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General - Top Sites / Re: How is this possible ?
« on: March 20, 2017, 15:18 »
black is the new colorful

https://www.shutterstock.com/image-vector/colorful-abstract-background-572030401?src=03_bhvnrwEYlmQ9YihrgHg-1-14

haha

and then the similar images, all the same black gradient, unbelievable that this gets through without help on the inside, or it has to be a machine

which reviewer lets through a black image with the title colorful ?

I never thought I'd say this, but it makes you nostalgic for iStock's old "We're sorry, but we did not find this file suitable as stock" rejection :)

1852
iStockPhoto.com / Re: Become a contributor to Istock.
« on: March 19, 2017, 19:53 »
I don't recommend joining iStock - they used to be a great place but they've lost so much ground and pay such a pittance to independent contributors that it makes no sense to undercut other agencies that pay you better.

But did you try this page?

https://workwithus.istockphoto.com/en

Edited to add: read this thread about the royalties in the most recent statement. I had sticker shock when I saw 6.75 cents - even for a subscription royalty, that's pathetic. Truly, seriously pathetic. And unlike their previous larcenous royalty scheme, the rate (15%) will never increase.

http://www.microstockgroup.com/istockphoto-com/istock-february-2017-statement/

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General - Top Sites / Re: How is this possible ?
« on: March 19, 2017, 18:34 »
Those "Happy Runny Nose Day" on facet backgrounds are bad enough, but how about nearly 2700 gradients - no text no nothing!

https://www.shutterstock.com/g/PixelartGallery?searchterm=colorful+abstract+gradient&search_source=base_gallery&language=en&sort=newest&safe=true

Based on the image numbers, this rubbish was uploaded late January/early February. This is current policy or practice - I'd love to know if they intend this or if they're just asleep at the wheel.


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Image Sleuth / Re: Fiverr, the another gray market
« on: March 16, 2017, 19:37 »
If Fiverr cared about anything but getting their cut of the gross, the huge pile of gigs offering stolen stock images would have been long gone. They could police it but they choose not to and hide behind the policy saying "don't do that".

They could be a decent marketplace, but they've been told over and over about this problem and the best they can do is remove one or two gigs if pushed.

http://www.microstockgroup.com/image-sleuth/fiverr/

http://www.microstockgroup.com/image-sleuth/shutterstock-images-for-sale/

http://www.microstockgroup.com/istockphoto-com/fiverrgetty/


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General Stock Discussion / Re: Getty Just Screwed Me!
« on: March 16, 2017, 19:26 »
...I dont need lessons from disillusioned SOD-veterans.
This is my future that luckily not depend on your history. ;)

So you're making calls for action but are disinterested in finding out anything about what has been going on the last decade or so? You know what's said about people who are ignorant of history...

1856
Apparently the new plans are permanent as SS deemed the trial a success in bringing in new subscribers.

https://forums.submit.shutterstock.com/topic/90234-testing-new-pricing-plans-for-customers/?p=1601776

If the first half of March vs. February is any sort of guide, my dribs-and-drabs SODs, all of which I assume are some sort of subscription dressed up with a special name, are right now 3x the whole of February's SODs, but as that amounts to just under $13, I'm not going to get too excited -  that's one bad day's subscriptions, so woo yea... :)

1857
Photo Critique / Re: An Unique Stock Photos Website!
« on: March 16, 2017, 12:32 »
Your images are gorgeous. I looked around a little and I noticed that you have a tab on your front page that says "Free" but which shows images which are rights managed and not free. Perhaps you meant to have a different heading for that section?

I also thought I'd price one of the rights managed images and (a) the options don't really work well for web uses or editorial uses and (b) the prices seem very high when you compare with Getty. Your work is not run of the mill stuff, so it should command a premium, but if I wanted to use an image in an editorial on a web site for an international audience (all web use is inherently international) I'm looking at nearly $1,000 which I think means that most will look elsewhere. A small use on a corporate web site ends up being almost the same price as the cover of a retail book.  And for web users, how do you pick 1/8 of the ad, 1/4 of ad, etc?

Good luck with your site

1858
Image Sleuth / Re: Fiverr, the another gray market
« on: March 16, 2017, 08:20 »
Do a search here and you'll see how long this theft has been going on. For whatever reason (I suspect that it costs money to pursue these folks) SS hasn't done anything/much

1859
...Am I right that this is a new form of stock photography but geared towards things like Instagram?

Will this eventually supersede stock?


It's more like the internet-ization of assignment photography, largely because no one but the single client can use the images. There have been a number of attempts at this sort of thing - ages ago, iStock tried Buy Request, which flopped; various smartphone photography crowdsourced "assignment" outfits; ImageBrief.

http://www.microstockgroup.com/general-macrostock/new-mymarketplace-access-on-imagebrief/

Stock is about licensing to multiple buyers (even RM only has exclusives for a period of time). This site doesn't appear to be in that market but does appear to want to cost shift from the client to the photographer.

1860
I'd never heard of these guys until you posted. Looking at the site, I don't see anything much about prices and payment, but it does say that the client has exclusive rights to the images and that you get paid for "approved work"

The devil will be in the details

http://www.flashstock.com/contributors/

They curate the content - so does that involve them working with the client and allowing the client to change their mind? Do they have a series policy like Getty and some other agencies such that you can't sell as stock the "outtakes" the client doesn't want (I would expect them to)

And with the payment for approved work, do you get paid up front, regardless of whether the client drops the campaign or is it more like Alamy where you have a "sale" that shows up and the payment arrives in some number of months when the customer pays.

I'd ask a lot of questions before taking on something like this so you don't end up paying for a big shoot and models only to have no "approved work" and thus no payment

1861
General Stock Discussion / Re: Getty Just Screwed Me!
« on: March 15, 2017, 16:30 »
Why not sue in small claims? Seriously. Force them to either show up for court in your town or hand over the documentation. There are no attorneys in small claims, AFAIK.

The Getty contract has (or used to have) an arbitration clause. I think that precludes going to any court for any claim relating to money owed.

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General Stock Discussion / Re: Getty Just Screwed Me!
« on: March 14, 2017, 17:01 »
Oh I have, they won't budge. From what I saw on the first statement and what they sent me which is pages longer it does not match. I can
not prove it as they asked me too so I am out the money.

That really stinks.

Have you asked around to see if other contributors have had this happen as well for the November period? If a number of contributors have had the same "surprise" and band together to protest an insanely high level of refunds (something that doesn't fit with historical patterns in a major way), possibly it might make a difference.

The other type of pushback that might work is insisting that they provide you with records that they have taken offline (they have to have records internally for accounting and tax purposes. The fact that they've taken away your access to it doesn't mean the data isn't there any more). As long as you're careful not to libel them, suggesting that it's more than coincidence that the large returns number was paired with removal of records, rendering contributors helpless to dispute a hard to believe claim.

When have you ever - or any other contributor to this or another agency - had returns that were about 90% of the month's take? That just beggars belief, doesn't it?

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General Stock Discussion / Re: Getty Just Screwed Me!
« on: March 14, 2017, 11:12 »
Make a fuss. Tell them you believe they've made a mistake, and demand an itemized list of the returns with file numbers and dates of sale and refund. Worst case is that you're in the same situation you're in now.

1864
Alamy.com / Re: Current Cleared Balance ?
« on: March 12, 2017, 13:26 »
I have a sale that hasn't cleared from April 2016. I've contacted support twice about it. Bottom line is that it's a large customer who has only paid part of their total invoice and until the entire invoice is paid, Alamy doesn't clear payments to contributors.

This is the first time this sort of delay has happened to me at Alamy, and although I realize it's difficult for them too, it seems the contributor is the worst off - the deadbeat customer has and has used my image; Alamy has received some of the money they are owed; contributors have received zip.

At some point - possibly on the one year anniversary which is coming up soon - I may contact them to ask why they don't make a partial payment of royalties based on the customer's partial payment to them. It was a $150 license ($75 owed to me), so it's not an "oh never mind" amount. I know that's not their policy, but at some point it feels as if Alamy is penalizing me for their failure to collect from their customer.

And to the OP, look for the statements that mark amounts as uncleared (x) or cleared (o) in the balance of account

1865
Thats an arguement for not selling on Microstock at all which is fine if thats you want to do but I don't see why this is different from licencing JPEGs for 36c when you sell them somewhere else for $5.


Not the right analogy.

This is more like the time that Veer and Alamy partnered up behind contributor's backs to put Veer portfolios into an Alamy collection - where contributors who were already on Alamy would make more if they sold directly than had to take the reduced cut that Veer offered. Contributors squawked and Veer withdrew the collection.

The problem is not SS expanding their outlets for image licensing but in getting into new businesses with our content and forcing contributors who are already selling that content to compete with themselves (making less in the process).

1866
I had a quick look and thankfully didn't see any from my portfolio. The prices are much lower than other POD sites and as I already sell elsewhere, I would want an opt out from what has to be a lowball royalty given the prices they're selling the prints for.

Zero Talent, did they ask you about your work being included? I'm assuming not or you wouldn't have had to "find" 7 of yours.

It may be, if amazon is successful, that they'll drag prices down at other POD sites as a result, but I certainly wouldn't want to compete with myself by being forced into SS sales of this sort. Shades of Getty and the Google deal that they think they no longer have to ask about anything.

I hope someone who is included asks SS to let them opt out so we can see just how good SS still is at listening to contributors...

1867
Shutterstock.com / Re: Stolen pictures on shutterstock?
« on: March 11, 2017, 11:09 »
Maybe ESB is / was  a collaboration of multiple artists who either have split up or maybe even still working together that individually are uploading to other sites.

If that were the case, I don't see how you could legitimately upload identical images to different sites claiming different copyright owners. It would be great if the sites all provided upload dates with images to try and guess at a timeline, but they don't (and I don't want to try and reverse engineer dates from image numbers).

It also doesn't explain how on SS one model release, in their database with a single number, is used in two different portfolios. Possibly Shutterstock has some special deals for prolific contributors that we know nothing about, but with the interface we get to use, I couldn't do that with a collaborator if I wanted to.

At any rate, SS has now been informed and they can do something or not as they see fit. None of the images are mine or anyone I know, so there's no DMCA recourse unless someone knows a contributor to contact whose images are included somewhere.

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Shutterstock.com / Re: Stolen pictures on shutterstock?
« on: March 10, 2017, 23:18 »
I contacted Shutterstock and pointed them to this thread for details - it's complicated! - and asked them to please investigate

1869
Shutterstock.com / Re: Stolen pictures on shutterstock?
« on: March 10, 2017, 21:19 »
Again, uncanny identical clouds. Iakov clearly added that table and coffee cup in the foreground.

Iakov Kalinin seems to be the thief, unless we are dealing with the same author and two ports.

I think it has to be ESB Pro who is ripping off multiple other artists. I can find the other people - Dean Drobot and Iakov Kalinin etc. on other sites, but not ESB Professional. Also, I found one of ESB best sellers on SS is in Iakov Kalinin's portfolio on 123rf but uncropped there (if you look at the enlarged preview you can see the images are identical except for the extra info that's in the 123rf upload by Iakov Kalinin

https://www.123rf.com/photo_51111249_westminster-bridge-at-sunset-london-uk.html?&vti=mnz407sfa2a8wgt20m
https://www.shutterstock.com/image-photo/westminster-bridge-sunset-london-uk-362072633

You also see on 123rf one of Dean Drobot's photos in his own portfolio which ESB has on Shutterstock as his

https://www.123rf.com/photo_49774464_funny-playful-young-woman-in-checkered-shirt-holding-halves-of-citrus-fruits-against-her-eyes-and-ma.html?&vti=lgf4ayntll6rvfr313
https://www.shutterstock.com/image-photo/funny-playful-young-woman-checkered-shirt-357710990

Add to that the DT porfolio with the same image and a portfolio that matches the others in content (first name is different)

https://www.dreamstime.com/stock-photo-funny-playful-woman-holding-halves-citrus-fruits-against-eyes-young-checkered-shirt-her-making-duck-face-over-yellow-image64153295

Same thing with the Sergey Nivens images that ESB has copies of. You can find those on Dreamstime (for Sergey Khakimullin) but nothing for ESB professional anywhere else (that I can find)

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Shutterstock.com / Re: Stolen pictures on shutterstock?
« on: March 10, 2017, 20:12 »
Actually sounds like collusion.

If it is, then Shutterstock knows about and enables it in some way. Identical model release numbers isn't something a contributor could do on their own.

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Shutterstock.com / Re: Stolen pictures on shutterstock?
« on: March 10, 2017, 18:11 »
Same shared model release number with different photos in ESB Professional and Dean Drobot. Model number 17517719 shows up in both their ports 4,343 times

https://www.shutterstock.com/image-photo/portrait-young-amazed-woman-showing-blank-357711818

https://www.shutterstock.com/image-photo/happy-attractive-young-woman-plaid-shirt-357711977

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Shutterstock.com / Re: Stolen pictures on shutterstock?
« on: March 10, 2017, 17:45 »
This is so weird, I'm not sure it can be right - I'm wondering if SS's database is totally and utterly corrupted. What I think I see is that two different contributors, ESB Professional and Sergey Nivens have the same images (with different image numbers) in their portfolios and are using the same model release for both.

When you do a "Same model" search, the URL shows a number for that model release. If you look at the case I posted above, you'll see the the vectorfusionart copies have different model release numbers.

But take a look at these two photos which are identical in model and doors, but with different skies/mountains behind them

ESB Professional (earlier image number):

https://www.shutterstock.com/image-photo/businessman-standing-front-opened-doors-making-340334069

Sergey Nivens (newer image number):

https://www.shutterstock.com/image-photo/open-new-doors-opportunities-394845343

Do a same model search for each and you get the same model release number for both

https://www.shutterstock.com/search?models=16512749&context_photo=340334069

https://www.shutterstock.com/search?models=16512749&context_photo=394845343

Both sets of results say 5,507 images use that release. If that wasn't weird enough, click on any of the images in the ESB Professional "same model" search and the image you get is one of Sergey Nivens!

Take this image from ESB Professional - click on any one of the "same model" thumbs shown on this page and you are taken to images in racom's portfolio. This woman's model release number is 14049070 for both contributors

https://www.shutterstock.com/image-photo/nerdy-scholastic-young-woman-wearing-geeky-318060599

https://www.shutterstock.com/image-photo/young-woman-short-red-hair-white-583304458

I'm truly stumped for an explanation. Even if someone had made a copy of a model release it would have a different number in SS's database, but these have the same number...

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Shutterstock.com / Re: Stolen pictures on shutterstock?
« on: March 10, 2017, 17:13 »
how do they both get the model releases?

Someone's making sh*t up?

Take a look at the "same model" search for the two workout pictures (that doesn't show on the mobile site, but does on the desktop version). The ESB professional port has 63 "plain" photos and the vectorfusionart port has Photoshopped versions of the same images

https://www.shutterstock.com/search?models=20154121,20154124,20154112,20154106,20154094,20153914&context_photo=491399815
https://www.shutterstock.com/search?models=21124357,21124354,21124345,21124336,21124333&context_photo=565414027

If you look at the image numbers, ESB's are the earlier ones

https://www.shutterstock.com/image-photo/portrait-aggressive-shirtless-boxer-standing-gym-491395519
https://www.shutterstock.com/image-photo/portrait-aggressive-shirtless-boxer-fitness-gym-565426588


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Shutterstock.com / Re: Stolen pictures on shutterstock?
« on: March 10, 2017, 13:45 »
But look at the image numbers - ESB professional is 225,089,575 and Iakov Kalinin is 223,808,896. Not sure how you steal and get an *earlier* image number. And in ESB pro's port is an even earlier number of the same scene, 220,682,149

Plus if you look at ESB profession and pathdoc's portfolios there are other images where ESB professional has only one or two and the other artist a whole series

https://www.shutterstock.com/g/ESB+Professional?searchterm=lightbulb&search_source=base_gallery&language=en&sort=popular&safe=true
https://www.shutterstock.com/g/pathdoc?searchterm=light+bulb&search_source=base_gallery&language=en&sort=popular&safe=true

and

https://www.shutterstock.com/g/ESB+Professional?searchterm=money&search_source=base_gallery&language=en&sort=popular&safe=true
https://www.shutterstock.com/g/pathdoc?searchterm=money&search_source=base_gallery&language=en&sort=popular&safe=true

But then you have this almost identical pair and ESB Professional is the lower number - I did a quick look but couldn't find a common source (I wondered if they were both taking images from another person and adding their own lens flare)

https://www.shutterstock.com/image-photo/people-bokeh-street-london-223809385
https://www.shutterstock.com/image-photo/people-bokeh-street-london-221639851

If it's one person with multiple portfolios, that's against SS rules I think, unless they have permission

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