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« on: June 07, 2017, 10:31 »
Let's say I wanna hear a brutally honest opinion on something, which is what your book offers according to the title, but when I open the book, I see a content that sounds very vanilla. A uni textbook. And I was expecting opinions that tell me how it is. Here's my revised table of Contents: Chapter 1 - Why you should move to Thailand Chapter 2 - What's in my camera bag before the gypsies stole it? Chapter 3 - Technicals - what's the point, they're going to reject you anyway Chapter 4 - How not to get * sued Chapter 5 - RM or RF, why doesn't it matter when you're still getting paid crap Chapter 6 - Overview of Agencies (most of these won't be around in a year) Chapter 7 - How much can you expect to earn (less than working at McDonald's) Chapter 8 - Don't fking shoot flowers, pets and flags Chapter 9 - Finding Nietzsche Chapter 10 - Keywording or as some people call it "Copy-Pasting" Chapter 11 - Hiring cheap labour in India for cheap Chapter 12 - The Agencies are the devil and their customers don't care about you Interview with Playboy bunny of the year 2017
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« on: June 07, 2017, 10:06 »
Brasilnut, when you write you sound like a very nice guy. Brutally honest people aren't. haha, let's just say that in the book i'm very angry at most of the agencies for the way they treat most contributors! And there's parts that I make it clear that most newbies "won't make it and not to even bother".
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« on: June 07, 2017, 00:49 »
simephoto with solo mango as little sister, they have base mostly of travel photography. personally i think harding is another agency with not a bright future, once i wanted to upload there but i prefer collaborate with more documentary agency. all this photo for me are good enough for rm in alamy, and am pretty sure you would sell more there that with rh, considering that rh also sell a lot in alamy, and if they sell there you got 25 % I pitched to Simephoto but in the end settled for RH, on an image-exclusive basis. I want to avoid signing up to different exclusive agencies that specialise in the same niche as that's just asking for trouble (and picking favourites), not to mention the legal issues of potentially submitting the same/similar images to both. I like RH since the editor there (Fraser Hall) is easily approachable and gives good feedback - there's also a community feel as it's a small agency. I hope they're successful. Alamy do get a fair share of my leftover RM images and some RF editorial, then SS get the rest as RF to license for peanuts which does add up. This is a long-term strategy I'm willing to be patient for positive results...I don't have all the answers but there's a method behind the madness which I devote many many pages to outlying in the book. The only reason why I chose the 4th image was because a similar image from a better angle went viral 6 weeks ago at an English Defense League rally in Birmingham - credit Joe Gibbens / PA (attached). I do enjoy editorials and can see myself going full steam ahead with it and perhaps one of my images may go viral (I came close that time so it just means that I was in the wrong place at the right time). I've recently signed up to Rex Features. You probably have the most critical audience you will find here not many of whom are likely to be your target market. This is great! I don't waste my time (anymore) posting on 500px and flicker so I get a bunch of useless praise and likes - also don't want the risk of my images being stolen. The people posting/reading on here produce top quality work and I rather receive brutally honest feedback - it doesn't hurt my ego  . Sounds like a good concept, good title, I think many people would buy and read it if you can get the word out. I believe so and hope it may help a lot of people who are just starting out. It may even "dissuade" some who may think it's an easy ride from even bothering to invest their money and time. I don't enjoy tooting my horn too much but it's all part of the marketing game to get the word out on what I think is a quality product but I'll let the readers be the real judges.
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« on: June 06, 2017, 15:33 »
Do you sell anything there? Better than Shutterstock? I'm still building my portfolio there with just over 100 images so it's early days. They are extremely picky on what they choose. Commission is 35% and commercial licenses go for a minimum of EUR290. Editorials minimum EUR70. Brutally. I dont see a big diff between your premium or your stock...in my opinion premium should be something uncommon, superb, you cant find in rf,unique lighting or subject. Really what shot in premium agency you have can have any of this quality? It's good you guys have such high standards as it helps me to push for better and better. I agree on your definition of "premium". I used the term loosely earlier and admit that I have only a few that I consider to fall under this stringent standard, although always striving to create more. I'll paste them here (are they premium, yes or no?).
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« on: June 06, 2017, 14:28 »
Brutally honest? Ok...
Your shutterstock portfolio is 95% walk-around, point-and-shoot, editorial shots. No working with models. No studio table top. (strobes?) No concepts. Pretty much vacation snaps of cities. And some architectural interiors with verticals off. (?)
Kinda a narrow (and easy) niche.
This makes me question your knowledge and experience that would qualify you to write a guide to Microstock photography.
But anyone who helps dissuade more competition in this industry is fine with me.  I appreciate your brutally honest feedback. I stick to travel & news editorial as my main niches - I can't possibly cover all niches within Microstock or claim to be proficient at still life, for example. We were tired of living in a world that revolved around fixing our weaknesses. Societys relentless focus on peoples shortcomings had turned into a global obsession. Whats more, we had discovered that people have several times more potential for growth when they invest energy in developing their strengths instead of correcting their deficiencies. - Strengths Finder 2.0 by Tom Rath On a side note, I've stopped submitting my premium images to SS about a year ago, they now go to Midstock agencies as RM where they should be. So you're probably only seeing my leftover work there at SS earning me those 33cents here and there but I did get a $14 extended license download today. For a better idea of my premium work I recommend to check out my Robert Harding collection - https://www.robertharding.com/photographers/alexandrerotenberg/. Anyway, it's all explained in the book, hope you will check it out soon
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« on: June 06, 2017, 13:48 »
I have a lot of editorials of london police so these are doing well, security must be the theme of the week/month/year
1432
« on: June 05, 2017, 08:19 »
I agree with you in that success/failure is just a silhouette. If it looks like a duck, it could still be a pair of hands and a table lamp .
Perhaps it's a matter of presentation. Instead of getting-out-of-stock pessimistic conclusion, put it as a first chapter. Entitle it something like "If it were easy, everyone would do it". Well, English is not my first language, I am not good with catchy slogans, I am sure you can come up with something better.
Or use another angle. Say, first steps in industry, learning it while getting stuff sold. Thanks for your suggestion. I wanted to be shocking, but you're right that it may also put people off. English isn't my first language either, that's why I'm a Brasilnut
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« on: June 05, 2017, 07:26 »
I understand, but why anyone would pay money for a recipe for inaction? I don't have to pay to learn to do nothing. I can do nothing all by myself, without a guru's advice. If I make an effort it is because I want something good out of it.
If you did not succeed in this particular venue, that's fine, it's life, but do you think trying to sell a book on "how to fail to be an actor, scientist, plumber, international spy etc" will work? Do you see many of those around? Perhaps people would like to read about a unique expertise rather than trying to start something they cannot finish because they only learn that they will fail? You make some valid points. I've certainly approached drafting this guide in a rather unconventional way, but in a thought-provoking and accurate manner, nevertheless. So much so that we're having an interesting discussion on what it means to "fail" or "succeed". If the aim is to be "brutally honest", I cannot sugarcoat, how easy it would be to make money from Microstock to try to get more book-sales, because everybody here knows how tough this industry is - it would be a "brutally dishonest guide" and i'm sure there's many of those out there. I don't know whether i'm "failing" or "succeeding" at this game but all I know is that I quite enjoy it and would like to pass on my knowledge to others. I'm by no means a guru, just a travel photojournalist. In any case, I don't believe in "failure", as in life we must learn from our mistakes and try to improve with every minute. It's more like feedback than anything. To receive these feedback to improve, we must try try try try and try - the opposite of inaction. Oh and try some more. I don't want to give too much away as I'm hoping enough people will want to read it but here's the opening paragraph from Chapter 12 "Getting . Out of Microstock": It may seem strange in a comprehensive guide to how to be successful at Microstock to end with a chapter on how to get . out of it, but please hear me out! This chapter is aimed at both those more experienced contributors and those just starting out, since both will face similar dilemmas, as I will outline in this chapter.I started in Microstock because my perception at the time was that it was the most practical and low-cost way to monetise my images. During the past four years, I have painstakingly put in the time and effort to keep learning how to make my images stand out from the herd. My experience of submitting to various Agencies has given me an education in the technical and commercial/editorial aspects of photography simply by participating in those markets....
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« on: June 05, 2017, 05:58 »
I should whip one up... "The Brutally Honest Guide to Space-Related Microstock Motion Graphics". Let's collaborate
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« on: June 05, 2017, 02:43 »
The last chapter of the guide does not inspire to pay 10 bucks for it. This is not a get-rich-quick guide and even the thought of making Microstock sound like an appealing business model (for the vast majority of contributors), makes me want to puke. So, this chapter is basically an exercise in 'thinking outside of the (Microstock) box' to brainstorm sustainable alternatives (perhaps knitting  ) using the skills gained by participating in the Microstock market. May I ask what year you started doing micro? I started in 2009 but quickly lost interest and only seriously since 2012. My early work was crap, though.
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« on: June 04, 2017, 12:13 »
Hey all, As some of you may already be aware, since November last year, I've been painstakingly drafting a comprehensive guide to Microstock. It's taken a hell of a lot of work and I've settled on close to a whopping 200 pages, with just as many example images, to reflect the complexity of the business. Here's the table of contents: Chapter 1 Microstock Photography 101 Chapter 2 - What's in my Camera Bag? Chapter 3 Achieving Technical Excellence Chapter 4 - The Legal Side of Stock Photography Chapter 5 - Licensing Editorial & Commercial Images Chapter 6 - Overview on Agencies to License Images Chapter 7 - How Much Can You Expect to Earn (The Extra Mile Isnt Crowded)? Chapter 8 - Creating Interesting Images Chapter 9 - Finding your Niche Chapter 10 - Keywording Chapter 11 Workflow Optimisation Chapter 12 - Getting the H*ll Out of Microstock! Interview with Joas Souza, London-based Architectural photographer But it's not about quantity, it's about quality. I'm really sticking my neck out on this one and telling it how it is (the good, the bad and the ugly). To get this ball going, once published soon, I'm going to GIVING AWAY THE GUIDE to 5 people. All you have to do is go to my word press blog (link is at my signature) and underneath its latest post (with the same title), put down your email address. Thereafter, all I ASK is that you give me your brutally honest opinion of the book, either here or on the blog! I won't feel offended if you hate it (which you won't). Not to worry if you're too late, once published, it will be for sale for $5.00 for a limited time only, thereafter $10.00. Happy shooting! Alex https://brutallyhonestmicrostock.wordpress.com/2017/06/04/new-guide-for-beginners-brutally-honest-guide-to-microstock-photography/
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« on: June 01, 2017, 15:00 »
well the most sad thing is that the copy is just !"alamy" not even your name...considering is rm and alamy i expected at least this. Not bothered to be honest. Just happy it was more than $5 but still it's low...hopefully there will be repeat licenses after this one expires.
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« on: May 31, 2017, 12:56 »
Finally got paid for it and were two RM licenses for $20 and $7 respectively.
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« on: May 29, 2017, 09:26 »
those who make money todays have 100000 images.
I'm only 4% there...
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« on: May 28, 2017, 14:36 »
Thanks. I've got reservations about sending exclusive images (and no similars elsewhere) to an agency unless it is selling like hot-cakes. I see their stuff on Alamy, I don't know where else they supply. If it's just a back door to Alamy then you're just giving a cut of your commissions to a third party. The industry's *removed coarse language* due to downward pressures on prices as a result of an oversupply of images, and disruption from Microstock. Midstock agencies are also struggling to keep their prices attractive. There's no "perfect" agencies, just have to make friends with the devil sometimes and hope for the best. I haven't seen them put my stuff with Alamy but have seen at Getty which can be worrying. As long as these third parties report property, I don't mind...
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« on: May 28, 2017, 05:04 »
Do you get many sales? I keep seeing their name pop up with travel images similar to mine. None so far, although i've only been submitting regularly to them for about 4 months. I'm working towards getting 1,000 images on there, which will take about a year, and then i'll reassess. Another interesting travel agency is 4corners. I've attached a list I put together a few months ago that I trust you'll find interesting. I've got a comprehensive guide on microstock coming out soon...
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« on: May 28, 2017, 03:13 »
Sundays tend to be slow
1443
« on: May 27, 2017, 17:17 »
after 1 month I've had... mixed results. We apparently live in an age of instant gratification...
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« on: May 27, 2017, 14:09 »
I submit all my best images to Robert Harding, a specialist niche travel photography agency, but they reject like 80% of my images... SS are a sure bet but it's tough getting over the 25cents, which is insulting, but as others have pointed out it's better than getting lost in Alamy for years hoping for a big sale.
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« on: May 27, 2017, 08:09 »
Is it best to only upload those images to Alamy or also on microstock? I don't find it OK to get 25 cents for such images. However, I uploaded one such image one year ago as RM to Alamy and it has not been bought. I don't want to get just 25 cents for such an image but no sale is also not great. I really don't know what to do. Depending on the image it's OK to upload to both as RF. If it's a premium image better to only upload to Alamy. If it's a run of the mill generic image only to SS. Without more information it's impossible to advise.
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« on: May 16, 2017, 15:15 »
its a no-go from the very beginning, image spamming from poor images all over, the best thing is to try favorite keywords and see the result, one trial and you will never try it again. I used to work with online poker and it reminds me of sites who were way behind the curve try to compete with the big boys at the time (Party or Pokerstars) but they didn't have that many tables going and no incentives for new guys to join. One way Lifeographies could potentially get more contributors is to start offering minimum 70% commissions to new contributors then I'd probably give it a try, even exclusively.
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« on: May 16, 2017, 05:32 »
This would be great, if you got on a time machine back to 2001..seems too difficult to compete now without having a clear niche and offering contributors something special!
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« on: May 15, 2017, 10:01 »
Too many * sub downloads
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« on: May 12, 2017, 07:21 »
So much for "breaking news".
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« on: May 09, 2017, 13:45 »
Thank you. I love your Fine Art photos. I can only dream of seeing those places. They are beautifully executed and I'm sure you have some on arcangel too  Thanks, I love travelling but I realise it's not the easiest of genres to make money! Arcangel isn't treating me well, unfortunately, I'm close to giving up on them as already have 500 images and no sales after 18 months...
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