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1401
« on: June 17, 2008, 07:30 »
i opted out there, when I started with them I didn't think they would have the volume to make it worthwhile and I am not keen on subs. Would be interested to hear if anyone is getting a lot sub sales, particularly in light of them now advertising as being cheapest subs program. on their site sitewhere I noticed the other day that they say 80% of their cataloque is available to subs purchasers.
Phil
1402
« on: June 12, 2008, 19:44 »
I got banned from their forum. Got a warning which was fair enough, made two very tame comments and now get 'sorry you are banned from the forum'. So I think big deal, fotolia and their forum has never greatly excited me, but last batch of 25 images (which has been accepted at ss 100%, StockXpert 100%, 123rf 24 out of 25 (others still waiting) so we are not talking rubbish) I get 23 out 25 rejected for type of image. And the entire batch is reviewed in less than 1 whole minute !! So I thinks someone is trying to give me a message  So to others it might be worth being careful what you say  on a side note. I am really beginning to wonder. I rank between 300-500 (currently 376) and this has made $1150 in 15 months. There must a lot of people making next to nothing there. When you look at the work involved in their categories etc, high rejections etc for how many people is it worth while? Personally I've made almost that much on Alamy in the last 2 weeks and am averaging not far from it monthly. I am really beginning to think you are right cphoto about moving more into macro. Phil
1403
« on: June 11, 2008, 20:55 »
i think having both is good. I would not like to see the total death of macro. My wife has searched for specific images about 5 or 6 times in the past months and not found anything that meets her needs (she's a historian and teacher). About a week or two ago, she was after an image, I told have a look on istock and DT and she said why bother they've never had anything she wanted before but she knows corbis had appropriate images (she just cant afford them  - the problem she has is images she's after (in this case a classroom looking like 1930's-40s) are mostly old images, taken on film and scanned so not many microstockers, then they would be 'not stock' stuff that sells every few years. most of my macro sales are of stuff that the micros dont want. a dark image picture of rubies in a rock 5 sales in 2+ years. nice at $150-$300 a sale, not good for micro, the microsites would lose money on it. also look at istock's comment that people dont want images that are all over the web. whether exclusive or not, images from micros are used a lot. my local 2 shopping centres in a town of 20000 people in country australia both have a heap of posters with microstock images images on them. if I was a local business and wanted to make my own poster and go looking for images I am quickly going to see a number of those same images (one centre is predominately Yuri's blonde / red hair model (the one with the great smile  and wonder whether images from this site is really a good idea. (just IMO)
1404
« on: June 11, 2008, 16:12 »
ShutterStock has something like over 103,000 photographers. Dreamstime like 38,097 A recent Google search turned up nearly 3000 mini microstock sites. 3 years ago many sites you upload to today were celebrating 500,000 images on line, now multi-million images on those same sites are old hat. More digital cameras have been sold in the last 7 years there then there were film cameras sold in the last 75 years world wide! Microstock sites are competing for, and cater to the buyer, rather than photographers. 8 years ago 96% of photographers on stock sites were professional...today 85% are hobbyist. 81% of stock photographers in one survey revealed they have less than $400 invested in their camera equipment. The average new stock photographer made $4500 in his first year 8 years ago. Today it less than $800.
My opinions: Subscriptions are here to stay. Stock sites are competing to be the next "Walmart" of stock images. Stock sites can afford dispose of disgruntled and troublesome photog's. Stock sites compete for selling prices rather than images or photographers since most sites share the same images and photographers.
Are you up to the task? Will you still be in this game 3 years from now? I ask all you less than mediocre, P&S stock "Wannabies" to voluntarily get out now.....leave. Find another hobby. Please make room for us photographers and graphic artists with a more promising future.
Cranky MIZ
I struggle to believe that half of shutterstock's 103000 submit regularly. I think more and more we will see people struggle with approval, get 20-50 images online find they dont sell much and give up. last year I read an article from a guy who ran a rm macrostock (forgot which one). he made the point that as far he and others were concerned the stock industry was flooded for photogs in the late 1980's, and that during 1990s the amount spent on stock photos didnt change but the number of photogs did. somehow I think that would be worse now 
1405
« on: June 11, 2008, 02:20 »
They brought this with the v2 debarcle last year and have been asked many many times to fix or improve it. As such, they are well aware of contributors concerns and have been for a long time. perhaps it should pointed out them in the context of how much they are losing 
1406
« on: June 04, 2008, 18:14 »
I've uploaded a heap but haven't had time to push more than a few images through the approval process thing. so far have got 50 accepted with 16 rejections (illustrated backgrounds). Those 50 are not spectacular but have got me 3 sales (about 60 euro) in the past 5-6 weeks.
So personally I am pretty happy so far.
1407
« on: June 04, 2008, 18:00 »
Personally it looks very interesting. I have been looking at the kelby training and a similar course in "smudge painting" held elsewhere, this may well tip the balance for me on doing the kelby stuff soon. I haven't got around to the smudge painting and painter as it is geared towards the fine art rather than stock, and priorities is towards stock at the moment. Looking through the lessons I see rembrant, monet etc etc. this is not a critisicm but I found it extremely ironic that it is on the fotolia blog. It is the exact sort of stuff that fotolia doesnt' want and rejects for 'type of photograph' they specifically say dont send us fine art   Phil
1408
« on: June 04, 2008, 00:03 »
you can sell RM anywhere as long as it is RM everywhere (cant sell an image as RF in one place and RM elsewhere) and each place is not exclusive. If one site sells an geographically exclusive licence (ie exclusive use in USA for 3 years) then you will have to inform other places you are selling image through that it is not available in that location.
Phil
1409
« on: June 03, 2008, 23:59 »
I quit there. Tried 2 months, didnt sell anything. It is not worth the time....
hi, it is a very different market and arena. people talk about building a portfolio for years. it took me over a year to get my first sale, it is now just over 20% of my stock income and every sale makes think that microstock is too cheap  not to mention that compared to the micros image acceptance is a breeze. Phil
1410
« on: June 02, 2008, 23:06 »
ROFLMAO.... thank you, just what I needed
1411
« on: June 01, 2008, 00:14 »
I went to have a look, first time been there. I clicked 'most downloaded' and noticed quite a number of the list were your's Laurin. Doesn't say much for the site in light of your post. One of those sites that may be better off not showing number of downloads  Phil
1412
« on: June 01, 2008, 00:04 »
hi, weird month for me, those ebbs and flows have been pretty turbulent  uploaded very little so no prizes for guessing which site had low sales, looked like a two week long weekend  at least pay rise brought it back up. IS 44% BME SS 18% DT 13% FT 5.2% BME by $0.80 123 4.5% StockXpert 4.1% PANTH 3.3% BME 10% of portfolio BigStock 3.1% FP 1.5% BME again - every month grows ZYMM 0.8% (20% of port) MOST, SNAP, SCAN, CAN & CRE about 0.5-0.7% each Phil
1413
« on: May 21, 2008, 19:02 »
to me, and it may well be very different for those whose images are more 'stock oriented', they are different markets those that do well in micro do little in macro. most of my best selling macro shots are poor images in micro, quite a number of them rejected for varying reasons including 'not being stock' Phil
1414
« on: May 13, 2008, 16:25 »
.36 cents is disappointing but when viewed as 20% it looks better  but then the US dollar has dropped, and inflation gone up. I think the amount per download is probably about the same as 12 months ago. I dont see much follow on to other sites for subs increases.
1415
« on: May 13, 2008, 16:09 »
ok. 2 tokens left
1416
« on: May 13, 2008, 05:26 »
sales trickle along for me. a couple of weeks ago I noticed one of my images in the last sales, went bback about 14 hours later and it had moved from last downloaded to 3rd last downloaded. I thought wow sales are really slow! then discovered it had sold twice  everytime I go to the site it seems to be one of dolgachovs images in the last sales he would be the one to ask
1417
« on: May 12, 2008, 20:02 »
the site is running very bad. I try opening it and often fails so I try 30 minutes later, sometimes takinbg 3-4 attempts doing this. to convert to tokens you need to email support and ask them
Phil
1418
« on: May 12, 2008, 18:24 »
1 & 2 are good. 3 I like but my skills needs more work. 4 I hate 5 no problem 6 I hate categories
1419
« on: May 12, 2008, 18:21 »
ok just had $7.20 in sales  still wouldn't have put over the $25 with the $6.90 from before so I have asked for it to be converted again. so when it comes through I am guessing 7 tokens I'll fix up suzym but it will leave me a couple of tokens left if anyone needs them Phil
1420
« on: May 11, 2008, 19:30 »
my last sixty cents spent on suzym so now she should be 23.70
1421
« on: May 11, 2008, 02:05 »
hi, you have to hit the contact us and email them for it to happen. Rgds Phil
1422
« on: May 10, 2008, 16:15 »
I need 70 cents for a payout. If anyone wants to buy my photo, I would appreciate it 
Link to my portfolio http://www.luckyoliver.com/portfolio/Elnur
cant get in at the moment but I will get there though  that will leave me 2 tokens ($0.60) if that helps anyone. (couldnt find contact details for suzym)
1423
« on: May 10, 2008, 16:12 »
I thought they has disappeared already, have not been able to log on at all for well over a week.
site seems to up and down all over the place.
1424
« on: May 09, 2008, 22:18 »
to me, these sites (can / cre / fp / alb / lo / zymm / scan / snap / most / etc etc) are in the range of each earning .5%-1.5% of total sales for most people. so together roughly 5-10% of sales. to me the question that someone has to ask is, is your sales worth gaining an extra 5-10%. for someone earning $100 a month this is about $5-$10 across half a dozen sites so payouts aren't going to happen and you're wasting time but if you're earning say $5000 a month then they earn $250-$500 and you will get regular small payouts. I'm not at $5000 a month, but they are all pretty good for uploading time, I can use works bandwidth so can upload 25 images to 10 sites in 10-20 minutes. I dont get rejections for overabundant category etc, hopefully they will grow  . I have had payouts from lo, cre, can, alb, I get $50 from featurepics about every 6-7 weeks so compared to istock it's not much, but I appreciate every $50 I get  I have sales at most and zymm which dont have all my portfolio yet and these are sites I hope will grow. I think midstock will replace much of whats left of traditional stock and these could be well positioned to do so. of course like we see with lo if you dont do marketing, chances are you are going to be around long term. of course some people say only istock is worth uploading to, we all have different views  Phil
1425
« on: May 09, 2008, 17:46 »
Hi, will do tonight Jeff
anyone else? I have 5 tokens left
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