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On a side note, but still kind of related... would be nice if they could add VideoBlocks to the Microstock Poll result... see where it's at in the list. Although it might not be in the top tier, I'd be surprised if it wasn't somewhere in the middle tier, so I think it deserves a place in the poll. Although... maybe it's being left out as it's video only?

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First time I hear of Artbeat Express.
Is anyone else uploading there?

It's reasonably new, started about a year ago I think. Subscription only. I don't have masses of sales there, only between $25 and $125 a month. On the bright side, I had a top selling file there for a few months when they first started, so they invited me to upload to the main Artbeats site. HD clips go for about $199 to $299 each there. No sales yet though! :(

Clips are instantly published on Artbeats Express, which is nice, if slightly worrying.

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Yep... 'early in the month variance' strikes again. Now it's...

1) Envato
2) Pond5
3) Shutterstock
4) Artbeats Express

Keep in mind I have to estimate the Artbeats earnings... as it's a subscription based service, and your earnings depend on number of downloads, you never know exactly what you'll get until the end of the month. The lowest I've had was an average of $7.5 per download, the maximum was about $22.50 and the average is usually about $12.50 to $15.00

I have noticed that the average I get per sale, has been dropping over the past few months though. I'm guessing more people are downloading more stuff recently, trying to make sure they get their money's worth each month. 

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PhotoDune / Re: Anyone unworthy of Photodune yet?
« on: February 10, 2017, 02:20 »
Aside from quality, maybe it has something to do with sales per image? I get that it might seem strange that top sellers are being ditched, but if one person sells $1000 a month with 25,000 images, then it's maybe not quite as impressive as somebody who sells $50 a month with 500 images.

Or not. Who knows!

Just to note, were people following the launch and 'unlaunch' of Unstock on the forums? Unstock was an experimental site that they ran for a year to try out a few different approaches to selling stock photography. Different prices, a different way of presenting content, a highly curated portfolio of the kind of images they're now looking to keep etc etc....

https://forums.envato.com/t/unlaunching-unstock/74125

I have no idea what the results were, but based on the post above, their research must have show that you can make a whole bunch of changes, get rid of 90% of your portfolio, and still end up making more money (or at least more money per image). So I'd like to think that they actually researched this decision and tested it out before deciding on this 'brave new world' of theirs. Time will tell if it was the right way to go.

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I wouldn't say it was success, just a random bunch of sales early in the month, and a bit of a slow month so far on the regulars. They normally come in about sixth or seventh for me.

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1) Envato
2) Pond5
3) Artbeats Express
4) Fotolia

That's not how the months normally end up for me though... hard to say for certain, but Videoblocks will probably come second, Pond5 third, and Shutterstock/iStock pretty much tying for fourth.

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Off Topic / Re: Stop Complaining
« on: February 09, 2017, 18:19 »
All right then - can anyone give any concrete reasons to be 'optimistic' about microstock?

There's a new dashboard at Shutterstock?

That's a psychological trick, the three main figures are always rising even though your sales may be declining.

But the font showing my earnings is now massive... so it feels like my earnings just got bigger. And that's the most important thing.

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Off Topic / Re: Stop Complaining
« on: February 09, 2017, 18:12 »
All right then - can anyone give any concrete reasons to be 'optimistic' about microstock?

There's a new dashboard at Shutterstock?

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PhotoDune / Re: What a "nice" surprise
« on: February 09, 2017, 18:10 »
Envato is a garbage company. It's been fairly obvious for years. Even some of the voices here that shamelessly defended them in the past, their loyalty rewarded by having their image portfolios deleted and a middle finger. This is why it's bad to support garbage companies, even if you're making a few bucks in the short term. I don't think there's anyone not part of the Envato employees and volunteers team defending them anymore.

What's really sad is that tons of people will come right back to whatever the next pile of crap they try to pull happens to be.

Anything specific that makes you think they're garbage? Aside from the recent PhotoDune thing of course, as I'm assuming you felt that way before that.

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PhotoDune / Re: What a "nice" surprise
« on: February 09, 2017, 16:16 »
I don't work for Envato, I moderate on their forums in a voluntary capacity. And I use the same username here as I do there, so I'm not exactly hiding it.

There's no benefit to me if Elements succeeds, or if it doesn't... I'm just the voice of reason, the optimist, and the devil's advocate in a world of stock photographers that think the world is ending, everyone is out to get them, and their work is so amazingly fantastic that anybody who thinks otherwise is obviously an idiot.   

If Elements turns out to be s**t for stock photo revenue, then I'll gladly admit that it's s**t for stock photo revenue... but seeing as they haven't launched photos there yet, it's maybe a bit too soon for people to dismiss it. Can't be worse than iStock, right?!

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Yeah, I'd be surprised! Even if cryptocurrencies do become the future of currency, bitcoin would probably be a bit outdated in 100 years. Maybe a Bitcoin 4.0 or something, but I'd be very surprised if it still exists in its current incarnation. 

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In a hundred years' time, your dollars-in-hand will have equally zero value, by the way: the dollar has a track record of losing around 95% per one-hundred years, but you're still using it.

Well most people won't hold 100 dollars in their hand for 100 years. They'll spend it, or put it in a high interest account which will pretty much cancel out inflation. So your 100 dollars will only be worth zero if you're an idiot who happens to be immortal, and you have enough money that you don't actually need to spend it during those 100 years.

And your 95% claim (I would have thought it was about 80 to 85%, but I'll take your word for it) it only makes Bitcoin sound that great because Bitcoin hasn't been around for 100 years so you can't compare it. What will it be worth in 100 years? $100 per BTC, $10, $1, nothing?

I think it's more likely that a bitcoin will be worth $0 in 100 years, than $100 being worth $1.

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Tell her your husband/wife is a contract killer, and he/she provides a very generous family discount. Might speed things up a bit.

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PhotoDune / Re: What a "nice" surprise
« on: February 09, 2017, 13:11 »
DICKR - Well thats it then. Im giving them 24 hours to answer our mail, and if they dont comply our specific terms we are deleting our account there :-)

A) Isn't 24 hours a bit short notice, given that the 'powers that be' probably won't be at work for 16 of those 24 hours?

B) What are your terms?

C) It's not exactly 'unlimited' downloads. At Videoblocks you can download whatever you want, whenever you want, and you can use it whenever you want... even if your subscription has expired.

For Elements, you need to have an active subscription when you use the item. You also need to register the use of the item, by documenting how you are using it, in what project. So you can't just download anything and everything, and you can't make up what you're using it in. So if you say you're using the image in a cat video, and you actually use it in a dog brochure, you don't have a valid license to use the image... so you're breaching copyright.

Yes, that's not going to stop those who want to cheat the system, but I'd like to think most people play by the rules... otherwise, nobody would ever buy extended licenses or multiple licenses! And if somebody is out to cheat the system, then it's unlikely they're going to want to pay $49 a month for the pleasure... they'll find a way to get images for $0 a month.

Anyway, I'm not saying Element is good or bad for photo types, as it's too early to say. Worth a try though!   

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PhotoDune / Re: Anyone unworthy of Photodune yet?
« on: February 09, 2017, 07:36 »
I'm out too.

Did you receive their last email "trending photoshop actions"?
I think they want to specialize their collection into unnatural pictures and computed "art".
Computer algorithms will produce, in a not so far future, all the images "so clean" and "new standards compatible", that the industry n(f)eeds.
Genetically Modified Images still need real ones, but one day, they will be self-produced, without the protesting humans, claiming their copyright and royalties.
Since I find this kind of images soulless, I don' want to go this way.

Those are actions that are sold on GraphicRiver... nothing to do with PhotoDune. And I'm sure I read that the new rules are no illustrations or CG, so if anything, they're moving further away from that kind of stuff... not closer to it.

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Shutterstock.com / Re: SS hits new lows in terms of quality
« on: February 08, 2017, 22:02 »
Defocused images are normally associated with portraits like the 135mil.DF etc.
 

And even if it was a portrait, you'd like to think that the subject would still be in focus! I appreciate that this could be used as a background for something else, but if somebody has enough knowledge to composite two images together, then it's only going to take them a few seconds to make the background blurred.

I'd go with the 'how it looks without glasses' kind of usage though... no editing required!

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I reviewed his portfolio in detail this weekend, he does actually have 39,000 clips but not very organized so if he is in fact a student I hope he isn't working in the campus library.

What I did noticed and I've already referred his profile to a couple of fellow producers is he does two things, his style seems to be to shoot long lens and take you there into the intensity and the reality of the event, everything I have seen so far is very real , he doesn't set up many shots,  it is FAR from polished work or fine art which makes him basically blazing his own trail and doing his own thing and something completely different than what most stock producers do.

He's basically turned the industry on it's head and with a little luck will break out ahead of the pack and leave everyone else behind and catching up, this of course if he gets things organized. So we must think before we knock his work, this guy might have just started a trend.  Thanks to the OP for positing this profile here, now I've got to get out and shoot in similar fashion.

We don't know if this was his plan or this is just how it came out, I compared his college student clips to others and you can't compare. If he was or is a student while building that collection then he sure was one of those that wasn't sitting around playing league of legends at every possible opportunity.  Not that there is anything wrong with playing league.

He used to be an ENG cameraman but lost a lot of work due to TV stations cutting budgets etc - I know this because he posts constantly on the P5 forums. He certainly hasn't turned the industry on it's head, he's just spent a lot of time shooting everything on his doorstep which in reality is very easily replicated by anyone with a camera. Given the size of his portfolio he should be making A LOT more than he currently is - loads and loads of duplicate clips probably don't help his cause.

And yeah he mentioned he can't afford to upgrade to 4K so that says something...

i completely agree...if the makes 5000 dollar with this stuff really all the world will sign to become ea micro stock contributor don't spread the news...if he makes 1000 dollar is enough

I can't see it. Depends how you word it I guess.

"Hey, if you buy a DSLR, go out and shoot a video, and upload it to Pond5, you'll make 17 cents for it every month! If you shoot two videos, you'll get 34 cents... and so on and so forth."

...is unlikely to get the entire planet itching to sign up!

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Shutterstock.com / Re: SS hits new lows in terms of quality
« on: February 07, 2017, 15:16 »
Looks like the key is to highlight that any 'errors' are 'intentional'... then they'll be accepted!

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He's basically turned the industry on it's head

this guy might have just started a trend.

If five sales a month (from 29,000 clips) is turning the industry on its head, and starting a trend, then I'll stick with run of the mill stuff I think!

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Well if you're losing hundreds from the 2.5%, you're gaining thousands from the Euro being 1.05 to the Dollar rather than 1.25... swings and roundabouts!

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Fair point. I've not checked for a while but I'm pretty sure the difference between my bank and PayPal was pretty minimal.

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My regular bank accounts are much less expensive.

How much though? 'Much' less expensive on 2.5% would be pretty much close to zero.

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General - Top Sites / Re: Istockphoto's very generous reviews
« on: February 05, 2017, 05:13 »
I'm amazed at some of the vector images that get accepted on both iStock and Shutterstock. Looks like somebody has taken one of their kids drawings off the refrigerator door, and turned it into a vector.

Sure, some people will be looking for that kind of style, but keywords such as 'kid's drawing' or 'child's painting' are worryingly absent.

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Pond5 / Re: From 20-30 sales a month to zero
« on: February 05, 2017, 01:07 »
I was getting about $250 to $375 a month up until around two months ago. Got $160 in December and $165 in January.

A bit too soon for some kind of worrying trend, but we'll see how this month and the next goes.

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