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« on: June 11, 2017, 13:55 »
...Simply respond to them in a kind fashion and explain them your situation.
I would suggest you write a polite (no snark) note to support explaining that you were confused by the signup process and only opened the second account because you thought you'd made a mistake with the first. Apologize for that and ask them to please remove the warning as it was an unintentional error. No sense starting out with warnings you don't deserve. If you do decide to upload to SS, I suggest you try to view the process of uploading your work with a little less emotion. They will accept or reject your submissions on the basis of what you upload, not on how many year's experience you have or how many items you have to upload (and yes, they do have a very uneven inspection process, but that's the reality of dealing with them). You'll drive yourself crazy if you react to rejections the way you did to the automated message about opening multiple accounts. Good luck
1777
« on: June 11, 2017, 13:46 »
My sales for the 10th are showing (as are those for the 11th)
1778
« on: June 08, 2017, 14:42 »
They've tried to corner the market by lowering prices until competitors gave up. Now, having completely devalued their product, all they can do is cut their operational costs to the bone and try to Make It Up In Volume...
Their prices have gone up a lot from when they started. I don't know why people keep peddling this lie?
Yes, but... At the beginning, when their collection was tiny and they had only an all-you-can-eat subscription for $89.99 a month. It grew to $119, $129 and then in 2005 $139 but with a 25 a day limit. Collection grew and prices did increase for a while, but there have been cuts along the way in prices for ELs, On Demand, Video and most recently the sleight of hand with lower cost subscriptions for a lower volume commitment (the only way the subscription model makes sense from a contributor point of view is that you trade low prices for high volume) which effectively was a cut-rate on demand sale as well as a lower cost of entry. They have clearly made most of these cuts because of competitive pressure (largely Adobe) and for a while, the high value SOD sales mostly made up for the other cuts, but now they've effectively "disappeared" most of the high value SODs, that feels like another cut, albeit of a different sort.
1779
« on: June 02, 2017, 13:03 »
...anybody have the may total amont $ taked by shutterstock to payout ? Mine is not taked yet
Mine is not yet reset - either on the web site or the iPhone app. I don't know why this isn't automated (or perhaps it's supposed to be, but it's broken in some way). This should be a pretty simple month by month activity... regarding your large sale, I understand your wish for the sale to be real, but I've never heard of anything of that order of magnitude for a SS royalty. The largest I've personally seen was just over $120. Given all the software glitches they've had of late, the odds are high that they've just effed up but don't realize it yet (or they realize it, but they don't yet know what the right amount is). They know they're not in any hurry as nothing can get paid out until July for a June 1st sale.
1780
« on: June 02, 2017, 09:15 »
Has SS changed much over the past 15 years? I wonder how much of the current system is band-aid'd 15 year old technology.
Look at part of a glassdoor review (from April 2017) of a departed software engineer "Preventing the company from having high uptimes is a massive pile of tech debt, the fixing of which is often prioritized out of existence. Several attempts have been made in splitting up the monolithic Perl app that runs the store into several smaller microservices; however, since no resource planning, performance measurements, or any other sort of proactive actions were taken by the developers, the microservices have only increased the number of single-points-of-failure. Compounding issues is a relatively-new directive that all new services *must* be written in NodeJS, and while this is a positive trend from the previous directive of "you can write your code in any language you want";, the extremely-questionable choice of NodeJS was made by a small committee of developers, with no input from other teams in the company. As such, development at Shutterstock is a nightmare of Lovecraftian proportions, which both developers and infrastructure being ill-equipped for the scale and challenges that need solving. Projects at Shutterstock used to be in pretty much every language under the sun (Java, Python, Perl, Ruby, NodeJS, and Go used to all be supported runtimes), so it's commonplace to be handed code in a language you're unfamiliar with. As a result, services are rewritten every time the assigned developers change (which is frequent, due to high turnover), and as a result, there are many instances where two or three microservices running to serve the same function. The developers themselves are a mixed bag. As stated in Pros, there are some very smart people here, but they're sadly dwindling in number as the days go by. Instead of hiring experienced developers to replace them, managers instead hire very-inexperienced developers, often right out of college, or very inept developers, who actively make poor coding choices and lower the overall stability of the site further. Since these developers often function by pushing untested code into production with minimal test coverage, problems go undiscovered until they cause production problems, and only after several hours of looking at red herrings first. The toxic nature of the culture at Shutterstock means that teams are rarely willing to work together, instead hoarding infrastructure resources and institutional knowledge in blind grabs for power and prestige. Shadow infrastructures are commonplace, only being discovered when they cause production outages or break in some other way that affects the developers who created them. At this point, the Infrastructure team is expected to support and fix these solutions, without being given either the manpower to do so, or the authority to remove these teams' abilities to create their shadow servers again. As a result, the infrastructure is in a constant state of flux, and a recent decision to move the entirety of the infrastructure to the cloud was both poorly-justified and badly-planned, and will lead to more outages in the future. A lot of these faults and problems lie squarely at the feet of management, who have to be among the most inept group of executives I've ever worked for. Middle management is easily the worst, with good management is often coached out of the company, replaced by others who are too busy playing politics to manage effectively. There are way too many middle managers, and others are promoted to management positions without experience or a clear directive. As a result, managers often battle with one another over responsibilities and power, and burying each other in meetings is far more common than it should be. This directly affects morale and productivity, and engineers are often paralyzed into inaction for fear of making the wrong move and losing their jobs. At the C-level, the poor performances continue. The CEO is a megalomaniac who micro-manages the site and the work teams are doing, often wasting tons of resources and time by refusing to allow more-qualified employees to handle the day-to-day operations. The tasks he sets are almost always impossible to complete on time, and he has no qualms about dismissing managers that he feels have failed him, even if the failures were due to his poor planning or lack of understanding of his own company's technical stack. This further increases stress and fear among the engineers as well. Overall, working at Shutterstock is a frustrating, unfulfilling experience, and there is almost certainly a better company in NYC that would make better use of your skills, and respect you more as a person. Avoid!"
1781
« on: June 02, 2017, 08:11 »
Last sale was in January and it's been flatlining since then
I haven't been uploading, so that might have something to do with it - I didn't like their one price approach and thought I'd see if it boosted sales (in which case I'd have resumed uploading).
Whether it's the pricing or something else, who knows, but I don't plan to upload again until I see signs of life. I don't plan to remove what I have unless they change something about their royalty schemes or do something stupid (like Dollar Photo Club stupid).
1782
« on: June 01, 2017, 15:32 »
For what it's worth, I have trouble with clicking on the stars with my Wacom tablet too - but I don't think it's new. I also had all sorts of problems with selections via the tablet with the old interface as well (and my tablet works just fine elsewhere).
Mostly I find the mouse (which I keep on the desk just in case but never use outside of for Alamy or if the Wacom driver crashes!) works just fine, but I use it so rarely it's hard to know.
Given how long it took them to deliver this new uploader, I'd hoped for something better...
1783
« on: June 01, 2017, 08:21 »
Thanks! If you look at recent Glassdoor reviews (there's a couple from departing engineers), that paints a somewhat different picture from the buzzword-heavy press-release from Oringer and his new development VP. We only get to look at things from the outside, but given the poor site performance (downtime, bugs and "improving" things that don't matter or making them worse (the contributor dashboard), I'm inclined to believe things are not all going smoothly with the latest (of many) CTOs and platform revamp. On top of which, I don't think it's a business strategy to improve your site's code - if it were, Canstock would have been the market leader years ago (when Duncan was innovating and Canstock had great features no other agency did)... I asked someone who's currently in the software business about 12-factor apps, and the summary of the answer was that it's great if you can do it, but not many can...
1784
« on: May 31, 2017, 11:44 »
In addition to the comments above, I would add that your keywords need to be improved. Many sites do not include titles in the search, so with this image for example you don't have man or woman in the keywords - "one young man" is from Getty's controlled vocabulary and on other sites it's actively harmful as no one searches with that language. On SS, it appears they search the title, but on Fotolia, your images aren't found if your search includes man or woman. In this image, you don't have young but you do have 20-29 years, you have talking but not chatting, you have indoors in the title but not the keywords. There are tons more examples, but you need to get solid comprehensive keywords describing the people, place, interaction, ethnicity, clothing, etc. Some of the styling looks really odd to me - strange clothes or strange setting. This may be a US vs. Europe thing - and that may be fine - but you might want to try and broaden the appeal of generic images. If it's supposed to be something local, then put the city or area in the keywords so it'll get found. Examples here, here and here. Iron the shirt! Why is the cupcake in a knocked over teacup? With images like this, include the place (city/state/country). Not much of a market for large tire lifting?? A lot of stock is about giving buyers the expected and saying the obvious, so things that don't look "typical" sell, but not in the quantities you might like. Hope this helps
1785
« on: May 31, 2017, 08:13 »
It's behind a paywall and I am not a subscriber. I'm guessing it's Oringer trying to convince analysts that SS can become a "platform" versus just a stock agency as a way to keep growing?
1786
« on: May 26, 2017, 14:38 »
I just received payment this morning from Crated - I had apparently made a sale March 10th (I did find the email but hadn't noticed it at the time). The timing of the payment is a bit off though - it is supposed to be by the 15th of the month for all sales made by the 15th of the prior month. There's some wording about the date of shipment to the customer, so let's assume that pushed a March sale past the 15th as a shipment date. Even so, I should have been paid by May 15th and they've pushed that out to the end of the month this time. I did get paid, so that's good, but moving out payment schedules is never a good sign (and I did check the FAQ which still says the 15th)
1787
« on: May 25, 2017, 19:51 »
They announced this at the end of January https://blogs.adobe.com/creativecloud/introducing-500px-for-adobe-stock-premium-collection/https://about.500px.com/press/I didn't care as I had already pulled my uploads there from Marketplace when they cut the royalty rate. These days, the only emails I get from 500px are the discount offers on their various paid plans, so I figured they'd largely shifted focus to charging photographers money and away from trying to be a stock agency. The long lead times on sale reporting and payment are certainly found elsewhere (Alamy as an example). The higher the price, the longer you wait to get paid
1788
« on: May 25, 2017, 19:19 »
... I did find a couple of things interesting. One is that it if you add up the payouts from 2010 to 2016 and compare that to the revenue for those years (from the 2016 annual report), payouts were 24.8% of revenue. They have claimed several times that they pay out about 30% of revenue in royalties (28% from the 2016 earnings call transcript)....
I received email earlier today from Shutterstock Contributor Support saying that they'd seen my post here and wanted to clarify that the payouts in the infographic were not all payouts made, just those to Shutterstock image & video. So payouts to other brands are not included, but revenue from the other brands is in their 2016 numbers. So this explains why the percentage is different. I asked them if they'd like me to correct this and was given permission to use the information in their email to do so. So I have  I didn't realize they still checked in here...
1789
« on: May 24, 2017, 17:16 »
"Looking at the 2016 payout information, "The Americas", which is more than just the US, received 10.9% of the payout total." I assumed they had a rather "idiosyncratic" definition of the Americas i.e excluding the US . As a piece of management information its close to useless....well actually helping me as a contributor it is useless.
I thought about that, but if you add up all the numbers they do report it's $114.7680 million so I think "The Americas" has to include the US, Canada, Mexico, Brazil, etc.
1790
« on: May 24, 2017, 16:45 »
[Mind if I ask you why you wouldn't trust Depositphotos with your images?
They have a long history of saying one thing and doing another and pursuing shady deals of one sort or another. One of the biggest was in providing content to a web site for ShotShop where work was sold for high-ish prices but the DepositPhotos contributor was paid a subscription. That was bad enough, but they included portfolios that had opted out of partner sales, trying to justify it saying it wasn't a partnership but an API deal. http://www.microstockgroup.com/depositphotos/the-german-shotshop-reseller-of-depositphotos/When they first started, the fact that the company had previously been a file sharing site didn't inspire confidence. Then I received email asking me to upload my portfolio and offering a "deal". When I asked about that, the return email said I would get preferred search position and wouldn't have to start at the lowest rank. That seemed truly awful on two levels. 1. The buyer wants the best search results, not some loaded dice, and 2. you can't actually follow through on that promise with more than one person - what happens to my preferred placement when the next newbie is offered preferred placement too. That combination of shady and stupid really turned me off, and every time I thought about changing my mind, there'd be another report of a problem (typically found here) and so I never ended up joining.
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« on: May 24, 2017, 13:02 »
Not sure who they're targeting with this graphic. If they're recruiting new contributors, that might explain it - certainly for those of us who are contributors, we focus on our own situation and the increase (or decrease) in payouts. I wish they'd just get the basics right - fixing bugs and generating new sources of revenue - versus spending time on window dressing. I did find a couple of things interesting. One is that it if you add up the payouts from 2010 to 2016 and compare that to the revenue for those years (from the 2016 annual report), payouts were 24.8% of revenue. They have claimed several times that they pay out about 30% of revenue in royalties (28% from the 2016 earnings call transcript). The other is the relationship of payouts in the US versus revenue earned there. In the 2016 annual report, SS stated that 2/3 of their revenue came from outside the US - so 1/3 is from the US. Looking at the 2016 payout information, "The Americas", which is more than just the US, received 10.9% of the payout total. In other words, those of us based in the US are not pulling our weight with respect to addressing our own market's needs well. So much for local content
1792
« on: May 23, 2017, 18:06 »
Depending on what's in your portfolio, I'd suggest you give Alamy a little longer. They don't sell in high volume, but the sales value is typically higher and so it can be worthwhile.
I wouldn't trust DepositPhotos with my work. I left CanStock, 123rf and BigStock because of low sales and dropping royalty rates. I have a small subset of work at Pond5, but I don't upload there any more as sales for photos are at best occasional. I have a portfolio at Dreamstime but they're circling the drain and I no longer upload (as they don't reduce the royalty rate when sales tank, I'm willing to let the existing work hang out).
My last 5 sales at Alamy netted about $95 a month (those are from April & May) - that's a reasonable low-end site to have for me. The only issue you'll face is that sales take a massively long time to clear, so you need to be patient...
1794
« on: May 19, 2017, 11:38 »
In addition to the above, don't send an ID image via email. It really should only be uploaded via a secure connection. I'd also suggest, for your own protection, that you try providing them a version with the numbers blurred out. They should accept that and it makes it harder for anyone to misuse it in the event a site's internal security is crap and someone gets their hands on the JPEG
1795
« on: May 18, 2017, 18:41 »
I don't do video, but I have had SS contact me to ask for details on an image - typically to know exactly where it was taken. It's been done when the buyer wanted to know. I had one enterprising buyer find me via e-mail (my real name is used in my SS portfolio) to ask the same question that SS support had asked. Perhaps they were concerned SS was making up answers  I can only guess as to why the date might matter to a buyer, but give them what you can easily find and ask if that will do - a year might be all they need.
1796
« on: May 16, 2017, 20:00 »
Never having had to call abroad, I'm not up to these technologies, but I'm guessing that the other person also has to be on the Skype or Internetcalls system? So if they choose not to be on these, the technologies wouldn't work.
VoIP doesn't require the other party to have specific software. With Skype, for example, calls to another Skype user are free. You pay when you call a non-Skype phone number, so there's no requirement for the other party to have any software - just a phone number. What you pay varies by country and phone type (I think they still charge more for calls to cell phones). And Skype can be great for calls anywhere, not just overseas. If your internet connection stinks though, it's a pain
1797
« on: May 16, 2017, 12:20 »
What's going on and why is Shutterstock rating at 73.1 percent?
Mainly because it's the 'Microstock Poll Results', not the 'OscarWilliams Microstock Poll Results'.
Another factor is that SpaceStockFootage does video. I suspect that the situation with video is not the same as for photos, or illustrations - micro-markets within the overall market for stock imagery. If the growth is slowing (which it is overall even according to the public numbers) that may be a mix of varying levels of ups and downs across media types and e-commerce vs. enterprise customers. Given the single earning number on the right, it just can't capture all that (in addition to lots of people not filling out that poll).
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« on: May 13, 2017, 14:07 »
Their Facebook page has a post from April, as does their Twitter account, so they are still around in some form. Have you considered becoming a public nuisance in your request for money? Sometimes businesses behave better when their misdeeds are given a public airing. Waiting four months and asking via email with no reply seem to indicate that escalation is reasonable...
An article about the agency when it started (2008?) said that Generation Four Company LLC in Kuwait was behind it. Perhaps you can dig around locally and find the people behind it to try and ask them about getting paid?
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« on: May 12, 2017, 18:18 »
Today's download count at SS was more like a weekend than a Friday (which is typically the slowest weekday as it's already the weekend in Asia/Pacific).
At Fotolia/Adobe, today was lower than Thursday but same as Wednesday, so it wasn't an across-the-board slowdown (like a holiday would be)
Did SS have any outages today?
1800
« on: May 12, 2017, 07:54 »
In the Uploaded files section, on the far right panel, at the bottom, are the words "Delete files". Click on that. It's a bit confusing in that it's not a button or otherwise highlighted (unless you hover over it)
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