September 05, 2011, 15:58 »
My only real soruce for all of this is SS forums. I can count the ppl complaining there on my two hands, maybe some more, and thats not a lot.... and I still see things as I previously wrote, that most guy/gals who keep complaining there have pretty (or very) mediocre stuff on display. or worse.
I think youre right even there were a few hundred complaining were talking a fraction of a percent of the contributor population. I also seriously doubt that newbies fare better than the old pros, probably dont complain as much not having the attitude that we have a god given right to have everything accepted. Also, lots of folks seem to evaluate quality on a purely technical level if its not what the sites want its a useless as the blurry pet snapshot.
You guys really must be new to stock. Do you realize that a good number of the people who post on SS these days are fairly new or they are old timers trying to make money off of the newbies?
No, we can't read numbers so thx : ) Btw what does that have to do with anything?
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« on: September 05, 2011, 13:44 »
"...however what you are sharing does confirm what alot of us have been suspecting!"
Which is? Imho this issue looks the same as the one in the "shutterstock financial trouble" thread. Some have complaints and ppl blow it out of proportions not realizing it's just a few out of thounsands.
Sounds like it is pretty widespread. But is it an issue of some crazy reviewers, or just Shutterstock raising standards? I don't see a lot of photos posted, so hard to say.
My only real soruce for all of this is SS forums. I can count the ppl complaining there on my two hands, maybe some more, and thats not a lot.... and I still see things as I previously wrote, that most guy/gals who keep complaining there have pretty (or very) mediocre stuff on display. or worse.
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« on: September 05, 2011, 13:40 »
C'mon these 3 clicks they get from here don't do diddly squat, but this is extremely annoying for anyone who actually wants to check the links out. Common sense plz.
Feel free not to check out the links then. 
You will achieve 'ppl not checking them out' by posting this way. Short attention spans you know... Just post proper links plz, why is that so hard?
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« on: September 05, 2011, 12:57 »
C'mon these 3 clicks they get from here don't do diddly squat, but this is extremely annoying for anyone who actually wants to check the links out. Common sense plz.
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« on: September 05, 2011, 12:33 »
"...however what you are sharing does confirm what alot of us have been suspecting!"
Which is? Imho this issue looks the same as the one in the "shutterstock financial trouble" thread. Some have complaints and ppl blow it out of proportions not realizing it's just a few out of thounsands.
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« on: September 05, 2011, 09:24 »
Any news guys, are you gettin' sheat through? My new work is like a river that can't get through the dam  .
I have been submitting stock since 2004 and like you I know some very high end well respected shooters who either have quit submitting because of the ridiculous rejections or they are experiencing very high rejections rates.
Actually we should ask ourselves why as a rule, new inexperienced submitters are not experiencing high rejection rates. It just goes to show that we make judgements based on our own experience. Either a good many of us been assigned a malicious group of reviewers or there is something amiss at SS.
It looks to me like new submitters are having fewer review issues.
"very high end well respected shooters who either have quit submitting because of the ridiculous rejections or they are experiencing very high rejections rates."
like who? I hope you'r not referring to those few fellas living on SS forums, pimping their "very nice shot of my cute dog in my very nice garden" type high end stuff : )
Not a snow balls chance in hell.
So who is it then? I generaly know what I'm doing, and got some decent skills mostly because of my art trainig (that goes back a long time but I'm kinda new to photography), but my equipment is very-very far from apt, and I get very few rejections.
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« on: September 05, 2011, 08:59 »
Any news guys, are you gettin' sheat through? My new work is like a river that can't get through the dam .
I have been submitting stock since 2004 and like you I know some very high end well respected shooters who either have quit submitting because of the ridiculous rejections or they are experiencing very high rejections rates.
Actually we should ask ourselves why as a rule, new inexperienced submitters are not experiencing high rejection rates. It just goes to show that we make judgements based on our own experience. Either a good many of us been assigned a malicious group of reviewers or there is something amiss at SS.
It looks to me like new submitters are having fewer review issues.
"very high end well respected shooters who either have quit submitting because of the ridiculous rejections or they are experiencing very high rejections rates." like who? I hope you'r not referring to those few fellas living on SS forums, pimping their "very nice shot of my cute dog in my very nice garden" type high end stuff : )
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« on: September 05, 2011, 08:25 »
Any company with a logo and brand that uses the Hobo font, is not to be taken seriously. Bad logo design, bad site design, bad images. No thanks.
how 'bout comic sans? thats a funny font for a funny site : )
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« on: September 04, 2011, 05:32 »
don't
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« on: September 03, 2011, 13:54 »
You should take in to consideration that 'more and more' ppl complaining are a handfull while thousands seem to have no problem
I will never understand why people try to take position for or against a company based on their personal emotions.
It is about business. Not friendship. There are numerous threads on the shutterstock forum as well as at least one thread on this forum. Personally I am not affected as you aren`t neither. Nevertheless I am interested in the cause of the trouble since I have no doubt in the liability of some of the affected People.
It is in all our interest to monitor our companies, even more if we like them, and take some action of whatever form if it is necessary. This is why "Free press" and "freedom of speech" is so important to - at least the more educated - People. At least some people on this Forum seem to feel offended as soon as any form of critics occurs on a company which may bring them money, or more money than others, which seems to be cause enough for infinite trust. Just because you never had an accident with your new car that doesn`t mean that it is impossible.
Wake up!
So how do you 'monitor' this company? I'd be glad to know.
"and take some action of whatever form if it is necessary."
You tell me that. I'v been urging everyone to delete / deactivate their ports on Istock f.e. from day 1, to make an example of them. These are filthy crooks, bandits of the information highway, you have to hit them as much below the belt as possible, because that's all they understand. Take them down. But all you do is talk, talk, talk, argue amongst each other about possible consequenses of certain numbers and precentages that you actually havent got the slightest clue about : ) Hey most times you haven't got the a slightest clue about what the data that you haven't got the slightest clue about actually repsents... but the discussion fills pages. Just sad...
Quite simple....just watch the Forums and observe if this problem is getting solved or not. Further actions off course depend on how it developes. If they start to not pay YOU e.g. you are at least not caught out of zero and know better how to treat the problem (e.g. if people who had the same problem found a solution). Or, in the worst case, you had time to prepare tos ay goodbye to that company....I don`t wanna speculate ehre, it all depends, but you are NEVER without options.
That just means your monitoring a handful of guys on the msg board. But you got it right at the end: its all speculation.
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« on: September 03, 2011, 04:47 »
Hi friends,
yes I'm agree that the whole design style,logo, web, etc is not the best in the world maybe. They told me that they are working on it, that's only a sketch. But, you have an example with Canstockphoto, I think their design is horrible but I'm selling many licenses there, that's the most important for me 
I have post this thread because I think it's an opportunity to enter a new site without any effort. If it doesn't work, OK, you haven't loose any time, but if it works (obviously in other level than Shutter, iStock...) I think it will have been well worth it.
All of us are free to decide what we do, but I think we should be respectful of the work and efforts of others, even if we don't like it.
Sorry for my english
I'll design a sleek site for you for a decent fee, beleive me. It will make other ms sites look like a msg board for toothless hillbillies, 'cmon
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« on: September 03, 2011, 04:43 »
You should take in to consideration that 'more and more' ppl complaining are a handfull while thousands seem to have no problem
I will never understand why people try to take position for or against a company based on their personal emotions.
It is about business. Not friendship. There are numerous threads on the shutterstock forum as well as at least one thread on this forum. Personally I am not affected as you aren`t neither. Nevertheless I am interested in the cause of the trouble since I have no doubt in the liability of some of the affected People.
It is in all our interest to monitor our companies, even more if we like them, and take some action of whatever form if it is necessary. This is why "Free press" and "freedom of speech" is so important to - at least the more educated - People. At least some people on this Forum seem to feel offended as soon as any form of critics occurs on a company which may bring them money, or more money than others, which seems to be cause enough for infinite trust. Just because you never had an accident with your new car that doesn`t mean that it is impossible.
Wake up!
So how do you 'monitor' this company? I'd be glad to know. "and take some action of whatever form if it is necessary." You tell me that. I'v been urging everyone to delete / deactivate their ports on Istock f.e. from day 1, to make an example of them. These are filthy crooks, bandits of the information highway, you have to hit them as much below the belt as possible, because that's all they understand. Take them down. But all you do is talk, talk, talk, argue amongst each other about possible consequenses of certain numbers and precentages that you actually havent got the slightest clue about : ) Hey most times you haven't got the a slightest clue about what the data that you haven't got the slightest clue about actually repsents... but the discussion fills pages. Just sad...
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« on: September 02, 2011, 19:04 »
It's interesting to see how ppl talking about 'the future of microstock' almost always excuse themselves from considering the fact that tens of thousands of shots are uploaded every week. : ) Of course you never achieve anything, you can't even have an honest conversation about the situation with yourelves! Just childish... yeah i'm a troll, sure...
That is a concern, but I think things will move more niche for some people. At least, that's where I think my future is. I see selling from my own site and a few other smaller sites. I'll probably sell a lot less, but get to keep more. That's just my theory.
I wish you luck, and it would great news if thats succesful, but I have serious doubts. : /
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« on: September 02, 2011, 19:00 »
Is it just me, or do microstock contributors seem have this image of ppl so clueless, they can be robbed in broad daylight?
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« on: September 02, 2011, 18:56 »
You should take in to consideration that 'more and more' ppl complaining are a handfull while thousands seem to have no problem
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« on: September 02, 2011, 05:10 »
^^^It's still quite easy to find things that have little competition. Most people seem to upload similar stuff, I don't do people photos. I'm not bothered about the number of new images being uploaded every week, the commission cuts and other continual detrimental changes are my main concern. The fact that the sites can change the rules whenever they want and I get a financial hit takes away my motivation to continue working with them. I still think they would make more money by paying us a reasonable commission and not making so many changes. They should be looking at other ways to increase profits, I'm sure most of the sites could improve the EL licences and sell a lot more of them. They could be much tougher with the copyright violators and make more people aware that high quality licensed images enhance their business. Taking money from their suppliers and making detrimental changes might work short term but I don't see it as a good long term strategy.
I think having to upload the same thing as anybody else is one of the the biggest failures of microstock, and it is the cause of being expandable. I tried doing a bit more unique variations on popular themes and they only lead to lot less / little / no sales, even slight variations, nothing extraordinary... just as I expected. Imho the 'be unique' line is total bulls**t for micro. It might work on RM where a big sale on 'your special item' thats someone falls in love with gets wortwhile money - in micro you likely to get the same rare sale on it..... for $1. You do the same generic things as everybody else or sales are useless. Implications are obvious.
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« on: September 02, 2011, 03:13 »
It's interesting to see how ppl talking about 'the future of microstock' almost always excuse themselves from considering the fact that tens of thousands of shots are uploaded every week. : ) Of course you never achieve anything, you can't even have an honest conversation about the situation with yourelves! Just childish... yeah i'm a * troll, sure...
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« on: September 02, 2011, 02:47 »
Almost non of you complaining about rejections ever show any of the shots, which means opening the threads about them is useless
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« on: September 01, 2011, 07:10 »
You mean buying one that already exists, or creatinging a new one? if the latter .com domains are registered somewhat faster than the rest, mail service with several usernames @ yourdomain is usually included. When broswing for sites that do the service, try to check out their admin surface and go for the simplest, some make administrating your site very confusing escpecially if you are new to this.
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