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I think Jo Ann covered it pretty well. Read the thread.

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I'm not sure what your point is in this thread. Every member has access to all the content...that's a copy statement about SS vs. iS, where you need to pay more to get access to exclusive content. It has nothing to do with how many sub dls you get per day.

Perhaps you'd really like to get people riled up against SS so they don't notice iS has lowered prices again, but you're grasping at straws. There's no news here. It's an offer/copy test.

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New facebook ad from SS, unfortunately when you click through you get a 404 error "Doh!".  I guess they'll get that sorted out soon.  It will be interesting to see if the pricing has changed now that they say "we offer the lowest price per image in the entire industry."
"New Flexible Plans. No daily download limits!"
http://www.shutterstock.com/pclp?id=FBUSSAVE

Does that link lead to the offer you're talking about?  If so, it's still in test. I see the 25-per-day pricing.

1854
Nice job! Interesting to see how someone else works. Some suggestions from someone who creates commercials for a living:

Move the montage of your icons and your website URL from the end to the beginning. End with your website URL right after the tutorial is over. I thought the video had ended there until I looked at the time bar. You might want to incorporate a screenshot of your site.

More explanation, less music. For example, why radial gradients? (3d, light source, etc.) why the colors you chose? Any filler info about good icon design? (simplicity, strong shapes, etc.)

Turn the music down. It gets really loud when you stop talking. Is that because it's free thru YouTube so you can't control volume? If so, you may want to license one piece of stock music to use in all videos so you have volume control.

At the end, Suggest people visit your site for more icon design and to license your icons!

Best of luck...I hope this brings a lot of traffic.

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I see this for what it is...a copy test. I've been doing A/B splits for decades. You have a control and you regularly test against it to see if you can get a better ROI on your advertising budget. If this brings in more customers but they make too many downloads, results are bad. If it brings in more customers and they act the same way as the average customer, great. Then you roll it out. It's a very considered way to grow business.

As iStock scrambles to try to catch up, they copy what they think works for SS without copying the thoughtfulness or methodology behind the decisions SS makes.

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Shutterstock.com / Re: Is Shutterstock ending 25 a day subs?
« on: March 15, 2015, 16:06 »
Can I just point out how disingenuous the title of this thread is? If you're first reading it you might think SS is ending subs. All they're doing is lifting the 25-per-day-limit, but keeping the monthly limit, the pricing, everything else the same. In other words, it's just a marketing tactic to attract new customers. They're not lowering prices, they're not changing what we get paid, they're not ending anything, they're not giving any more content to customers. (In fact, this might just be a test.)
I think once customers know that some people are getting 750/month they will ask for that rather than the 25/day model.  It seems that once they start this they probably will have to do it for everyone.  How would you feel getting the worse subscription plan while other people are paying the same for the better one?

Seriously? It's the same subscription plan. You get 750/month either way. You're reeeeeeally stretching here.

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Shutterstock.com / Re: Is Shutterstock ending 25 a day subs?
« on: March 15, 2015, 14:22 »
Can I just point out how disingenuous the title of this thread is? If you're first reading it you might think SS is ending subs. All they're doing is lifting the 25-per-day-limit, but keeping the monthly limit, the pricing, everything else the same. In other words, it's just a marketing tactic to attract new customers. They're not lowering prices, they're not changing what we get paid, they're not ending anything, they're not giving any more content to customers. (In fact, this might just be a test.)

On the other hand, it looks to me like iS HAS lowered credit pricing. And if you're not sure whether iStock is doing poorly, here's a Bloomberg interview posted by jjneff in the iStock forums:

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/videos/2015-03-02/why-the-blurry-outlook-for-getty-images-

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Shutterstock.com / Re: Is Shutterstock ending 25 a day subs?
« on: March 15, 2015, 12:39 »
The offer could very well still be in testing if not everyone's seeing it. Though if people are tweeting about it, the cat's halfway out of the bag.

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Shutterstock.com / Re: Is Shutterstock ending 25 a day subs?
« on: March 15, 2015, 12:13 »
I'm sure their test showed this offer was more attractive and would get more people to sign up. The number of DLs per month has stayed the same.
Yes I'm sure it's more attractive because customers will download more.  I doubt you know what downloads per customer are for these new subscriptions since they just started.  Over the next few months, if it is rolled out to most customers then I would expect downloads to go up.  I don't think you will see anything on the first few days it's rolled out to a small percentage of customers.

Well, I hope you're right and customers will make more DLs, but I doubt it. It seems to me SS would lose money that way, since they pay us a flat rate for subs. And I doubt they'd roll out something that didn't make them more money.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: Did iStock just lower credit prices?
« on: March 15, 2015, 11:59 »
Big difference between SS and iS: When iS offers discounts you make less, but when SS offers discounts they still pay you the same amount.
That's not true.  When SS offers a discount on enterprise sales those discounts "flow" to the contributor as has been said before.  You get a percentage of what the customer paid for those sales.  Subs pay a set rate but that is the same at iStock too.  I'm assuming discounts to image packs also "flow" to the contributor but if you have something specific that says those discounts don't then please do post a link to that.

I see no difference whatsoever in the amount I make. Subs still earn me exactly the same amount, as do ODDs, EDs and SODs. Those pay a flat rate. On iS any discount has a direct impact on my credit sales, which are comparable to ODDs on SS (though much less since they dropped the prices of non-exclusive vectors). iS subs pay less too. iS doesn't offer anything comparable to EDs and SODs, as far as I know.

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Shutterstock.com / Re: Is Shutterstock ending 25 a day subs?
« on: March 15, 2015, 11:50 »
Shutterstock tests their offers in an A/B split before extending them to everyone. I'm sure their test showed this offer was more attractive and would get more people to sign up. The number of DLs per month has stayed the same. It sounds more exciting to have no daily limits, but what difference does it make, other than that verbiage leading to better ROI in customer acquisition? The goal here is more market share, would be my guess.

(This is in direct opposition to iS, who just tosses stuff against the wall hoping something will stick.)

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: Did iStock just lower credit prices?
« on: March 15, 2015, 11:15 »
Shutterstock hasn't lowered their prices. Instead they're going after the midstock market and charging higher prices for big customers.
I've seen Shutterstock offering a lot of discounts in the past couple months.  20% off image packs or subscriptions and now it appears they are offering a monthly subscription instead of a daily one.   I think it's great if you are getting some higher priced sales, it seems from most of the comments I've seen on here that those are rare and may be getting rarer.  If yours are up then great.  One off sales aren't going to move the market much though, it's the very low average price that is doing it.

Big difference between SS and iS: When iS offers discounts you make less, but when SS offers discounts they still pay you the same amount. My earnings per image at SS surpassed iS last year, and the disparity keeps getting larger. I'm not sure what you consider "big sales," but I get dozens of non-sub sales on SS daily. And I make about 40% more for a sub sale at SS than at iS. SS is setting higher pricing but still taking market share from iS and Getty. I get no "really big" sales from iS at all, but I do at SS every so often. Just the facts. I'd love it if iS did something right.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: Did iStock just lower credit prices?
« on: March 15, 2015, 10:20 »
Shutterstock hasn't lowered their prices. Instead they're going after the midstock market and charging higher prices for big customers. iStock is getting increasingly desperate and basically trying anything at this point. Lowering prices a few months ago made things worse, so in true iS fashion they're lowering them again, which REALLY won't work.

The difference between my earnings at SS and iS was three to one last year and five to one this year. Earnings at SS have increased for me over the past year, and decreased at iS.

I'm not sure what the Fotolia deal will bring. But Adobe markets to big customers as well, so I'd expect them to raise prices, because many of their customers are used to paying big bucks for images. But that's just an educated guess on my part.

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Shutterstock.com / Re: SS Single & Other Downloads?
« on: March 14, 2015, 10:51 »
SS has agreements with large customersad agencies, for examplewhere they pay hundreds of dollars for images. I'm not exactly sure what comes wrapped up with it...additional legal assurances? Extended use? But they pay much more than the average buyer. It does not mean your image will necessarily be used for sensitive purposes...more likely it will be used in an ad campaign or something like that.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: Did iStock just lower credit prices?
« on: March 14, 2015, 09:15 »
Yup. We absolutely pay tens of thousands for images. Last ad we shot, we paid the photographer about $35,000, if I remember correctly. That was only two years ago. I'm sure that ad agency is still paying that amount for their shoots.

And music rights? Millions.

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Shutterstock.com / Re: unique phrases - keywords question
« on: March 14, 2015, 07:23 »
That's an ooooold article. Recently SS began splitting up phrases into individual keywords, so I don't think that function works any more.

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iStockPhoto.com / Did iStock just lower credit prices?
« on: March 14, 2015, 06:20 »
Now when I sign in I see a red-bannered offer to buy credits for $12 each or 3 for $33. Weren't the new lower credit prices on par with Shutterstock before...about $14.50 each as an entry point?

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If you are getting rejections the best thing to do is figure out how to improve.  The reviewers are almost certainly correct in their rejections, maybe the real reason is that the photos are not good so they pick some other reason from the list.  Shutterstock doesn't have a "your image is no good" rejection do they, if you're getting focus rejections and you're sure they are actually in focus then that's probably the reason ( how many many times have people said their images were in focus or noise free but when zoomed into 100% they obviously aren't?).  Make better images and you won't have problems, focus on improving rather than complaining and conspiracies.

Explain my rejections for "poor rasterizeration," while the same jpgs are offered for sale at SS as an option to the vector file. And then after emailing about them I'm told to resubmit because the reviewer was mistaken.

I'm not sure what's going on...whether the reviewers really are making mistakes, or whether this is Shutterstock's way of holding back the huge tide of incoming images.
I doubt I could help with that, I don't know much about raster illustrations.  Obviously there could be some mistakes or they could have higher standards for rasters than vectors.  If they already are accepted as vectors (and by extension rasters) then why would you be resubmitting the exact same files?

SS allows you to sell both vectors and rasters as separate images. I have a bunch of images that sell well in both formats. Recently they introduced the option to purchase a jpg if you're looking at the vector image. But they still accept both and buyers still look for and buy both. Perhaps certain buyers are unable to handle vectors and have gotten used to looking for raster illustrations only, so they don't bother to click on the vector files.

So in my case SS accepts the exact same jpg to sell as an option on the vector page that they reject for sale on its own. And of course, there's nothing wrong with the jpg, because when I email them I'm told it's a mistake and I should resubmit, which is the whole point of this thread.

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If you are getting rejections the best thing to do is figure out how to improve.  The reviewers are almost certainly correct in their rejections, maybe the real reason is that the photos are not good so they pick some other reason from the list.  Shutterstock doesn't have a "your image is no good" rejection do they, if you're getting focus rejections and you're sure they are actually in focus then that's probably the reason ( how many many times have people said their images were in focus or noise free but when zoomed into 100% they obviously aren't?).  Make better images and you won't have problems, focus on improving rather than complaining and conspiracies.

Explain my rejections for "poor rasterizeration," while the same jpgs are offered for sale at SS as an option to the vector file. And then after emailing about them I'm told to resubmit because the reviewer was mistaken.

I'm not sure what's going on...whether the reviewers really are making mistakes, or whether this is Shutterstock's way of holding back the huge tide of incoming images.

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Just as it's difficult to know what will sell, it's difficult to decide if microstock is worth it. If you live in a developing country or you're really young, making minimum wage may not seem bad. If you're older, live in a more expensive economy, and have more experience, you'll expect to be paid a lot more, and the effort to try to replace that level of income might be too much. If you're retired and have pension/social security/ investments to support you, making a little extra spending money doing something fun like taking pictures or drawing might seem delightful.

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I've bought a few images from there, so I get their emails all the time now. Kind of sad to see them giving away tons of free stuff every week, and huge image packs offered for next to nothing. People offering 500 icons for five bucks when each could be sold separately at SS, for example. I'm afraid from a buyer POV it is a race to the bottom.

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For at least a week now. Dozens of emails.

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General Stock Discussion / Re: Slavery
« on: March 12, 2015, 09:42 »
I'd like a raise from iStock too. A 50% raise from them would just bring them into line with Shutterstock. That's sad.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: Feb 28 sales dearth
« on: March 11, 2015, 08:29 »
I have some sales.

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