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iStockPhoto.com / Re: No POTW this week... I would bet...
« on: May 04, 2010, 00:04 »
She's reached the MILLION.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: No POTW this week... I would bet...
« on: May 03, 2010, 15:45 »
She's got out the party balloon already...

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: Unedited Nasa image ?
« on: May 01, 2010, 16:46 »
I think the issue here is not whether the image is simple but whether the creator has added enough of their own creative content to a public domain image to claim it as their own work. istock clearly thinks not, even though it looks significantly different from the original. How much creative input was required to make that change? Not saying I agree with istock, just trying to clarify the issues.

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Let me restate this - the community aspect of things is in direct opposition to the business side of things, at this point, imo.
Well stated, and as my shrink tells me this is the fundamental quandary of the human condition - our needs are individual but our means of attaining them are social. Without an adequate number of competent competitors there would be no istock.

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Apart from the forums istock organises events such as the recent 'lypse in Cannes. Once again, more experienced members helping less experienced. Perhaps you (Sean) don't see any value in these, as it's not in the spirit of competition and business, unless the organisers are being paid a huge amount to run them.

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Community is still alive and well on istock. I'm a member of the Push for Gold group, that started as Push for Bronze a couple of years ago, morphed into Push for Silver, and is now Push for gold. About 70 contributors trying to achieve milestones. Nearly everyone in that group (a few full time professional photographers now dabbling in stock,  a few former amateurs now full time microstockers, and mostly 'amateurs' with another life) has mentioned how important the race thread is for maintaining motivation, setting goals and giving advice. Two member have just reached silver, and their two-person race to that milestone generated about three pages of posts in the thread in the past 24 hours. We keep track of stats through Google charts. The maintainer estimates that as a group we have generated nearly a million dollars for istock. A few members will without a doubt be high-flyers in the not-too-distant future. Most are exclusive but a few are not.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: Mystery person
« on: April 25, 2010, 17:00 »
Just a bit odd that she's chosen to go incognito in the chart, most people haven't. Not that the chart is complete either.

Perhaps most people haven't, but a seemingly large number of those on the first couple of pages have.  Seems pretty obvious why... ;)
Indeed, but in the case of bimbim she hasn't really had 16,000,000 dls, and isn't 'really' on the first page.

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Off Topic / Re: To share with you...
« on: April 25, 2010, 16:48 »
Looks like fun. Have a great birthday Ivan.

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General Stock Discussion / Re: Buyers frustrations
« on: April 25, 2010, 02:09 »
Get real people, the world has changed. I get my money from ATMs not bank tellers these days. And pay my accounts online. With respect to imagery, I'm a very small buyer. I teach, and occasionally buy an image for inclusion in my teaching material. Do you really think I'd be paying Getty RM prices? I've enjoyed quite a few battles in the istock steel cage, and had to buy images for quite a few of them. Wouldn't be doing that either under the old regime.

Perhaps traditonal buyers are being seduced away from quality imagery by the abundance of decent cheap stuff. You may want a return to the good old days but ain't gonna happen.

As a contributor I have another full time job and no intention to work at stock (or photography generally) full time. However I have few assets and I'm getting on. I expect istock to pay my rent by end of next year, and why should I get out of the game just because some people think I'm not taking it serioulsy enough.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: Mystery person
« on: April 25, 2010, 01:59 »
No its not. Its Patrick Demachelier.
Or perhaps Annie has joined istock to help out her debt situation.

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General Stock Discussion / Re: Buyers frustrations
« on: April 24, 2010, 20:53 »

I don't think I've ever made a buying decision based on an image.  ...

Consciously, you mean.
True, but then I don't belong to any demographic that advertising generally targets.

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General Stock Discussion / Re: Buyers frustrations
« on: April 24, 2010, 19:15 »
Hi HQIMages,

 Sometimes to get something a bit higher in quality and concept you need to pay more. If you check some top RM agencies I think you will find images that have very strong talent and big budgets. This is where the cream can be found. There are some Micro images that meet the standards of some lower end Macro RM shots but there is no control over who or how many times it has been used.
 If you go with Macro RM you can see the history of the sales and be sure it doesn't and won't conflict with your clients needs, you can even pay to make sure no one uses it for a certain period of time. You must also educate the client that the image is what stops the buyer to read the copy. You place the right image in an add it will more than cover the cost in return sales from the cost of the image usage.

Best,
Jonathan
I find it interesting that you think the image is what sells (or am I overgeneralizing here?). I don't think I've ever made a buying decision based on an image. Usually I'm looking for very specific things and it's always features I go for. To me images in advertizing are like muzak in department stores - create a nice ambience but not actually meaningful in context.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: Mystery person
« on: April 24, 2010, 19:08 »
Thanks Sean, that's probably who. Just a bit odd that she's chosen to go incognito in the chart, most people haven't. Not that the chart is complete either.

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iStockPhoto.com / Mystery person
« on: April 24, 2010, 18:30 »
We all know that Lise Gagne is on the verge of 1 million downloads on istock. I thought Yuri, at 860,000+ was second, but the istock contributor charts shows two mystery people above him. One is obviously lise. So who's the other?

ETA: After the server problems istock had a little while ago a couple of contributors were reporting that their stats showed millions of downloads. Perhaps one of those has gone unrectified. Or maybe I'm missing someone obvious.

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General Stock Discussion / Re: Buyers frustrations
« on: April 24, 2010, 09:13 »
isn't it ironic that the cowboy photo above wasn't taken from microstocks ?

but check on Alamy how many pics they have searching for "cowboy skiing" :

http://www.alamy.com/search-results.asp?CreativeOn=1&qt=cowboy+skiing&all=1&creative=&adv=1&dtfr=&dtTo=&et=0x000000000000000000000&ag=0&vp=0&loc=0&lic=6&lic=1&hc=&selectdate=1&txtdtfr=&txtdtto=&size=0xFF&ot=1&ot=2&ot=4&ot=8&imgt=1&imgt=2&archive=1&chckarchive=1

and here's the original, from Alamy :



And how many of them are model-released? Micros cater mostly to commercial use.

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Newbie Discussion / Re: New microstocker :)
« on: April 24, 2010, 08:57 »
From what I've heard, it's taking two week or so for new reviews to be made, maybe longer right now because of some site problems and several of the inspectors being at a junket in Cannes.
You certainly need more patience in the microstock game.
I'd be really interested in why you applied there when you "didn't want to contribute to them anyway".
As for the percentage business, when I started off, I submitted RF to iStock (20% non-exclusive) and a small UK specialist agency (RM; 40% to photog.) With the RM agency in over 3 years I've had one sale, netting me less than I currently get in iStock in each week of this year except this week. I've got about 600 pics in Alamy (60% to photog) and in a year I've made 4 sales, the total of which is less than I've earned on iStock every week this year except this week. (To be fair, I've got less than 200 files in the UK agency, and haven't uploaded anything for about 2 1/2 years, since they were moving their main focus from 'UK' to specifically Welsh. And I've just gone over the 2000 files on iStock, so it's slightly apples and oranges).
However, as Sean would say, if you don't contribute to iStock, that's less opposition for the rest of us.  :-*

Maybe I should have clarified a bit more on "didn't want to contribute to them anyway." Being new to stock photography, I didn't know much about it when I applied for an account. After some research, I found out what my work -mainly interested in wildlife- was better off with RM in a traditional stock agency like Alamy.

And for those of who contribute quality work to microstock, I have a question- why do it? You get an unfair payment for the time you spent in getting the shot. Those of you who say you do it for fun, not money- why not contribute your good works to macrostock, and not so good to micro?
It is actually possible to make good money on micros. Volume sales.

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Newbie Discussion / Re: Repeated rejection from iStockphoto
« on: April 23, 2010, 20:34 »
My current acceptance rate on istock (for recent images) is excellent, and most rejections are for similars. I'm shooting still-life type shots, different subjects under very similar lighting (strobes and reflectors) and it works well. However, I don't even bother taking my camera outside anymore. Too many rejections for lighting from outdoor shots.

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General Stock Discussion / Re: Buyers frustrations
« on: April 23, 2010, 09:15 »

I recently came across a graphic designer in my town that gets all of his images via google images, does he get a fund from clients for images, no, does he pay for his, no. Unfortunately this is what we have to compete with, so microstock is a great way to go for certain clients.

I believe you should have put "graphic designer" in quotes.  Obviously a real professional would not be stealing images and using them without a proper license.  You can feel good that neither you or you clients are going to have their a$$ sued off, which certainly this other "designer" will. 

Google images, for anyone who doesn't know it, is not a free image source!  It only indexes and links images that are already used somewhere else by someone who licensed them.  They are NOT a source for stock imagery.
HI Lisa. Not every country has copyright laws. 1% of people are psychopaths. Have a nice day.

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General Stock Discussion / Re: Buyers frustrations
« on: April 23, 2010, 02:30 »
I don't agree
I think a lower volume of 'real', and unusual images will still trump a bigger amount of over-saturated, over-processed ones..

Yeah.  Buyers talk the talk, but they don't walk the walk.  Which isn't bad, I mean, but they say they want this or that, but they seem to be happy buying what is out there.  Although I do get the sense they are getting tired of a certain set of models, as mentioned in the OP.
Still selling well though.

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But who is it who buys stock? At work today I saw the latest copy of New Scientist in the staff tea room. Opened it and a big ad on the inside of the front cover. I immediatley recognized the three models  in one photo - Cecilie, Sophie and Ask. Not too many blond, blue eyed Scandinavians in India or China.

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Dreamstime.com / Re: Stock "factories" slowing uploads?
« on: April 15, 2010, 03:04 »
He's uploaded to istock on April 5th. And he's been uploading video there.

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Looks like the yogurt company might be at fault. It's clearly marked RM with no release at a couple different agencies.

http://www.reflexstock.com/image/4407485/Greece-Arachoua-portrait-man-dressed-traditionally.html

Or who knows. It may have been incorrectly marked and was changed at some point.

Or the designer perhaps?

ETA: I seen it reported that some companies won't allow the use microstock because they cannot personally confirm all releases (because agencies won't give out contact details for models). Perhaps this justifies that attitude. istocks recent legal guarantees make sense in this scenario.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: More istock server problems
« on: April 13, 2010, 14:45 »
IIRC isock didn't start life as a business but as a community sharing site. I think this is both their strength and their weakness.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: I don't understand
« on: April 12, 2010, 19:38 »
From the istock home page (the logged in one) you can see latest images in the bottom right corner, which expands to show all recently approved images. Browse recent from the left nav bar takes you to the same place. I think buyers often browse these pages.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: More istock server problems
« on: April 12, 2010, 16:08 »
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