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Adobe Stock / Re: payment delay
« on: March 17, 2010, 10:34 »
I think Gostwyck is right that this is more likely "growing pains".
I'm on the verge of giving them the middle finger. Altough I'm bronze for years, they still pay me 3$ = 2 euro for EL. I heard I should beg them to get upgraded. Luckily I'm not depending on stock for my income. One of these days they will just get that middle finger.  ;D

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You should certainly upload to Shutterstock. I won't give you my referral link since this is an honest advice. You will enjoy a honeymoon period at Shutterstock up till 6 months after registration. Use that period well, and upload at least 50/100 images per month, not more. Extend your exposure by giving them 20-40 images per week after that. Resist the tempatation to upload your full port at once.

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If there was a link back to the image on IS and the watermark was preserved, you could argue very well that this is fair use, as the image was shown for critique or review.
Another case is where a local Philippines travel blog took a thumb from iStock (a landmark, one of my good sellers) and posted it, IS watermark included. No reference to IS or me whatsoever. The blog owner added a note in the article that it should be against the law to ruin such good shots with an ugly watermark over it.  ;D

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I use very simple script that takes n random images from a large pool and uploads to every agency every night.
Reviewers on  ::) some sites  ::) have private tools like matching images on EXIF dates. That won't work unless you edit the EXIFs.  ;D

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Microstock breeds same-ness, I think buyers can get annoyed by that. Offering them a way to search for images that are a little out of the mainstream would help sales, I think, not hurt.
Sameness is a PIA on most sites for buyers. BigStock is the worst at the moment. On DT, you can easily avoid it by altering the default search criterion from relevance to downloads. On IS, it's not possible to bypass the best match and get rid of their bias. That's why I buy my 3 images per weekday on DT. It's just the fastest way I know to get the right and acceptable image. I'm not going to spend 20 mins for every image to be found, that isn't worth my 2 euro commission.

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Image Sleuth / Re: Fotolia images on Flickr
« on: March 16, 2010, 16:03 »
In other words if they are using the Flickr account as storage or sharing vehicle (between say project group members), it is not violation of any rules. Except that it sounds pretty stupid.
You can easily obtain that by setting those images "private" on Flickr, and then only your contacts/friends can see/download those. He didn't: all images are public and downloadable. That alone shows the criminal intent of unlawful redistribution.

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I think you are protesting too much.
There is the issue of convenience, as stated before. Today I had a series with related (not similar) images from one shoot (about 20), and I wanted to have that one done to get it out of my head. I could only submit 10, and it's very annoying I have to interrupt whatever I'm doing tomorrow just to continue submitting the rest. I can imagine that the big guys/gals with a much tighter time schedule than us amateurs will be more annoyed. A weekly upload limit would be better, and Achilles suggested on the forum that they could adapt the upload scheme.

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Seems to me some of the other sites could benefit from having some kind "uniqueness" criteria for searching on images, kind of like what DT does with "Editors Choice" images.
The "Editor's Choice" isn't that much functional. I'm with DT since half 2005 but what I've uploaded till half 2006 was mostly crap judged by today's standards. Yet all my "Choice" images come from that period. I asked on the forum and and admin said they wouldn't be updated.

As to your 'uniqueness' idea, well, microstock is about sales, not about wow-images that don't sell. The level system relies on sales, and that's the best criterion for whatever, imho.

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I'm uploading on PM right now...more than 80 images...long and hard work.
I'm not prepared to do that any more. If they can't keep promises about a new upload system, how can they keep promises about marketing?

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: everything in the world is copyrighted
« on: March 15, 2010, 21:22 »
I'm always checking at 300% around the edges. It can happen that edges are bleached out (especially hair) when your background is more than 1.5 stop overexposed. It's not because it's done in cam that it is good per se (I plead guilty).

But
  - why should we care about anything that's only "noticeable" at 300%?
  - you're describing a photographic/lighting issue, but their rejection implies a Photoshopped isolation.  You can't feather, or creae a "rough" edge, photographically.

At 300% it's easier to see and to remedy, but you will notice it at 100% too. To follow-up the fate of that series, it was first rejected for keywords, then for a logo (rightly so), then for "feathering", then a second time for "feathering". With the third reject, I finally got a decent explanation: areas out of focus should be feathered very softly as a hard feathering there looks "unnatural". The image can be seen here. The arm was slightly out of focus so I feathered it with 3px, but apparently it was not enough.

I have a disagreement about this with the reviewer, I'm afraid. Overwhites can be used as such on a white screen or paper background, but many people use them to cut those out easily. With a wide feathering, this is much more difficult as you can't get rid easily from the transition shades between the white background and the object. The same reason I avoid shadows under an isolated object. If the buyer wants to use the image as is, he can easily blur the out of focus edges himself, over any added background, and that would look "natural".

As a final step to recover the series, I combined the 6 21Mpx images into one, reducing the 120Mpx to 6Mpx, so that any out-of-focus would be gone (see here). Now this one was rejected with the reason: "please upload all 6 images individually".  ;D

It will teach me a lesson never to resubmit on IS again, even if the reject reason is simple like forgot to attach a MRF. As soon as you've corrected those, they will find another reason to reject. It's simply not worth the hassle and the time to be sold now and then for 0.19$ as Xs, when it was sold on SS already a few times for double that amount.

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New Sites - General / Re: The Great Silence
« on: March 15, 2010, 12:26 »
Pixamba forum is up and running
Yes and the last message there was one month ago, asking why no images were reviewed since last December. The site owner asked two months ago to hold off any uploads since he was making a new "media service", whatever that might be. I uploaded a bunch last August-September (with a lot of effort since there is no MRF module) and had 2$ sales around that time. Nothing since. Time to quit?

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Tthe point I was trying to make in my earlier post is that I don't understand the business side of this decision. Images produced by "image factories" have very high sales potential. If I was an owner of an agency, I would strongly encourage them to upload, not restricting their content.
In case you followed the thread on DT, the remark has been made by "burst-mode" uploaders that a weekly limit would be much more convenient. Why don't you just ask Achilles personally by a comment on one of this photos? He is very approachable (unlike what has been posted here sometimes) and he will certainly take your thoughts serious.

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But, if there is a need to become personal:)
It wasn't intended as personal at all. You are one of the few monuments of microstock with a fabulous port, and the point was more that if even you isn't affected, others certainly won't. You are right about convenience if you tend to work in bursts, and if your habit is for instance shooting/editing 5 days per week, and uploading all 1 day.
The ones really affected would be the "image factories", production houses that host several photographers, or photographers that outsource all postprocessing.

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DepositPhotos / Re: Who has had sales at DepositPhotos?
« on: March 14, 2010, 21:38 »
I'm up to three sales on Depositis...Now I'm just trying to figure out if I'm going to spend it on a Range Rover or a new sailboat.  :)
What about an underwater scooter with lightboxes in an underwater house?  ;)
On topic: I played it fair and gave them all recent stuff I had, not just the 500. They did a great job finding (near) duplicates. For now, I put them in hibernation and will log in once in a while to check. In September-October, it will be clear if they're going to make it. I wish them luck. They have a beautiful collection, so it's up to them now to make it all work.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: istock has roughly 85k contributors
« on: March 13, 2010, 21:16 »
Why do people buy 500 euro iPods when you can call and txt with a 20 euro cellphone?
Why do people buy Maseratis when they are never going to race with it and never can use them at top speed on public roads?
Why do women buy expensive diamonds when you can't tell the difference from cheap glass?

As Socrates said to his wife Xanthippe when she took a long time to dress up to go to the theater: You're not going there to watch, but to be watched.

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Should I worry?
The only way those images can go is to TS. I would check there periodically.

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I am not sure what they are focusing on though....
Be logical. 20 per day is more than 7,000 per year, that is 70% of your current port over 5 years. Are you really throttled down with "only" 7,000 images per year, especially if you're working alone and not with an editing crew like Arcurs? Are you telling that DT is not commercial with 7,000 per year, and IS is, with 750 or 1,000 per year?
If you produce in bursts, having particular days of 50 images ready for instance, the only thing you will lose is convenience, since you will have to submit them over a period of several days. It's still more convenient than on IS with weekly limits.

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It would be better to have weekly limits.
+1 - but, if you produce in bursts (like me) you can always upload in bulk and let them hibernate in the "unfinished" section. It's a bit like Deepmeta for IS where you can prepare/mrf-attach/disambiguate your excess images in advance, then let that queue slowly run empty by a weekly upload. Reviewing is an important part of the cost of running a stock site and you keep your reviewers happy by a steady amount per day.

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This is the telling statement at the head of the post:
"The gap between contributors with high approval ratio and low approval ratio is set high and several drawbacks were reported. Low AR contributors find it difficult to recover a mistake they did in the initial stages. High AR contributors usually don't reach the upper limit, generating less self-selection as the contributor hurries to increase his database exposure.This dillutes RPD, lowers the royalty percentage of the contributor and attracts more subscription downloads (leading again to a lower RPD)."

Very pointed.
It is very pointed, but only in the unique DT image level system. Most revenue comes from level 2+ images, so you should avoid uploading similars since this means competing with yourselve (and attracting subs, which is new to me). People like Yuri had no problem reaching the top on IS with just 15 per week, so those won't be harmed that much by "only" 140 per week. On the contrary, being more selective on similars might paradoxically increase their revenue. A sub site like SS needs a totally different approach. There are no levels so you can upload similars but mixed of several shoots per batch, so that every shoot will have extended exposure.

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From your experience,  does editorial footage sell well?
In general, Editorial is a very neglected sector in microstock. As my sales of easy-to-copy commercial models in studio keeps lagging behind, my Editorial keeps selling well. If you have a unique location you should exploit it. There is a huge need for editorial in the media, on blogs, with governmental and NGOs. They don't care about releases. It's a different market barely served by microstock till now.

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Dear Member:

We regret to inform you that as of 21 March 2010, www.thephotostorage.com will no longer continue operating as a stock photography agency.
On or before 21 March 2010 all files and accounts will be removed from our servers.
We thank you for your support and patient all these months.

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Good luck guys!

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Site Related / Re: Rank lists now have totals
« on: March 12, 2010, 10:35 »
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Image Sleuth / Re: Stolen images on a foreign site?
« on: March 12, 2010, 10:28 »
Yeah - unfortunately the page came back up. I was hoping it was down because we got it ... guess not.
The real point is whether it's worth your time and energy. Those sites don't really pose a threat to your sales. Those are kids wanting a cellphone background for free. I don't even understand why the Bulgarian puts his time in it. He is probably bored. You can plan shoots in that time, market your wedding shoots, research uncovered concepts. We can only hit the guy by attacking his money source, Google Ads. But that should be a collective effort.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: Istockphoto rejection because MR date
« on: March 12, 2010, 08:17 »
Hey FD we must have crossed over posts, were going off topic a bit here but where did you get the information that a contract has to mention obligations of both parties and that there has to be two copies?
From my brother on Yahoo Messenger having his daily lunch chat. He studied law but he is a politician now. So I don't know if he can be trusted. :P His message was also that the existence of an employer-employee relation or rather a freelancer/contractor relation between model and photographer would have to be tested in a court. One element is sub-ordinance/authority, second is regularity or frequency. I can image that a judge would rule for freelance/sub-contractor status if you don't own a professional studio and if you infrequently shoot models, and in favor of employee if you are a full-time model photographer with an established studio. But this is just guesswork.

A contract can be anything you want, it doesn't have to be written it can be verbal, it doesn't have to mention obligations of both sides and there doesn't have to be two copies either, the things you mention would indeed make the contract more watertight but they're certainly not a must have as far as the law is concerned, same goes for witness signatures.
Yes but the burden of proof in case of a verbal contract renders it useless in case of a dispute. It's one word against another.

Anyways bringing up the employee point was useful, even if off-topic, since I didn't find it at any forum.

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