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VideoBlocks / Re: Storyblocks closing the Marketplace section
« on: August 08, 2019, 04:32 »
so, as I see i have active marketplace, enterprise and third party platforms channels.

what this means for us who don't want to participate to partner program?

do we need to remove all videos? will storyblock to that for us?

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123RF / Re: Do you make $100/month at 123RF?
« on: July 27, 2019, 12:06 »
it was my third site, now I am thinking to abandon them

153
Shutterstock.com / Re: Worst month on shutterstock
« on: July 01, 2019, 02:55 »
worst month in last 2 and a half year.

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I thought the same and I stopped providing new stuff but since they were bought by inmagine it seems like they are pushing hard in the marketing side. But for contributors is just crap. And their uploading process was horrible for me. Best so far is depositphotos even if they don't sell much neither

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wasn't 123rf who bought inmagine?

and if I remember, it was few years ago

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Funny how they are hiring people in every country to promote more marketing (just received an email about new staff in Colombia) but their site is falling apart

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stopped uploading even they have easiest upload process.

They just fall of the cliff so fast for me that's unbelievable. In 2 months 70%

and even I need to remind them every time to do their only job, review my images.

They will probable be closed by this time next year.

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They promised us much more sales, my earnings and sales after commission cut went down by 60-70%

Consider to close my account there very soon.

How about you?

157
iStockPhoto.com / Getty payment
« on: April 24, 2019, 03:07 »
I know it's not 25 yet, but did everyone received it?

I usually get it before 25, Easter made it slower this month?

158
123RF / Re: Missing files after approval
« on: April 10, 2019, 04:12 »
123rf is going down so fast it's sad

sales are down, bugs appears, we need to tell them to review our content...


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Adobe Stock / Re: Adobe Terms
« on: April 05, 2019, 01:18 »
Copy paste from another topic:

OK, after I slept this over, after long conversation with IRS yesterday I would like to share my experience and knowledge to everyone concerned about AdobeStock, 1042s forms and taxes, and there are people who asked me about that so I would like to say it public for everyone who wants to know. I am talking only about withheld tax when adobe was US-based company for non us contributors, nothing else.

I need to be fair to AdobeStock, as I already wrote on this topic before, they are becoming friendly stock company and getting better earner at least for me. After I wrote my concern about getting paid from Adobe Canada, and not getting 1042s form from them, just signed letters, even that's contrary from what is stated on irs.gov official site, we can use that letter along with other sites 1042s form for tax return, and as long as we are getting adobestock withheld tax returned there is nothing to worry about.

That's it from me about this theme.

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OK, after I slept this over, after long conversation with IRS yesterday I would like to share my experience and knowledge to everyone concerned about AdobeStock, 1042s forms and taxes, and there are people who asked me about that so I would like to say it public for everyone who wants to know. I am talking only about withheld tax when adobe was US-based company for non us contributors, nothing else.

I need to be fair to AdobeStock, as I already wrote on this topic before, they are becoming friendly stock company and getting better earner at least for me. After I wrote my concern about getting paid from Adobe Canada, and not getting 1042s form from them, just signed letters, even that's contrary from what is stated on irs.gov official site, we can use that letter along with other sites 1042s form for tax return, and as long as we are getting adobestock withheld tax returned there is nothing to worry about.

That's it from me about this theme.

161
I have called IRS about this, and have no further comment about it.


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If you go on your contributor account in the tax information section and click on update, it states that we are dealing with a US company.


"Selling creative content licenses is an economic activity and, as an Adobe Stock contributor, income derived from these sales in the US may be subject to U.S. IRS (Internal Revenue Service) withholding tax. Due to the importance of the obligations and the specificities of your situation, we recommend you read the following information very carefully.

The IRS is the U.S. government agency responsible for tax collection and tax law compliance. As a U.S. company, we - and our contributors - must comply with U.S. tax law and provide the IRS with the appropriate withholding tax form. Such tax forms are specific according to the contributors situation and are necessary to determine if U.S. withholding tax should be applied on your income.

Please note - without an approved form, all contributor revenue will be subject to maximum tax withholding.

You will find hereafter information that may help you determine which tax form is applicable to your situation. We encourage you to follow the different steps below and to contact a tax/legal advisor for definitive advice."

so, we must get our 1042-s forms as stated here:

https://www.irs.gov/individuals/international-taxpayers/who-must-file

but noone ever got it

and after we asked them to get it, suddenly all non-us contributors are not part of US based adobe, but Canadian. and it is retroactively.

@UIcomments, if we don't get 1042s forms, how do we know that IRS got our withheld tax? we need to trust someones words?

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Adobe Stock / Re: Adobe Terms
« on: April 04, 2019, 01:48 »


That does not explain it at all.  It sounds like Adobe has a subsidiary that is incorporated in Canada, and all payments to non-US photographers are from the Canadian company.  That means the recipients should all be filling out Canadian tax forms, not US tax forms.

Dany, recipients are not the one who choose what to fill out. On adobestock site, we have w8ben form to fill and 30% of our US based  earning taken away or "withheld". Canadian companies dont have legitimate right to act as US withholding agent.

If AS take 30% of US based earning (and they do), demand w8 forms (and they do), they are not canadian but us based company, and in that case they MUST provide 1042s forms as not only tax return, but as evidence that IRS have even "seen" that money. Understand now?

In this case, after June 2018, all non us based contributors, have to get all money that was "withheld" back to their account balance.


164
Very strange that there is 1 vote for "treaty country and receive 1042s froms each year" since I've never heard of anybody outside of the US receive it from FT/AS. I wonder if the voter was confused about the terms...

Probably. It's internet forum, anyone can put anything.

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Why would we get US 1042s forms from a Canadian company?  Canada have their own tax treaties, which should applicable.

Exactly! Why we should use w8ben form, and even more, why are we getting 30% of our US based income taken away if are dealing with canadian company?


166

But if someone is outside the US, they are dealing with a Canadian company? Wow, some kind of shell game.

we are not. Otherwise I'd be receiving a T5 form which I don't. And I wouldn't need to fill out the stupid W8BEN form which I do. Obviously, regardless of what is written in a matchbox-sized online "agreement", their accounting isn't aware that they are in Canada now. As it usually happens, whatever is written somewhere on internet doesn't matter, we just have to go by a de facto status.

Not sure I understand, you are not what? You mean, you aren't dealing with the Canadian company, you are dealing with the US version, even thought the terms say you are dealing with the Canadian extension. Even more confusing.

I'm wondering what the special agreement with the IRS actually is. Tangled tale, which I can understand why you are looking for answers.

Where do your Paypal payments come from? USA or Canada?

Canada, from very long time.

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I'm totally confused. How is Adobe a San Jose CA company, Canadian? CA stands for California.

But if someone is outside the US, they are dealing with a Canadian company? Wow, some kind of shell game.

yes, please read new adobe terms, there is topic about that here.

Just did, thanks for pointing though. Seems to be two issues going on at the same time and some side contentions. I still can't understand how they can make outside the US deal with Canadian Adobe and inside the US, the US Adobe. There's some legal reason and maybe more than the IRS forms.

Interesting reading.


much more then just IRS forms, but it is a good start or indication that something isn't right here.

and we are talking about ten of thousands of contributors....



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I'm totally confused. How is Adobe a San Jose CA company, Canadian? CA stands for California.

But if someone is outside the US, they are dealing with a Canadian company? Wow, some kind of shell game.

yes, please read new adobe terms, there is topic about that here.

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From June 2018, for you, me and thousand other contributors, Adobe is Canada based company.


That has no bearing on your ability to get back taxes improperly collected in the USA. By Adobe or anyone else.

USA isnt Canada.

To be more specific Canadian based companies dont have legitimate right to act as withholding agent to IRS.


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This has nothing to do with our local (country )taxes or how your accounting income. I dont know if you should receive anything if nothing was withheld.

I am only talking about non-us contributors who are getting their tax withheld. Any percentage.


I am no longer sure what you are talking about but in case you are talking about Adobe overcharging taxes, you can get it back from IRS (USA). All I am saying

From June 2018, for you, me and thousand other contributors, Adobe is Canada based company.

Not getting into more details for now. It's enough.

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Never say never. I am from a tax treaty country, but I don't remember if I ever got a 1042-S from them or not. I didn't receive them in the last years as far as I can remember. My reporting and accounting isn't based on 1042-S forms anyway, and there is no withholding, so it's inconsequential. Technically, if they say that they can provide you with the withholding info and they are overcharging tax, you can get it back by filing a non-resident tax return. It's a pain, but still.

This has nothing to do with our local (country )taxes or how your accounting income. I dont know if you should receive anything if nothing was withheld.

I am only talking about non-us contributors who are getting their tax withheld. Any percentage.

I have to say that I find adobestock one of the
most friendly and to me 3rd best earner with even increasing income. May become 2nd best. Nothing aganist them at all.

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Need to find out more about special deal between IRS and Adobestock


the reason:

Getting payed from Adobe Canada, getting w8ben form provided and 30% tax withheld (non treaty country). never get 1042s form even tho every other us-based company provide it (from google to amazon) and they have to as stated on irs.gov.

Copy paste from their site:

The country where I reside requires Adobe to provide a "1042-S" Foreign Persons U.S. Source Income Subject to Withholding. Can you provide this form?

Because of a special agreement we have with the IRS, we don't issue forms 1042-S separately to each contributor. However, we can provide a signed document that includes earnings and amount of withholding via email on request. Please email us at [email protected]

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Adobe Stock / Re: Adobe Terms
« on: April 03, 2019, 08:22 »
... and in plus, other agency with 30% withholding (in my case) on every sale... that`s even stranger...

We both know what is going on here even we dont want to spell those words.

But as individual we can't do much, we need to get as many non-us contributors as we can...

I can get several of my friends.

It is happening from the day adobe purchase fotolia. Fotolia was german based and all was correct then.

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Adobe Stock / Re: Adobe Terms
« on: April 03, 2019, 08:08 »
.. I know that, thanks... what about some words from Adobe...?!

I am waiting for that for almost 2 years, Adobestock said they have "special deal with IRS" on their official site

no other sites (amazon, google, getty) have that kind of deal. and IRS on their site say that everybody need to file 1042s

people are talking about pond5, because that change was also made as kind of diversion.

This is huge, we are talking about ten of thousands non-us contributors getting paid from Canada, not getting their 1042s forms and millions of dollars "withheld".

I'm still not talked to any media or lawyers about that but that is industry shaking huge, you'll see.


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Adobe Stock / Re: Adobe Terms
« on: April 03, 2019, 06:23 »
9.1. Relationship. If you reside in the United States, your relationship is with Adobe Systems Incorporated, a United States company. If you reside outside of the United States, your relationship is with Adobe Canada Services Corporation, a Canadian company.
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.. now this is interesting... if we got our royalties with deduction, will someone from Adobe explain exact meaning of this...
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I can answer your because answer is pretty straightforward.

Did you ever get 1042-s forms?

No

Now read this (just first 8 words)

https://www.irs.gov/individuals/international-taxpayers/who-must-file

 

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