New: For distribution partner subscription downloads  you will now also receive 0,23 EUR.

What was the old commission? Is it an improvement?

I don't think it works at all.

It's utterly insane to put the burden of the risk on OUR shoulders, by taking a bite out of our profits to cover your expenses and possibly losses for sales that don't follow through.
You come here explaining the situation but you're playing the 'please feel sorry for us, it's a tough business' card while you seem to forget (or rather, neglect) that we have expenses too, and we're taking as much risks as you are.

In the past few years almost every agency in this microstock industry has pulled some kind of trick on us, because apparently it's easy to deceive contributors. You think you can get away with dishonesty, unfairplay and deceit but in reality you're destroying the industry, and our trust.

It's absolutely disgusting to see how businesses like 123RF will stoop so low for a bigger bite of money.

This is going downhill:

October regular sales stats vs:

September ($$): -57%
September (dls): -45%
October 2013 ($$): -25%
October 2013 (dls): -51%

They've cut commissions in the past by introducing a RC-like scheme, claiming they'd double sales. Which never happened. So to that extent, they can't really be trusted.

The revenue is okay, RPD average. They're my 5th agency. 

Well, September was a BMY, but not necessarily due to the changes. And that still doesn't mean much if the other months were bad.

About the same compared to last year, though.

October has been pretty bad in terms of downloads so far, so my initial positive surprise about the changes has now turned back to pessimism.

Well, all negativity and bias aside, I'd like to know some hard facts:

1) Does DPC butcher sales on other sites?
2) Is DPC garnering enough sales to make it worthwile?
3) Will DPC actually destroy the market as we know it with a race to the bottom?

I'm not opted in, but as for question 1: I'm not seeing any decline in sales on other sites since the existence of DPC, and even if there would be a decline, it's hard to tell if it's because of
DPC.
Therefore, I think the answer to question 3 is 'no'.

That leaves question 2 unanswered. Perhaps opted-in contributors could shine some light on this?

Since you hold the copyright to your images, you can sell them wherever you want to if you're not exclusive at some other site. So no, you're not violating any ToS by doing so.

You brought it into the discussion that SS was selling high royalty licenses, I just asked how often you get them.  If you get one a year and your RPD is less than $1 it doesn't seem to mean much but if you are getting 10 or 20 a month then that really says something. 
BTW SS isn't the only place selling $100+ licenses, GI sales just came in and I'm sure I'm not alone in getting them.

I just don't wish to disclose too much information about my stock income. Besides, this was just meant as a funny contrast, not to start an iStock vs. Shutterstock debate.

Quote from: Noedelhap on September 24, 2014, 17:26

Meanwhile, at Shutterstock...

How many sales for that amount do you average per month?

That's private.

Meanwhile, at Shutterstock...

Asthebelltolls, I think you need to read that focus rejection more carefully and understand what it says.

http://www.shutterstock.com/contributor-resources/rejection-reasons/why-images-get-rejected-for-focus

Focus. Your image is not in focus or focus is not located where we feel it works best.

That's not just out of focus.

Back to DP. I have had no rejection problems or issues from them. Maybe because I don't just shoot out whatever crap I took, upload 200 shots, and see what sticks. I think their reviews are more than fair and liberal, open to accepting a broad range of images and concepts.

Commissions: They were caught with a "partner" site selling our images at highly inflated prices and we are getting subs commissions. That's dishonest. At first they denied it, then they said, well everything that partner takes is a sub. Then how long ago they said, we''ll be paying 44% for all DLs.

Really? We don't get 44% now, and while 30c subs is meeting the industry standards, better than some like TS and slightly lower than the mid point on SS, it's being used for outside sales, not subs!

DP has tried to hide and trick us, over and over and when caught, denies or falls back to, we'll change it. So how many times do we need to catch them before people wake up, that DP is trying to play us and make money in shady ways.

In case some people here have lost track of time and promises. DP said in July that they would be repairing the 3% plan and the contributor payout scheme would be changed. (scheme is a good word for it)

Quote from: Noedelhap on August 14, 2014, 10:38

I received an e-mail from DP regarding the 3% royalty.

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Currently, we are changing our monthly subscription royalties, so you will be receiving 44% out of each monthly subscription download.

WHEN?

I don't know, but I've asked them.