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13651
Everyone, exclusive or independants, have more chance of selling a fridge to an eskimoe, then reaching their targets. Its a confidance-trick just to make you more productive.
If we became more productive, our targets would be raised pdq. That's the real con-trick.
LifeLesson 001: never exceed your targets - the b*stards will think they're too low.
So from the firm's point of view, totally counter productive.
The old levels were far more likely to make us more productive, and co-operative.

13652
BTW, bloody lovely pic of the woman. Thats NOT garbage, btw. Well done!
The book covers aren't my photo. I can't find its agency via Tineye and haven't searched agencies manually.

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It's up to agencies to remove the files.
No one is going to take take down their own images. It's just another case of it being rational for the individual to leave them up but damaging to the industry as a whole.
So you subscibe to lagereek's ludicrous proposition that buyers say, "Oh, look, there's a photo of a Dwarf Bittern that has only sold once in four years, so I'm not going to buy a photo of a studio model on a white background, or a mega-fantabulous modelreleased photo of an oil rig"?
I thought the idea of a 'general' stock agency was to try to reach as many markets and meet as many needs as possible?

13654
Just this week I had a fairly large extended license sale (the second one for this photo) for a rather poor shot of an obscure subject (only two sales in 4 years, both ELs).

I've noticed that ELs are often on older files that haven't sold a lot. It's as though buyers are making a 'best guess' as to which photos are least likely to appear on rival products.
So that you don't get this embarassing/annoying scenario:
and

13655
It's back down again. Will it be gone again quicker than a thread to Lobo's padlock?

13656
I checked the first 10 pages of the discussion forum and saw no "thumbs down" threads, only "thumbs up."  I guess everything's rosy at IS.  Who knew?
Yup, even that targets post has been neutralised again.

13657
I'm almost  too embarrased to admit this  :-[, but I have no idea how to thumbs up/down threads there.  :-[
Dont be embarrased, its useless knowledge anyways ;)
On the right hand side of each post next to 'permalink' there's a thumbs up and down symbol you can click.
Oh, I remember seeing permalink before. It must be removed, with the thumbs, if you're Lobotomised: I did a 'Find:permalink' to be sure.
 ;D

13658
I'm almost  too embarrased to admit this  :-[, but I have no idea how to thumbs up/down threads there.  :-[

13659
I wouldn't mind if they just deleted everything that doesn't sell after a year and they accepted more images but that's not happening.
I sure as h*ll would. One day someone else might want a photo of a Dwarf Bittern, and I need the RCs.

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PLUS remember not to forget that if everyone worked hard to raise their RCs, they would just raise the targets. It's a bell graph, only a set percentage of contributors get each percentage commission. Insane and dated, and makes insane any attempt to help each other to raise our game.

13661
Newbie Discussion / Re: Photo of models question
« on: June 04, 2011, 12:59 »
Be sure you let the putative model know how widely the images may legally be used (to promote any product, e.g. Viagra, or cause (e.g. religion or politics etc.), include some worst-case scenario examples, and explain that the images can be manipulated heavily in their end use. Doubly do this if not paying 'models'. E.g. if the person is a well known supporter or opposer of a cause, they could appear in adverts for the opposite point of view. The terms of use usually say they can't imply that a person endorses the product/cause, but of course that's subjective. Also that the images may be misused, and usually the worst that will happen is that the agency may issue a cease and desist.
Also be prepared that if you get a model from e.g. Model Mayhem, they may not show up.
But hey, there are lots and lots of models pics out there.  ;)

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: Istock Views Poll
« on: June 04, 2011, 11:15 »
Hmmmm.
I did it in six-month increments from Jan 2007 (I started uploading mid-Dec '06) until now.
Huge variations, but if these figures are accurate, it looks as though I had 164,979 views from Jan 2007 (when i had about 30 files online) til July 07, then 406,004 views from July - Dec 07, but only 6,911 (sic) views from July - Dec '10, which I'm sure can't be right.
Jan-May 11 is 15,592. The numbers are incredibly up and down - and I've double-checked them. I wonder how accurate it is?

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Exept Shutterstock, there, everything will eventually sell.
Why is everyone so dead against throwing away old garbage, you all like to sit there and watch them? thinking, Oh! I too that masterpiece back in 2005. Or is it just paranoid delution that it will sell and you might be short of a few cents.
Why 'paranoid'?

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but also all the negative publicity that would force them to oblige.

Sorry to dissappoint you, but I don't think IS cares for negative publicity.

If media reported about ALL of the major players boycotting them, buyers not being to able to find their content (I imagine many go straight to someone's port and search within it), if Yuri gave a couple of really negative interviews and ask people on youtube to boycott IS, explaining why (he's great at that, he's not only smart, but has a degree in psychology), they would oblige, because it would cause massive drops in sales as well;)
The only way Yuri could hurt iStock would be by totally withdrawing his port. If he just asked people not to buy from iStock it would be a bit silly if he were still selling files there. I guess he's 'happy enough' with 20%, since he has apparently never made moves to be exclusive (except in Vectors IIRC) ior even a non-exclusive 'exclusive' like Rubberball. Of course, like anyone else, I'm, guessing (again) he'd be happier with a fairer cut. Unless he's the one that 'money isn't what makes him happy'.

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Sorry, hit quote instead of modify.

13666
Oh, h*ck double post again. Need a nice cup of tea! Sorry.

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Kelly Thompson on 8th September 2010 - http://www.istockphoto.com/forum_messages.php?threadid=252322&page=1
But, we expect to see our total royalty payout increase by more than 30% next year, from $1.7-million per week to well over $2-million per week. Make no mistake, the total amount of money iStock contributors are making is going up.

I wonder if he would provide independently audited figures at the end of the year to see if his speculation worked out.
Still, even if so, it wouldn't hide the fact that they were making even more off the back of our efforts.

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Sue, I ment a direct email to contributor relations, this is much quicker then a scout ticket, if you do use your regular scout ticket, don't open 1 for each photo but 1 scout ticket for the whole batch (even though they ask no to).
It is a direct email to contributor relations which is outstanding since February. I did have a reply to a later email asking if it was lost, telling me it wasn't lost and would be replied to in due course. Note that it was only asking why I don't get the mass emails though opted in, not some great issue that needs tons of research. Previous replies on the same subject said it was something to do with my email address, but I have given them two valid email addys, both of which get emails in when I request payment (split between the two, don't know why!).
As my Scout tickets are outstanding since mid-March, resubmitting was actually faster, even at the c10 days for editorial inspections. It's all relative.

13669
Here's how the targets are demotivational:
I'm almost halfway to the 30% target at the moment (that's not good because we have three slump months coming up). So I guess I could push a bit more to try to ensure I stay on 30%. But I'm realistic enough to know I'll never reach 40,000, so I'd be far better to focus my energy on Alamy or on getting into that other agency (huge time investment on producing work that wouldn't 'fit' onto iStock - and possibly not Alamy - if rejected, and totally dependent on getting at least 'decent' natural light).
Obviously iStock couldn't GAFF: I could delete all my files and they'd barely notice. But if everyone did that, they'd notice. Of course, that's not likely to happen: what's more likely to happen is that more people drop exclusivity, and they'd gain even more (unless that person had a lot of V/A.)
It may be that they're going to introduce non-exclusive V/A soon (we know that Agency is already not totally exclusive), following P+. They'd rather pay out the lower non-exclusive commissions, because of that thing I still don't understand about how profitability (%age) is more important than profit (bottom line).

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Regarding the caption thing, we get wrongfull rejections ALL the time. a scout ticket or direct ticket to contirubutor relations will fix this, just give them a list of all the wrongfull rejections, so no need to waste more time (just have some patience).
You get three Scout tickets a month, so that would have taken >16 months to get through the caption rejections alone. And as mentioned above, I have outstanding Scout tickets from 13th March, so it would be more than 'some' patience. As above, I have an even older support ticket still waiting for a reply (third sending).

As for distilleries etc, I never get replies from anyone (snail mail, email, phone, turning up in person) for my requests for property releases, or even just simple 'releases' for editorial. Funnily enough, I had no bother getting permission to get in to do shootings for the course I'm doing, except one place which has a flat 'no photography' rule, but none of these places would give permission for the pics to be stock editorial shots. So rather limited to places and angles you can shoot from the street, which everyone else has done. A lot of that stuff I put on Alamy anyway (1500+ shots and growing). And there's still the problem with the constant rain!

13671
now i have the 25% but in march i reached the 30% , so someone know when will be the updates of the rate of earning...

in my schedule tab continue to appear 25% and the update still missing...

If I were you, I'd email support. Since RC is a new thing, I doubt anyone knows the answer here. Please let us know.

I wrote on the istock forum soon after the announcement of joize, but I had no answer ... I tried to rewrite this morning, before it was the 24 in Canada, but  ( L O B O ) canceled me the request 2 times threatened to ban access to the forum because he thinks no one at that (it was only 23.30) have been able to answer me ....

I wonder, at least the question could leave, instead of deleting it.

Patience, poppet: I've got an outstanding Support ticket from February, and it's only asking why I don't get the official emails despite being opted in. It's disappeared from my open Tickets list, but we've been assured  :P that doesn't mean they've been deleted. (My earliest visible open tickets are two Scout tickets raised on 13th March).
In any case, they've promised to back date any increases.
The second post from Joyze in that thread says:
"What happens if Ive already reached the next level in these new targets? Well be retro paying the royalties. Next week well announce the schedule of when you can expect the retro pay and well also announce when all of the information will be changed on the website."

13672
Yes, I would encourage everyone else to clean up their portfolios or perhaps delete them altogether. Thank you  ;)
:D ;D :D

13673
Do as you will. I had a sale of a file overnight which had also sold on Wednesday - weird when it only has 9 sales altogether (in 3+ years) and only one sale in the past year.
Whoops, it is suddenly (for goodness knows what reason, but no V/A in the search) the top file in the best match that would most likely be used to find it. So ha, not 'garbage', just best match shenanigans. A different pic earlier in the week which had its first sale (L) in four years.
I delete occasionally, but generally don't. You can never tell: I was never happy with the light on a particular photo, but took months before I could get it in better light. I meant to delete the original, but by the time I noticed that I hadn't, I realised that it was out-selling the one with, to anyone's eyes, the better light and background. There's just no telling.

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I noticed that several posts have been deleted without trace over the past couple of days. You only know if you catch a forum saying that Lobo made the last post, but when you go into the forum, there's no Lobo post there within the stated time span ...
Like some people on the discussion group, I've never managed to 'catch' the stupidly-named 'LiveChat' actually being live, even during iStock working hours. Around the time the new targets were announced, the LiveChat icon disappeared completely for a short time, not even greyed-out. Maybe there's only one live-chatter, so when she's on a call or on a break or at the loo, it's unavailable.

13675
Sorry to hear you will proly be dropping to 25%, don't you think its worth putting in some more effort in order to keep your 30% ?
I would also consider dropping exclusivity if I where you...
Thank you for your concern.
For the past 3-4 weeks it's been constant rain or heavy overcast (we had twice the average May rainfall), so I'm back to the usual 'flat light' rejections. Yesterday was glorious blue sky, but harsh harsh light, and back to heavy overcast today.
Then there were the 40+ files I had to resubmit because of the false 'caption' rejections: all were accepted with exactly the same captions as were originally rejected, but still the waste of time, patience and goodwill - I did get an apology for these in the end, but didn't make up for the lost time.
Not jumping to submit exclusivity (but keeping a watching eye [1]). I'm hearing that people who do non-studio work (like me) have poor acceptance rates on the other micros, and two 'new independents' (non model, non studio) I'm following are thinking about going back to independence.
My tutor suggested  a particular agency for the sort of non-stock editorial-type work I've been doing recently, and I'll look into it, but you need a huge portfolio of all new, all different work to even be considered, so that would take a lot of time.
[1] I suspect the medium-term plan (perhaps it's too kind to imagine they actually have a plan) is to have iStock as only Vetta and Agency, and the rest will be dumped into Thinkstock.

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