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but why someone have to criticize those who produce AI content?Everyone does what they want,as if it were easy to produce quality AI content,it's not easy.

it makes no difference to me,only 22% of my port is AI.

However,as far as I know,AI content can also be used to train AI,information that comes from an official statement from Adobe,I don't want to misremember but I don't think so.

Who knows?Maybe it's not a glitch,maybe it's a choice to temporarily highlight the real contents.

Adobe's collection currently reports 401 million real content and 230 million AI content.

That's fine for me,it may be that I sell some real videos in the meantime,since I haven't sold one since November on Adobe,while in the meantime I sold some on SS,in November I sold several videos on Adobe,even a simple food video for 14 usd.

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a really terrible start to the year for me on AS,at the moment my weekly rank is worse than my full rank.

This January so far is much worse than January 2024 and I risk ending the month at a loss compared to last year,but anything can still happen,the month is still long.

the only thing I know is that yesterday I didn't work,the desire to create is currently reduced to a minimum,given the poor results so far since the beginning of the year,I've actually earned more on SS up until now,I hope that the situation on Adobe will improve as soon as possible,and I can find my creative spirit again!  :)

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Shutterstock.com / Re: Shuterstock about to get eaten by Getty
« on: January 10, 2025, 06:07 »
injustice and me are usually  playing ping pong about the adobe algos where the royalty is fixed  :)

but you are right, agencies with multiple royalty levels can benefit financially by promoting the lower tier files.

another reason why fixed royalty is better, it removes evil suspicions.  ;)

true! :D regarding Adobe,but in the end in my opinion we are both right,because one thing does not exclude the other.

regarding instead the merger between SS and Getty,it will most likely be possible to reach Getty customers by selling on SS and Shutterstock customers by continuing to contribute on Istock.

imo this merger will lead to an increase in customers and sales on both these agencies,but it is also very likely that a fixed 15% on non-exclusive royalties will also be imposed on SS.

It is also possible that content on SS will be subject to a single use license with connect sales,in short I believe that SS will become Getty style,but clearly it is still too early to say.




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Shutterstock.com / Re: Shuterstock about to get eaten by Getty
« on: January 09, 2025, 11:45 »
The driving force is customer interactions, not chaos and not a magical computer program "looking after" contributors and "distributing" sales to us.

That would make zero sense and remove all incentive to understand customer needs..

Customers are the only people that matter for agencies. As it should be.

but there's no point in insisting,because as I said,you can't know and I don't know either.

in my opinion everything is not so black and white,but it also has many shades of grey,and one thing does not necessarily exclude the other.

why you say:"That would make zero sense and remove all incentive to understand customer needs"

not necessarily,and a well-defined program does not exclude the needs of customers and the importance of what is produced.

In my opinion it's not all so black and white,but there are many nuances.

but like I said,this is just my opinion,I can't know,and neither can you,nor anyone else.

and now I think that's enough because we are deviating too much from the main theme of this discussion! :D



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Shutterstock.com / Re: Shuterstock about to get eaten by Getty
« on: January 09, 2025, 09:39 »
@Cobalt "the algos don't care at all how much money you make".

You can't know this,and I can't know either.

in my opinion,everything follows a well-defined program,and everything works exactly as it should work,and nothing happens by chance,if it weren't like this it would be chaos.

of course it also depends on what you produce,this is certainly a key part,but it is not the only variable.

@LouisPhotos no,Istock won't disappear.  :)

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Shutterstock.com / Re: Shuterstock about to get eaten by Getty
« on: January 09, 2025, 06:12 »
actually since the beginning of the year SS has been doing better than Adobe for me,although I don't think it will last,and soon Adobe will be back to normal.

In any case,it's nice to see some good video sales and above-normal royalties on SS too,considering that I haven't uploaded to SS since September 2023.

in my opinion the merger with Getty will bring more customers on both platforms,it is plausible to think that it will be possible to reach Getty customers also from SS,the problem is that knowing Getty,they will probably bring SS to 15% non-exclusive,but we can't know yet.

Adobe is and remains the best agency in my opinion,and the millions of AI contents uploaded every week make no difference,what in my opinion makes the difference is the number of contributors.

It doesn't matter whether there will be billions of contents on Adobe or not,but the biggest problem that AI is bringing is the amount of contributors that is increasing,because to produce AI content you don't need expensive equipment,or being in particular locations,or paying models,and is accessible to everyone in a very simple way without particular knowledge.

with the increase in contributors the slice of the pie becomes smaller,because in my opinion a program can easily manage billions of contents,but then dividing customer requests by an excessive number of contributors I think is a different story.

but I also think Adobe will have factored this in too,I'm pretty sure they saw this coming too and we'll all continue to earn more the same over time.

although I admit that at the moment the situation appears rather dramatic!  :D

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now pos 2840

but somebody is still in the top 500...

yes but right now,in general we are all selling less than usual,here's another example,your position 2,840 with only 61 sales.

probably at this moment if you only make 50 sales in less than 24 you will already reach below position 1000,probably even less than position 500!

From what I see,it seems clear to me that we are all selling less than usual,except perhaps those who have recently started and are in favor of the algorithm at the moment.

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@yuriy thanks for posting this,you can clearly see that no one is selling yet,it's not good,because under 10,000 with 14 sales is really little.

but congratulations on your first time under 10,000!  :)

@Cobalt thanks,but you also did an extraordinary job last year,and I know that you also always try to create the highest quality and marketability possible,and continuing to do it for a long time as you are doing is not easy.

yes,I think we need at least 5000+ AI people contents with high quality and marketability,contents that stand out,useful,different,interesting....it's not easy.

and then it also takes a long time before they start selling regularly,then it depends,this also takes a bit of luck I think,but also the ability to create them at the right time.

I still believe that dedicating time to creating better and sellable content is always the best choice.

last month I uploaded 617 contents,but I don't know how many of these 617 I will sell.

what I'm doing now is different,I'm pretty sure that this are contents that will sell,but at most I will be able to produce 120 of these contents in a month,because clearly require much more time.




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bad start to the year for me too,but not much different from last year.

up to now I have sold less than last year,but it doesn't make any difference,because at the end of the month I will most likely have a 20-50% more number of sales.

I don't know the earnings,because the earnings may vary more and mostly depend on how many videos I sell.

I started working on the new AI people content,I've already been working on it for a few days,on average 2-3 per day,but it's particular content that takes time,then we already know that the more you look at AI content the more you find things to correct.

that's enough for today,tomorrow I will review the first batch,I will make the last corrections and then indexing,I couldn't even continue tonight,I'm too tired and I wouldn't be able to notice everything I could notice tomorrow morning,when my brain is fresher!  :D

I'm putting in the effort,but it's also time I started seeing better results,or as a last resort,I will change strategy,focusing more on quantity than quality.

honestly I am quite convinced that it doesn't make much difference,and that I will always continue to make 20-70% more in terms of sales number compared to the previous year,with one negative month and perhaps one extremely positive one per year.

which is better than hell,but if it continues like this,the journey to get to an income,at least a decent one,will take too long.

these first 3 months of the year will be very,very important,to understand how,if and when!  :)

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today is a holiday in Italy,Spain,France,Germany,Russia,Iceland,Hungary and Romania.

Epiphany or "Befana" in Italian language.

I see a lot of juicy royalties,but the number of sales is very low.

interesting to note that from the beginning of the year until now I have only sold real photos.

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you started with the low algorithm too!  :D

I lost a lot of positions this week,which is a good sign!  ;)

Why is it a good sign?Because it means that I'm the one who isn't selling at the moment,but in reality many other contributors are selling.

It would be much worse if I moved up the rankings despite selling little,because it would mean that in general less is being sold.

anyway yes Peacesetter,I think you saw correctly,in fact I too had sold more at this point last year.

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exactly,I also started late in 2018,30k files that had 20 years to mature,with countless many more interactions,by now it would have been very different!

I believe that Adobe is different from other agencies,because from what I see the way in which customer requests are managed and therefore sales works differently.

if this were not the case,it would not be possible to earn more already!

the total search for content on Adobe Stock right now reports 624 million,which is at least double of when contributors started to see a decrease in sales at other agencies.

that is,how is it possible that with 624 million content in December I made 73,5% more sales and 52,2% more earnings?

this wouldn't be possible in a "random way" with the amount of content there is on Adobe today.

and then I really don't think that a company like Adobe hasn't thought about the consequences of starting to accept AI content.

what do you think they did? they said: "but yes,let's start accepting millions of contents a week,then we'll see what happens and hope for the best!"  :D

but of course not!Adobe certainly made a long-term projection and evaluated all the consequences of this choice.

this is why in my opinion it won't matter at all on Adobe whether there will be billions of contents in the future or not,because everything has simply already been thought out down to the smallest detail,and in fact you can already see it now.


and sorry if I derailed maybe too much from the main topic...my fault sorry!  :D




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depends on how this merger is managed,there are many possible scenarios.

however I don't know why every articles say "market for stock images has been severely devalued by AI" because that's simply not the case.

Istock was the first to devalue the market by lowering prices to attract more customers and reducing royalties to 15% a decade before AI,they started playing with the spring,which is a lot of fun,but then this game bounces back in your face!  :D

the price of digital content to the end customer must rise,the percentages for contributors must increase.

everything is increasing and we have to earn more,simply this.

AI will never be able to replace the work of digital media creators,AI certainly change,AI have changed the scenario,the type of work a lot....but AI will never be able to replace creators in my opinion,at least not in this century I think!  :)

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in my opinion it could be good news from the point of view of sales volume which could increase for us contributors with a merger.

if they want to hope for a better future they must first of all change the royalty structure,the percentage for contributors must be higher,we are the ones who produce the contents,yes they sell,but they take 85% of the sale,and it is truly too much!

can be for them an opportunity to review their policies,but knowing the 2 subjects I highly doubt it!

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very slow start to the year for me too!  :(

strength and courage!

Christmas holidays are finally over!  :D


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the first sale on AS of 2025,today January 2nd at around 3 pm Italian time.  :)


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General Stock Discussion / Re: New Year's Resolutions
« on: January 02, 2025, 07:31 »
I've submitted a lot to iStock over the past year and have seen significant growth, putting me back to pre-2017 levels. iS/Getty has a huge number of buyers and should not be disregarded imo. My images RPD there is regularly higher than on AS, despite the iS/Getty image royalty rates being only 15%/20%.

but you are one of the few,you must have done a truly exceptional job and I congratulate you and hope that everything gets better and better for you!  :)

I started on Istock in 2018,and I started like a rocket,after 6 months I was already earning about double than in Adobe now,but then in 2021 the decline began until I no longer even made the minimum payout every month.

then in 2022 the definitive break.

my final consideration is that Istock is too unstable,while in Adobe,even if the growth is really slow, from 2018 until 2024 it is a continuous increase.

but this is my experience,which clearly does not necessarily have to be everyone's experience.

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I'm still waiting for the first sale of 2025,at 11.57 am Italian time I still don't see any sales!  :D

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General Stock Discussion / Re: New Year's Resolutions
« on: January 02, 2025, 04:22 »
I'm glad you see it too!

some of you suggest I also upload to other agencies,but the truth is that it's no longer worth it.

some still manage to earn on SS perhaps even more than before because they have been contributors for decades,someone still manages to do it and I can only say that I'm happy if they succeed.

I started on SS in 2018 and peaked in 2021 then when in 2022 I earned less than 2021 I started abandoning SS,and I earned even less in 2023 and even less in 2024.

the truth is that the only serious agency is Adobe,and maybe some exclusive agency like Stocksy perhaps?

Istock is like SS if not worse,it's just a matter of selling off your time and work for pennies,with no guarantees of growth.

at least with Adobe if you work consistently,there is a guaranteed increase over time.

my situation is different,because time is the only thing I can't afford,I need to see "faster" growth,but if I were at least 10 years younger,I wouldn't have any problems.

the only agency left is Adobe,everything else is falling apart!


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General Stock Discussion / Re: New Year's Resolutions
« on: December 31, 2024, 06:41 »
2025 will be an important year in which I will have to make important decisions.

regarding microstock,I will have to at least double the earnings if not triple compared to the 2024 total.

I take this opportunity to wish everyone the best for a better new year both in the microstock and with the people close to you and in everyday life.

happy new year everyone!  :)


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Adobe Stock / Re: What's your weekly ranking and how many images?
« on: December 31, 2024, 06:23 »
Cobalt,last year you were making AI people and I was making videos,now you want to make videos and I want to make AI people!  :D

I haven't sold a single video this month,I have less than a thousand,in November I sold several,and generally I always manage to sell videos every month too.

I haven't done the precise calculation,maybe I will,but in the last 500 sales I believe that 50% are AI and 30% illustrative editorials,10% illustrations and vectors,and the rest 10% real photos and videos.

However,as I said,I will continue to work as I always have for the moment,dedicating time to the work I do,but then certainly if this slow growth continues,unfortunately I cannot afford it,and I will have to start uploading thousands of contents per month with the AI,otherwise it will take too long here!

assuming it is possible to grow quickly!






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Adobe Stock / Re: What's your weekly ranking and how many images?
« on: December 30, 2024, 16:13 »
Glad to hear your December is going well. My December will probably be 15-20% less than Dec 23. The only month in this year which will be lower than last year.

eta now dropping to pos 505

thank you  :) ,but in reality I am not very satisfied with the results,because 50% more than a small sum is still a small sum!

to be at least acceptable it should be at least 150% more in earnings each month compared to the same month of the previous year,that is,in January 2025 I should make at least 150% more than in January 2024 and so for all the months!

and I repeat,150% more in earnings would be barely acceptable,given that a year has passed.

throughout this year I have more or less gone with 40-70% more in sales number every month compared to the same month last year.

anyway ok,for the moment I'll keep this 50% more,I will try to create more people content,the problem is that being able to do everything takes a long time.

What should I do?Should I start being an AI spammer too?  :D

I'll see how it goes,if I can grow quickly by continuing doing things well,even in indexing ok,if not I'll start being a spammer too,generate,upscale,AI indexing,without even looking at the contents and go!

I'll evaluate how next year starts,but I'm already framing a pattern I don't like.

we'll see next year I hope I'm wrong.


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Adobe Stock / Re: What's your weekly ranking and how many images?
« on: December 27, 2024, 08:45 »
same here,less sales this week but the rank has increased quite a bit,precisely because this is the slowest week of the year due to the Christmas holidays,so in general we are all selling less than usual,and even a few sales increase the rank.

This year I even managed to sell on Christmas Day,something that had never happened before.

recovery begins on January 2nd,and clearly from January 6th we begin to return to normality.

I'm currently at about 70% more sales this month and about 50% more earnings compared to December 2023.

This December was by far the month in which I uploaded the most in almost 7 years,much more than usual.

I'm trying to finish my current project so I can move on to the next one,I also have several things in mind for Easter and I have to hurry because it's starting to get late.

too many things to do and too little time!  :D


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General Stock Discussion / Re: What's the Future of Microstock
« on: December 23, 2024, 07:08 »
thank you,happy holidays to you and all of you too!  :)

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Process I use to keyword my images:

1)  Write in text editor comma separated list I can think of.  Do not look anywhere else - only the image, and what it conveys
2)  Cross-check against Adobe/Shutterstock suggestions.   Couple of words I didn't think of come out of this
3)  If I still feel I am missing something, I will search on Alamy for similar content
4)  Once satisfied I have captured everything essential, ensure most significant keywords are top 10 in the list (This is for Adobe mostly, but also helps with Alamy super tags later)
5)  Copy and paste.  Same for all agencies (including IS, don't worry about managed keyword nonsense)

AI suggestions could plug in somewhere around step 3.  But again, just blindly let AI keyword your image would be recipe for disaster IMHO

It seems like a good plan,well thought out.

as far as I'm concerned I invest even more time in indexing,but you have to consider that I also have more time,since I only work with Adobe,even if I still have other active ports.

is not possible to have 2 heavens in indexing,or in anything in life,or do things quickly or do them well.

certainly the right one would be in the middle,but often there are no shortcuts.

nice idea to test skills against AI!  :)

But excuse me I'm not taking part,you don't want me to flaunt everything I've learned in 7 years like it was nothing!  :D

just remember that the keywords are not shown,only the descriptions,no one will ever be able to copy the keywords to you by browsing the Adobe library.


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