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iStockPhoto.com / Re: expiration date on model release?
« on: November 19, 2009, 22:06 »
This would be convenient.  I shoot my husband and daughter all the time.


In that case, it's very simple. Fill in all info (photog, model, witness, locations) in the form, just leaving date and signature spaces blank. As photog, you can even pre-sign all printed forms. After every shoot day, just let model and witness sign and fill in date, then shoot the release form and save it in the folder of the shoot's pictures. No mix-up possible then when uploading to iStock, especially if the date is part of the file name (as the Canon D5 does automatically).

For those that don't have a cam that names the files with the date+sequence number (e.g. DSCxxxx), there is a very nifty free program Advanced Renamer that can do all this and even autosequence the files.

1927
iStockPhoto.com / Re: expiration date on model release?
« on: November 19, 2009, 21:51 »
Print the model release with EVERYTHING filled in, except for the signatures.  Then photoshop in new dates using the same font.

Technically speaking, that's forgery IMHO. In case of litigation, only the paper form counts.

1928
while at the same time assuming the worst about depositfiles without any concrete evidence.

I would never make such a strong post without an overabundance of evidence on the net that depositfiles hosts many illegal files, totally in the open and shamelessly. They even don't change the file names or hide the links from Google like many of the Rapidshare "sharers" do. Just click the Google links I gave, although I suspect many will vanish soon.

1929
On the other hand. Regardless of who these DepositAnything guys are this is rude how you talk about the "Ruskies". Not that I am one of them it just shocks my ear.

Yes I realized that too late and it has been edited out. In my part(s) of the world it's used as a friendly term in common and joking conversations, but that might be different in other parts. Given the international and formal context of this forum, it was wrong to use this kind of slang language. I'm sorry for it and I hope it wouldn't weaken my facts.

1930
I didn't follow a lot of what FD is talking about and do not condone all the Name-Calling

I didn't call names. I drew conclusions based on some research. If people can't check links and see the obvious, I rest my case. Sure, partypoker might a legit site, but is Heroturko?

Depositphotos < Depositfiles < stolen photo hosting. It's all over the net. Just click. If you trust an office in tax heaven Cyprus and a virtual office in Florida and a clear connection to an illegal file hoster, I should rest my case.

Let's see what depositfiles.com is "sharing" from ShutterStock to move on. Check this link (Google: shutterstock link:depositfiles.com).
Let's just take one, download4design. But there are sites a galore, "sharing" your SS files for nada, zero, nothing.

Depositfiles = depositphotos, and they can sue me if it's not true.  ;D

And if you still don't believe me, repeat a similar search for Dreamtime. I'm currently downloading some "shared" HQ Dreamstime files from depositfiles.com. Google is yer enemy, Ruskies.  ;D
Subs are a wonderful thing.

1931
I will not explain the situation concerning the addresses of our offices and official representations any longer. This is silly.

It's not. You ask people to upload all their personal data plus a passport copy via an insecure http protocol and you keep hidden yourself behind smoke screens and virtual offices.  :)
We have nothing to be ashamed of. We have nothing to confess. And there is no one we should make excuses to. [...] From this moment all paranoid requests will be ignored by us.

Paranoid? your network seems to be a breed of the (in)famous HeroTurko. I did some little research on your network and this is what I came up with.

1 - There is a clear link between depositphotos.com and depositfiles.com.
Not only the name prefix "deposit", but also the less-known registrar Moniker.com, and especially the "offices" in offshore tax and IP heaven Cyprus  where depositphotos.com has "offices" (quote: We also have offices in Russia, Ukraine, London, Cyprus), where the depositphotos.com server is located (Cubestat, Host IP: 78.140.135.60 Site Hosted in: Cyprus) and where the owner of depositfiles.com, Bemrose Tradeinvest LTD  (according to Cubestat: Host IP: 88.85.74.81, Site Hosted in: Cyprus, Owner: BemroseTradeinvestLTD) 54, Eleftherias st Parekklissia Limassol Limassol 4520 Cyprus is located.

2 - Let's now examine where most of the traffic comes from, according to Alexa, on depositfiles.com and on depositphotos.com.
Depositphotos: #  32.3% Russia, # 28.6% Belarus, # 8.5% Ukraine. Not exactly buyer's countries.
Depositfiles: Rank: #  17! in Russia, rank # 20 in Kazakhstan, rank # 24 in Belarus, rank # 27 Ukraine.

3 - So let's have a close look at depositfiles.com, probably the financier (you claimed to have deep pockets) and the programming resource of depositphotos.com.
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According to robtex.com:
www.depositfiles.com ("BemroseTradeinvestLTD") has eight IP numbers , which are the same as for depositfiles.com. Some of them are on the same IP network. [...] www.depositfiles.com is ranked #143 world wide as depositfiles.com Child safety of this site is poor. Trustworthiness, vendor reliability and privacy is unsatisfactory.

Similar: ba-k.com, rom-news.org, letitbit.net, heroturko.com, partypoker.com, easy-share.com, gamebookers.com, sparkstudios.com

4 - Now let's do this interesting Google search: stock photos link:depositfiles.com.
My oh my, loads of links from illegal photo download sites to depositfiles.com. The 3 first:
- Filestube (stolen business photos).
- Funrapid (stolen Amazing Girls photos)
- Art4share.net - It's nice to "share" other people's work, hey?

But let's just have a look at some "shared" Business Ladies at tinydl.com, guys. All with links on depositfiles.com:
http://depositfiles.com/files/z84m712gm
http://depositfiles.com/files/2lnlap8f5

5 - I have downloaded one set as proof: 62MB, 15 stock photos - the 11-th one, business-lady(19) 4800x3504px, downsized by me to 1024 here, and available on Photosearch here for 499$ here at high resolution.

RT was right from the start.

edit: Slight edit by admin to remove racial commentary and borderline libelous statements.

1932
One of their group of Russian Americans is Jaroslav74 (Shaker Heihts, United States, presumably Shaker Heights, OH) on DT. Great portfolio! But they'd better come out who really runs the shop and from where, since DT otherwise might ban this contributor. It happened before that DT banned someone that got involved in starting a competing site.

The English spelling/grammar is not that important for contributors but it is for prospective buyers in a saturated market. They might just get a bad impression and move on. If DP can find/pay virtual offices, it wouldn't be too difficult to find a freelance native American English copywriter.

It starts with the front page: "Buy photos easy" is not correct English; it should read: "Buy photos easily".
Two examples of the TOS:
Abuse, threaten, hunt down, affect a goodwill and image or any other any violate data protection rights of the third persons or other users of the Site.
The Site is operated, managed and controlled by DepositPhotos from the Florida, USA.

In general, the site looks great and very well programmed.

About security: their registration page is not https but simply http. Since I'm on public WIFI by antenna in a SE Asian city full of lurkers and hackers, I'm not going to send my personal data over a leaky line by the insecure http protocol.

Good luck!

1933
Adobe Stock / Re: FT rank
« on: November 18, 2009, 09:49 »
Just checked and my 7 days rank went down to 9940, although I had 4 sales on Nov 17. The ELs I get are just 6$ or 4 euro. I never understood FT really, and I have no time to find out. They're on my cancel list soon.
I just can't find out their payout request page. Probably it's hidden well. Anybody knows where to look?

1934
Please feel free to ask any questions
Thanks for the reply. You might consider leaving the passport copy out of the registration requirements, and delay it till the first payout. People might be worried about identity theft with unproven sites.

1935
DepositPhotos is the internets highest-paying stock Image website youll find!

So what is it? Chinglish, Hinglish, Spanglish, Swinglish or Runglish?  It's certainly not Floridian. ;)
From the contributor's agreement:
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After the registration you need to pass a formal examination test, during which you should upload 5 best photographs and a scan copy of the passport or other document proving your identity.

No way if they themselves hide behind a mailbox. A passport copy is OK when requesting a first payout, not while signing up to a new site.
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The examination mark is an important parameter having influence on a inspector's loyalty to your photographs. If you are already working with other photo sites, we recommend you provide links to your portfolios. All these parameters long professional experience, large portfolio influence inspectors' loyalty.

It's certainly the first site where inspectors are loyal to the contributors.

1936
Registrant [2083484]:
        DepositPhotos Inc. DepositPhotos Inc.
        DepositPhotos Inc.
        110 E. Broward Blvd. Suite 1700
        Fort Lauderdale
        FLORIDA
        33301
        US

That suite 1700 must be huge. Loads of businesses have their "operations" center there. Look here, at Google.
"Results 1 - 10 of about 16,800 for 110 E. Broward Blvd. Suite 1700 Fort Lauderdale".
It's obviously a mailbox address with shared telephone/secretarial services to give operations anywhere in the US or in the world a legitimate US business address and contact point.

On the other hand, the site is programmed very well, the watermarks on the thumbs are pleasing and not too obvious, and I didn't see any bad English. The phrases on the contributor page are unique for them on Google so they don't seem to be "borrowed".
Judging from the overabundance of Russian locations on the "architecture" page, my bet is that the site was started by a group of Russian photographers with a clever approach, but it would be more reassuring if they gave their real info.

Update: I sent them a site mail inviting them to intervene in this thread to clarify some of the questions.

1937
iStockPhoto.com / Re: How much do you like Istockphoto?
« on: November 16, 2009, 20:52 »
November, 2009: $8.27 royalties
I only sell 2-5 years old crap there.
Although I have a good acceptance ratio on my newest images, they simply don't sell. They fall right into oblivion in the search engine after acceptance. So for November, even StockXpert made me more.
Istock is great, but we obviously don't match.

1938
Lighting / Re: PocketWizards
« on: November 16, 2009, 01:08 »
What's the difference between the pocketwizard and the Cactus Wireless Flash Trigger Set V4? They work fine for me on Canon cam/580 and Sigma strobes and Linkstar softboxes, for a fraction of the price.

1939
Yaymicro / Re: Yaymicro Third Party Sales
« on: November 13, 2009, 11:20 »
I was never notified of any third party sales.

1940
StockXpert.com / Re: Bad things about to happen ...
« on: November 13, 2009, 05:52 »
I am not using a bookmark.  I tried firefox, opera and IE typing in www.photos.com in the address bar and they all re-direct me to http://ww2.photos.com/en/legacy/ and I get re-directed there from the new photos.com link on that page.


The redirect is saved in your cookies. The first time it works.

1941
If you dig into the JPG compression algorithm, you will see that the information reduction is done by combining slightly different adjacent pixels into monochrome squares > 1px. When there is a lot of noisy info in the image, like in trees or grass, the size reduction is much smallerr than with clouds or scenes with many slow gradients, like cars.

One of the JPG quality parameters is the size of the squares.

It follows that you can see a clear effect in slow gradients like skies and clouds (where you can easily see the JPG square artifacts in medium-blue clouds) and on high-contrast luminance edges like dark suits on an overwhite. JPG is bad handling graphics and hence the edges on overwhites, which will show up with more jitter around the edge and into the white area near the border.
This can cause problems for a designer-buyer that wants to re-extract the object from the white.

Conclusion: q12 for overwhites and rasterized graphics, q10 for the rest.

1942
Hail Pixelbitch for the Getty release links. I downloaded the English version (in PDF), and converted it to Word by this free online program (I tried a few but this is the best, preserving the shapes).

I made a few unimportant changes to the layout and the fonts
- ("if applicable") was too small to be photocopied well;
- more lines for the shoot description;
- one extra line in front of the signature to provide more space (some people have huge signatures);
- added "in print" in front of Parent name, like with the other names.

I replaced country of jurisdiction by (...), omitting the location of the iStock/Getty offices. This should make the form generic. If you fill in your own name and country of jurisdiction in the document, it's ready to go, I think, for all possible stock sites. I'll use this single form from now on for everybody and for every 1-2 shoot days.

Here is the doc file. (done in Office 2007, saved for Word 1997-2003 - looks bad in Office 2000).

1943
Dreamstime.com / Re: RPD and income in the last 6 months
« on: November 11, 2009, 05:03 »


Nov 08  $1.24
Dec 08  $0.91
Jan 09   $1.28
Feb 09   $1.05
Mar 09   $1.39
Apr 09  $1.67 (EL)
May 09  $1.23
Jun 09   $1.18
Jul 09    $0.94
Aug 09  $1.39 (EL)
Sep 09  $1.12
Oct 09   $1.03
Nov 09   $0.83
Average $1.20 (> avg)

1944
General Stock Discussion / Re: cushystock
« on: November 11, 2009, 04:29 »
I believe that someone else mentioned a program where someone could get Cushystock for free by agreeing to post messages on forums, saying how much they liked it. Lets call it an endorsement program, instead of spam. ;)

I would eagerly read an endorsement by a known forum member. But when it quacks like spam, looks like spam, walks like spam, and swims like spam (brand new "member", first post), it's err... spam. Sorry. My personal policy is never to look into any product or service that reached me by spam.

1945
General Stock Discussion / Re: cushystock
« on: November 10, 2009, 19:26 »
I have been using cushystock upload utility for some time and I am very pleased with the results.

First post and advertising a product. :D
Are you, apart from a successful microstocker with very credible links, also a Nigerian banker by any chance?

1946
Panthermedia.net / Re: Panther Media Upload / Contributor Back End
« on: November 10, 2009, 01:15 »
Introduction of subs model that allows e.g. 750 maximum size downloads within one month (no daily limit, a monthly limit!) for a full 199?

750 / 199 x 0.3(%) = 8 eurocent per image? No thanks.

1947
Pixmac / Re: So, what's the deal with pixmac?
« on: November 09, 2009, 22:10 »
Things may be allright for you FD, but it doesn't mean things are allright for everyone. There are obvious problems.

Well I didn't mean to say that. I checked my port and all seemed OK. That only means it's not a general problem, like the dog ate their database. I guess you should contact support about the mixup, since you have clear evidence, and you're not alone apparently.

I will never upload to pixmac even if they pay me $10 per image upload. Not until they become legit at least.

Well the history of Pixmac is well known. In the begin they had this sales guarantee of 500$ if you locked in your images for 2 years, then there was the sweepstakes phase. Considering all this and the fact that no microstock agency really made it after 2005 (market taken) I didn't even bother to upload my FT rejects and I won't. I hope they thrive with their celebrity stock (which might be a good idea) and as affiliate of FT.

1948
The latest Getty Images release looks to be adapted from the iStock one...basically the same wording but without the logo...I use it for everything and it's accepted by all whether for RM, RF or micro.

Thanks. I just will have to find the link now to that release. I guess this means the end of all our "generic" model releases since iStock asks for birth day too and on mine it won't fit any more. If it's accepted everywhere, we can just use that one with specific Getty text omitted.

1949
Adobe Stock / Re: I am so sick of Fotolia rejects..
« on: November 09, 2009, 20:45 »
I don't even know how to find the rejects. It's a French site but programmed like an English garden with German mazes and Italian trompe l'oeils.  ::)

Submitted files     778
Selected files    484 (0% of exclusive files)

1950
Adobe Stock / Re: FT rank
« on: November 09, 2009, 20:32 »
I must be doing totally wrong if I see the sales here and the ranks.

Overall rank  4360
7 days rank   4800
Sold files        531

But of course I just started there in 2005 (losing all earnings and photos by a glitch on their side back in 2006)  ;D

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