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iStockPhoto.com / Re: Grass is NOT greener at the others!!
« on: January 04, 2011, 06:11 »

I know!   still though, dangerous misconceptions between the British/American  English language, isnt it? there are plenty more examples.

and Australian/British/Amercan    
take thong for example which in Australia is a type of footware
I once poured tea (from a teapot, leaves and all, but it was tepid, you'll be glad to know) over an American (in a youth hostel in Luxembourg, when I was a student) who, upon meeting me, said, "Oh, you're Scottish, are you cheap?"
In the UK, calling a woman 'cheap' means she "bestows her sexual 'favours' indiscriminately" (those were gentler days, dear reader).
In the US, apparently it means what Brits call 'mean', which might have got an elbow in the ribs (because as everyone should know - we're not 'mean', we're 'canny'), but not the tea!

In the UK, calling a woman 'homely' means she creates a welcoming home, and probably that she prefers domesticity to business activity; in the US, it seems to mean 'ugly' (or at least what's we'd call 'plain', so that could get Brits into similar trouble in the US.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: iStock Watch 2011
« on: January 04, 2011, 06:02 »
I imagine a lot of photographer who don't check the forums/messages often or at all have no clue about all the changes ...Neither would newbies!
And in fact, as of this minute (10.58 GMT) the "We want you" page that spells out the benefits of exclusivity still claims that your royalty rate changes with canister. In fact, this seems to be the case at this very moment, but of course won't be in the near future, so it's either laziness, forgetfulness (they 'forgot' to change the inducement page), disingenuity(it's technically still true as of now) or deceit(still trying to lure in the innocent with a deal which we all expect to end RSN), depending you how you look at it.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: Interesting site about Getty
« on: January 03, 2011, 20:04 »
Thanks for posting that Sean :)

Looks like good news.  At least on the Getty site, photographers get paid when money is recovered from an infringement.  Hopefully it works the same at Istock?
Presumably Stacey knows, since she didn't originally get her EL for her Time magazine cover photo.

14454
General Stock Discussion / Re: December 2010 earnings thread
« on: January 03, 2011, 08:19 »
Exclusive at Istock.December was my 2nd worst month of the year.However the money earned for  2010 was 4000+ which is kinda cool for a hobby IMO.
Indeed, Shankie, you're still My Hero. But I saw you posted on the 'loser' forum over there that you're still quite a way from making Gold RCs, which just shows how ridiculously high the bar is.

14455
iStockPhoto.com / Re: Interesting site about Getty
« on: January 02, 2011, 20:27 »
thanks Jonathan. I know a lot of modelling agencies won't work with stock photographers at all. but obviously there are a lot of great models that don't have a problem working in stock images. hopefully these types of issues are few and far between. other than these two examples, I've actually never heard of it--first-hand--happening to a colleague. the example I always use is the Friends episode where Joey models for a poster company and his likeness is used on posters for venereal disease.
From iStock, there was the one of the family being used in a British National Party (fascist/racist political party) flyer, a girl being used in posters for a more moderate Northern Irish political party - cleverly and amusingly, a rival party used the same image on their posters, with a slogan saying something like, "I changed my mind!" (both against the ASA), the old man outside the shed, and the woman in a restaurant used to illustrate an article on call girls, very unfortunately published in the city where the woman, an educator, lives, but not with a comment like 'posed by a model', which is required. (Content License Agreement 4.7(b).

14456
iStockPhoto.com / Re: moving away from istock.
« on: January 02, 2011, 20:20 »
FWIW - this supposedly applies to similars. I asked contributor relations and received an email stating that I could not upload sames or similars of any of my iStock images as RM anywhere.
I had mention of this too, but there's nothing in the current exclusive ASA about it.

14457
iStockPhoto.com / Re: moving away from istock.
« on: January 02, 2011, 20:01 »
And be aware, as also mentioned, that as an exclusive, you're not permitted to sell rejected content elsewhere, even as RM, without permission.

As far as I know, you are !

Not according to iStock support.  I've asked.

I remember this having been discusse din the past, and Gannet77 would be right (unless something had changed). It sounds silly, but that was IS' rule.
Exclusive ASA 7.2
"You further agree that any Exclusive Content that is not accepted by iStockphoto and does not form Accepted Exclusive Content cannot be sold, licensed or otherwise made available to purchasers, licensees or other potential users without the prior written consent of iStockphoto. iStockphoto reserves the right to sell non-accepted Exclusive Content through another site or distribution venue determined by it, the compensation for which will be subject to a new rate schedule agreed between the parties. "
IIRC, JJRD said a few months ago that they were going to review this clause, but either they have not done so, or they reviewed it and decided to retain it.
That said, I've always had permission when I've asked. In fact, the last time, the IS support person suggested I should try all my content RM first, then uploading any RM rejections to iStock (!) as that would be easier all round. Very surprising answer, I thought.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: istock sale
« on: January 02, 2011, 16:25 »
Just that the payout structure is too convoluted to be sure of anything. 
And that's no doubt just the way they like it.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: Interesting site about Getty
« on: January 02, 2011, 14:59 »
This is from the iStock ASA:
10.3
"The Supplier agrees that  iStockphoto shall have the right to determine whether and to what extent to proceed against a licensee or other third party (an "Infringer") for any violation of the Content License Agreement, or other license agreement or alleged infringement of other rights of the Supplier. The Supplier hereby releases iStockphoto from any and all claims the Supplier might have, either directly or indirectly, arising out of or in connection with a determination by iStockphoto to proceed or not to proceed against any Infringer in any instance. iStockphoto hereby agrees that any monetary recovery it receives as a result of any legal or enforcement action taken against any such Infringer, to the extent such monies are intended to compensate iStockphoto for lost licensing fees or statutory damages, shall, after deduction of all costs and expenses incurred in gaining such recovery (including, without limitation, reasonable counsel and experts' fees and disbursements on a solicitor and client basis) incurred by or on behalf of iStockphoto in connection with such action, be divided between the Supplier and iStockphoto pursuant to the provisions of the Compensation section above. In the event iStockphoto elects not to proceed against an Infringer, the Supplier shall have the right to proceed against such Infringer for such license violation or infringing action. The Supplier hereby agrees that any monetary recovery it receives as a result of any legal action taken against any such Infringer, to the extent such monies are intended to compensate the Supplier for lost licensing fees or include statutory damages, shall, after deduction of all costs and expenses incurred in gaining such recovery (including, without limitation, reasonable counsel and experts' fees and disbursements on a solicitor and client basis), be divided between the Supplier and iStockphoto pursuant to the provisions of the Compensation section above. "

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: Interesting site about Getty
« on: January 02, 2011, 14:53 »
Hi SNP, 

 Yes, I love the Onion but the character of this family was not in the same mind. It was just after the Lewinsky/Clinton ordeal and they made her out to be another Lewinsky ( in graphic detail ) with a government official, just about the worst topic for such a devout christian family.

The Onion did it again with an iStock photo of a very young girl, making her out to be the object of sexual fantasy of a male teacher, (also a stock photo, but not iStock). The photographer complained and iStock issued a cease and desist, and The Onion took it down. No further action was taken by iStock, and of course, the damage was already done.

@Stacey The thing is, not everyone knows about The Onion. I'd never heard of it until someone gave me a link to an excellent article there just after 9/11. After that I looked a few times but found subsequent articles to be very puerile, and paid no attention to it until I read about the iStock issue on the forums there.
It is interesting, and disturbing, that the stock agencies won't, in general, take action against abuse of images, i.e. contrary to their t&c. So basically an end user has nothing to lose by breaking the t&c and can just hope they won't get caught.

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Just noticed on the 'losers' thread on iStock Sean posted an extract from the ASA, which said, inter alia:
"The parties acknowledge that the Rate Schedule is subject to change in the sole discretion of iStockphoto in the ordinary course of its business without notice by posting such changes on the Site."
That last bit is totally ambiguous like so much more on the ASA. It is unpunctuated, (what fun, like a school English exercise :D) therefore there's no way of knowihg whether it is meant to be:
"The parties acknowledge that the Rate Schedule is subject to change in the sole discretion of iStockphoto in the ordinary course of its business comma without notice by posting such changes on the Site."
or
"The parties acknowledge that the Rate Schedule is subject to change in the sole discretion of iStockphoto in the ordinary course of its business without notice comma by posting such changes on the Site."

In fact, although these have totally opposite different meanings, the net result of either to the suppliers is the same. But it just shows how wide the holes they've made on their side of the ASA is, while making our side rigid and watertight.
(And strangely [not], whenever I've questioned an ambiguous clause, it's always interpreted to be in their favour)

14462
From 112 votes so far, just 37.5% will be carrying on as usual. It seems that a fair few will be making a stand or have already done so.

I don't see how leaving will make a difference in how anyone is treated in this business. Supply and demand rules here as in any other non-government enterprise. So "making a stand" is akin to the local shoe store owner reducing his hours of operation when Walmart opens up down the street.
The only people would be the really big hitters who are independent. If they pulled their images and uploaded elsewhere, iStock would feel it.
For the rest of us, while there might be some satisfaction, it won't matter to iStock one iota.
Added: I'm not sure what would happen to iStock if Yuri pulled his port totally. Interesting to speculate.

14463
General Stock Discussion / Re: Microstock 2010 Industry Survey
« on: January 01, 2011, 08:38 »
Hi Leaf,
This question is odd since you can only answer yes or no:
Do you have any employees or do you work as a team?
Kind regards,
laflor
Although it looks like two separate questions, I assumed it was just to differentiate between people working solely on their own, and 'any other model'.

14464
Regarding the vetta, with the price incease you should be making more or the same, no ?
Maybe overall, but it depends whether buyers will bite the price increase. Anecdotally, I've only sold one Vetta during the 'Sale' period, but was getting over one a week before (only 12 Vettas).

14465
General Stock Discussion / Re: How was your 2010?
« on: January 01, 2011, 07:08 »
On iStock up from 2009, and even from 2008, which was much better than 2009. But the increase over previous years was in the beginning of the year. The year end, previously my best time, was relatively disappointing. Also my pics uploaded in the past 18 months are being virtually ignored, so I've very much slowed down on uploading there.
Focussing on building my Alamy portfolio, on a long-term 'wait and see'.

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General Stock Discussion / Re: December 2010 earnings thread
« on: January 01, 2011, 06:26 »
On iStock (exclusive) - grim.
$$$ Down 23% compared to December 2009, and down 45% compared to Dec. '08.
Downloads less than half of Dec 2009. (down from 289 in 2007 to 121 this year)
Third worst month of the year, when previously it's been 3rd or 4th top.
On the positive side, I didn't get any of these fraudulent downloads to be sorted out.
And for the first time, my month at Alamy, if cleared (4 sales), is better than my month at iStock, though I understand that my big sale is very unusual these days, so can't hope for many more of these.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: Grass is NOT greener at the others!!
« on: January 01, 2011, 06:14 »
.  Hopefully they will be sold and the new owners will have a better long term strategy. 
Or even a long-term strategy full stop. At the moment, they seem to pick on one employee a week and give them ten seconds to think of what we can do next week, and that includes the office junior, the tea lady and the masseuse. Then the programmers get half an hour to roll it out.

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Canon / Re: Canon 5DMkII = less microstock acceptance?
« on: December 31, 2010, 10:43 »
It's strictly coincidence. I'm getting more rejections since I started using a new espresso maker.
But seriously.... most of the rejections have been because of OOF or focus not on best area.    I think that the combination of the shallower dof associated with a FF camera combined with hand held shots in a darker winter environment .... a AF system that is not as good as the 7D has led to my rejections.
Strange: the advantage for me personally is the the 5D2 is far better in lower light conditions with higher ISO. Do you have IS lenses? Is it out of focus or lens shake?
May be a problem with the camera or lens?
What sort of subject are you shooting? Unless fast moving, e.g. flying birds or sport, the AF difference shouldn't be obvious. (I was recommended the 7D for actions shots, and was thinking about replacing my 40D with one, until I read that the noise at 400 is pretty grim.)

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Seeing as how they cannot have a solid grasp on peoples' numbers for at least 3 days ( the usual RC calculations ), plus the fraud RC removal, plus the Vetta and audio RC additions ...
I think they'll hit it anyway, and say they'll adjust later, knowing it's almost impossible for us to know what's really due to us.
If I'm wrong, it's the first nod to consumer sensibilities we'll have had in months, though it will only affect the people 'on the cusp'.

14470
As the istock commission cuts are happening 1st January 2011

I will bet you a dollar that they won't be happening tomorrow.  I would say the 17th at the earliest.
It would cost me too much to send you the dollar, but I'll be surprised if they haven't had the Big Red Button ready to press since early September, and it will be pressed at midnight Calgary time. Maybe Kelly will come into the office specially to hit it.
But I could be wrong, of course.

14471
I'll be sticking on 30%, but as I'm within 400 dls of turning gold, it will soon be falling from what I should have expected.

14472
It ain't a cut for everyone...
Well, I guess an exclusive who keeps the same level and has no Vetta, Agency or extended licences won't get a cut.
And maybe a few Black Diamonds have reached the 45% level (but will still have the above cuts, so who knows where the balance will be, even for them)

14473
I'm already uploading much less, especially since my old files are vastly outselling my newer ones - even the ones which wouldn't pass inspection nowadays - go figure! On current showings, that won't change. I happened to catch a new file last month which had sunk to position 83 in a best match search less than 24 hours after appearing in my portfolio - and now people are reporting files not even getting into their ports.
Ethan and Duck will get a well-deserved rest when my canister turns gold but my royalties don't, as I'll almost stop wiki-ing, suggesting bulk wikis and bombarding their in-trays!
I'm guessing people won't help others so much on the forums, as everyone is now directly a rival, not just for sales but for percentage rates, as only a certain percentage will reach each level. Previously helping someone in a different genre had no adverse effect on your own progress; now it does.
But it's not just the cash grab: they just seem to be totally incompetent at everything they do. They don't seem to have any plan, far less a long-term one.  They've heard of buyers, but want no truck with them.
My year started OK: dls down, $$$ up, but my end of year is bad: this month will be over 20% down on last Dec and much more compared to Dec 08 for $$.
I'll be keeping a watching brief on editorial, but to be honest, I can't imagine any local situations selling in numbers which would make micro prices worth it. Different for contributers in big cities, probably.
In Pollyanna mode, things can only get better, but realistically ... ???
So ... continuing to focus, optimistically, on RM/editorial at Alamy. May start looking at other RM agencies with a more local/specialist focus.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: Istock F5 epic fail
« on: December 30, 2010, 13:05 »
Look at the buyer mentioned earlier in this thread waiting 3 hours to download the images they needed. There are plenty of other places to buy images, many cheaper and just as good quality as istock's offerings. And yet buyers will still suffer through the problems and keep buying from istock after each and every misstep.
That buyer had already had the images in a lightbox approved by a client, so it wouldn't have been easy to start again looking for images and getting them approved. Maybe there was a deadline. But we don't know that s/he will be a loyal buyer when their image bundle needs renewed.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: Istock F5 epic fail
« on: December 30, 2010, 11:27 »
What we are experiencing at iStock is incompetence and gross mismanagement. As CEO of a technology company, the Board would fire my as* in a heart beat if I ran the business and produced a website with the magnitude of problems and lack of testing and Q/C we are experiencing. On top of all the issues they close the shop and take a vacation. This is either total incompetence or just plain arrogance. I don't see a long term future with iStock.


This is one of the things that frustrates me the most.  Before going into the programming end of development, I spent a few years in QA as a tester and then managing the QA function.  I see some of the stuff that gets rolled out here where basically it's the buyers and contributors testing it, and so obviously broken, that I'm just mind-boggled that it got put into production in that shape.  It bugs me when people say "well those things will happen in all companies" -- not to this extent and repetition, and not without heads rolling.  I'd have been let go in a heartbeat. 

Oh, who knows, he might be on a big golden goodbye deal like Fred the Shred. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Goodwin
The salient points are:
"Sir Frederick Anderson Goodwin CA, FCIBS, (born 17 August 1958) is a chartered accountant who was formerly chief executive of the Royal Bank of Scotland Group (RBS).
From 2000 until 2008 he presided over RBS's rapid rise to global prominence as the world's largest company (by assets - 1.9 trillion),and fifth-largest bank by stock market value and its even more rapid fall as RBS was forced into effective nationalisation in 2008.
On October 11, 2008, Goodwin officially announced his resignation as Chief Executive and an early retirement, effective from January 31, 2009 - a month before RBS announced that its 2008 loss totalled 24.1bn, the largest annual loss in UK corporate history. Following the February 2009 disclosure of his approximately 700,000 per year pension award from RBS he was the subject of widespread public, political and media criticism."

and
"...Around this time he gained the moniker "Fred the Shred" from City financiers, reflecting a reputation for ruthlessly generating cost savings and efficiencies"
Basically Fred's in clover and doesn't GAF about the detritus (ordinary bank employees) left in his wake.

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