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Messages - Jo Ann Snover

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1976
Lots of times - searches, as mentioned above (I keep a folder with screen grabs as a sort of digital tearsheet).

Also, I've run into my images - in an airport when two images from a previous trip were wrapped around posts in the departure lounge. A relative living in another city recognized a bus wrap use (it was his lake house in my photograph) and sent me an iPhone picture. He also got some advertising in the (snail) mail from a local realtor including a number of my photos. Another relative saw my picture (it was of me) in a magazine in a waiting room. A photographer in another city noticed one of my pictures in a local paper and sent me a copy. A few times the designer has sent me a copy (or in the iStock old days, it showed up in the designer's showcase).

I've even seen my house in a Facebook ad (doing one of those "That house looks awfully familiar...") :)

1977
Shutterstock.com / Re: Info
« on: November 29, 2016, 12:50 »
In addition to seconding the advice about adding hard to remove text over a photograph (it's fine to do "YOUR TEXT HERE" on solid colors or with vectors), you need to check your keywords.

It appears you have done copy/paste on keywords - so you have an isolated coffee cup with shop, table, pub, cupboard, etc.  - and with a shot titled "Breakfast" you don't have breakfast in the keywords (not that a pie looks like breakfast, but that's a separate issue). You have pictures of drinks with food in the keywords...without detailing every error, get the approach to keywords right while you're just starting. Get all the applicable keywords for everything you can see in the image and don't spam by putting in things like pub or table for isolated food/drink items.

You also have several images with a little bit cut off at the bottom (or the shadow is cut off). That makes it much harder for a designer to use unless they're planning to crop it significantly anyway.


And take the lighting comments to heart - you can keep your preferred muted style but still light the images well.

Good luck

1978
General Stock Discussion / Re: Strange Email about My Image
« on: November 29, 2016, 12:38 »
The strange thing is, when I login to FAA I don't see the message but it was from "[email protected]"

I will definitely contact FAA.

That's the way contacts from FAA customers come through - I've had several of those. The first few lines should be "From: [name] and their e-mail address". The FAA user doesn't get your e-mail unless you reply to them.

If you don't have a throwaway e-mail account to use when replying to questionable things of this sort, you might want to get one for the future.

1979
Photo Critique / Re: Do you think these photos should sell?
« on: November 28, 2016, 23:02 »
On the keywording, the few I checked didn't have information about the specific place. One, for example, just said Europe in the keywords, another had Pacific Northwest in the title, but no place information in the keywords. If you have photos of locations, you need to be specific about where so prospective buyers can find them.

The other thing is how in demand a location is - some of yours are lovely pictures but I'm guessing are not high volume locations. The feet in the back of a car conveys a message/story and for that, specific place isn't important. More of that sort of thing - story telling versus just location - might also help sales.

1980
iStockPhoto.com / Re: Copyright Infringement by "AlexeyWork"
« on: November 28, 2016, 10:30 »
It beggars belief that agencies still do no checking using a google image search (at the very least) on newly uploaded content. I used Google image search on Tyler's airplane picture (from the iStock pirate's version) and the second of the visually similar images takes me to Tyler's Dreamstime upload of that image.

It takes virtually no work to check for an already uploaded image, and once you've found content from more than one other artist, you can close the account - perhaps you wait until you find three other artists' work just to be on the safe side :)

Bottom line is that the agencies just don't care, protestations about artist's rights notwithstanding. They make their money on the license whoever uploads the content.

1981
General Stock Discussion / Re: Free Blogger Illustrations
« on: November 28, 2016, 10:21 »
... i would love to help apart with small resolution illustration to give away free  to turn a pirate to a genuine buyer . this would help to make the whole world a better place to :)

First, I don't think there's any evidence that you can turn a pirate into a buyer by giving away some items.

Second, there are many agency sites that offer some free content, and many other sites that offer a whole collection of free (with a license; I'm not talking about pirate sites) items. So if giving things away turned pirates into buyers, the problem would already be solved.

If a charity for a cause I strongly supported approached me asking for a donation in the form of one of my images, I'd absolutely consider a donation. But if some business, however small, just wants to boost their bottom line instead of mine, I'm not sure why I'd help them do that

1982
Alamy.com / Re: Submitting editorial images
« on: November 23, 2016, 10:21 »
http://www.alamy.com/blog/introducing-the-new-alamy-image-manager

RF editorial is in these changes, rolling out starting this week (not sure when everyone will have these tools)

1983
Alamy.com / Re: Payment Threshold
« on: November 23, 2016, 10:20 »
I did not get any e-mail from Alamy about payment threshold changing (and I did check my spam folder), so I went to look on the site to see what I could find.

The legal stuff hasn't changed (still $75) but it mentions "...or such lower amount as is published on the Alamy website from time to time". Where would this lower amount appear on the web site? I figured my contributor dashboard would be a good place to find any notice I'd missed, but I can't see anything.

I can see a notice of a new blog post that they're about to roll out the new image manager - 50 tags max (no deletions for existing images), only one group of keywords, but you can designate 10 supertags (not sure how). You can enter multi-word keywords (not sure what that means for existing images where they broke up multi-word entries on upload, but I'm guessing we'll have to fix manually).

And editorial comes to RF images!!

http://www.alamy.com/blog/introducing-the-new-alamy-image-manager

Roll out beginning this week, but apparently it's not happening for everyone at the same time.

1984
StockFresh / Re: Sales at Stockfresh
« on: November 20, 2016, 16:47 »
I uploaded about 1400 files there in 2011 when I left iStock exclusivity thinking I'd give it a shot as the guy behind it was one of the founders of StockXpert.

It never really took off, but I made about $50 a year (that's not a typo) until fall 2015. Since then I've made about $28 and sales appear to have dried up. I can't see any reason to upload there.

1985
It depends on who the buyer is. If it's a large company and they're willing to sign a contract for the price, payable on publication (with perhaps some small payment up front for licensing the full resolution for comp use), I'd go for it, albeit for a higher price than if they pay up front.

Alamy's pricing is higher in part because they give such generous terms to their large customers - use now and pay whenever. I did a deal a few years ago with a publishing company that puts out home improvement books. They wanted to use 4 of my images and after OK'ing the watermarked ones, wanted the unwatermarked version to put the book together. I was paid when they published (which was very delayed because of the 2008 financial meltdown). I would not have done the deal if it wasn't a known business entity as the risk of non-payment would have been way too high.

If you decide to go ahead, make sure everything is in writing and signed :)

1986
General Stock Discussion / GL Email to change Password
« on: November 14, 2016, 20:38 »
I'm unable to get into my account.  Trying to resend the email, and then clicking on the link gives a "page not found" error.  Anyone get in touch with them?
I got a page not found error the first time, but tried again (I think I had the mail resent a second time) and then it worked. Clearly buggy but I didn't contact them as I was able to log in in the end. This was yesterday or Saturday, I think.

1987
Selling Stock Direct / Re: Shutterstock Followers
« on: November 14, 2016, 08:47 »
Regarding changes made recently (I think) that are a step backwards IMO - they've removed the option from More/Advanced Search to look for work by a particular contributor. You can still do it from a a particular image (click on the name to see a portfolio), but you used to be able to do a search and then narrow the results by contributor name, and that's gone.

I'm guessing they don't want buyers to be able to pay too much attention to who produced the work

1988
General Macrostock / Re: I believe in quality.
« on: November 07, 2016, 15:18 »
Quality is such a vague term in the context of licensing stock. If a buyer finds it useful - or lots of buyers find it useful -  then saying it's low quality but sells a lot seems pretty daft to me. Assuming that work that doesn't sell doesn't meet market demand assumes that the market got to take a look at the work and decided not to buy it. That's not always what happens. Good, current, saleable work can and does languish sometimes.

I've been selling stock a while and have seen sales for images take off or sink as changes in search results occur on a site (easier to see when collections were smaller). Not seasonal images, or outdated technology or fashion; just a sudden shift in what ends up on page one for default search results. I'm not the only one who's seen this - you can find oodles of discussions of overnight changes.

Reality is that search position isn't the only thing that determines sales, but it's a huge factor. You can't flog cr#p by putting it on page one, but if there are several perfectly usable images in a certain category, the one up front in the search results will typically sell better.

But the idea that quality images (whatever those are) will just float to the top is wishful thinking, IMO. Good images in an underserved niche have more of a shot than those in an oversupplied category (over 3 million hits for Christmas background on Shutterstock for example), but filling the first page with spammed garbage helps no-one (I doubt that stuff actually sells as it's mostly much less good than what you see in a popular search) and hurts both buyers and ethical, honest contributors.

It's true that contributors don't and can't control the search engine, but can fuss if there are bugs an agency hasn't noticed or horrendous unfairness of some sort. Fussing without leverage generally doesn't work (that's the big stick part of walk softly and carry a big stick).

The bigger the agencies get, the less they need any one of us - they're more worried about getting and keeping buyers than contributors at this point (especially SS with their apparent disinterest in what's in the collection as long as the numbers are big and growing). So it's harder than it was to influence them.

You could choose to avoid dealing with complaints or petitions, but I think there's bucketloads of data from the last decade and a half that thinking all you have to do is produce better images and sales will come isn't going to work out.

1989
https://www.linkedin.com/in/yanickvallee

I'm assuming this is the owner of this new company

Given my portfolio size, your service would cost $19.95 a month and I couldn't possibly justify paying that. Perhaps some of the most successful factory services could make financial sense of this type of service, but for smaller outfits, the cost seems prohibitive (to me)

1990
Shutterstock.com / Re: Quarterly results
« on: November 05, 2016, 12:33 »
An article on why investors reacted negatively to Shutterstock's results.

http://www.nasdaq.com/article/shutterstock-shares-fall-on-weak-sales-guidance-cm704429

I read through the transcript of the earnings call, and it seemed to me  that SS was being pretty defensive about the impact of Adobe on their sales/earnings (basically saying it made no difference and hammering on the talking point of their library being the biggest).

One question about the downloads from the Photoshop plugin didn't get answered but Oringer said "We are seeing thousands of users in Adobe use our product with access to over 100 million of our images. So we see thousands of people inside of Adobe accessing the largest collection that's ever been integrated into creative cloud period." If he'd had tens of thousands of users of the plugin, he'd have said that, so I'm assuming that the actual number of users really is low. And I also assume they'd have trumpeted the download numbers if they were significant.

The CFO talked about what they've done promoting the plugin "... major holding companies and advertising agencies to make presentations which our sales teams have done to significant sized groups at their organizations so that they can see the ease of use" and about the great customer feedback they've gotten. This seems to indicate there are no real results so far ('cause they'd have talked about that, not their sales efforts, if they could have).

I also found the comments about the various segments of their business a little depressing for those of us who aren't included in their Premier Select collection. "Enterprise" is 30% of their revenue with 35,000 customers and "... continues to grow faster than the business today". Edited to make a correction; most of us are not in the Premier Select collection. All of us are in Premier - thanks to Shelma1 for pointing out the distinction

They have over 1.6 million customers total.  They expect to convert more "e-commerce" customers into enterprise accounts - I think e-commerce is where most of us here live as far as downloads.  "...our enterprise customer base has grown rapidly and we expect that trend to continue as we convert more e-commerce customers into enterprise accounts, broaden the portfolio of content available to our enterprise customers, and introduce new functionality and services into our premier product. Customers who upgrade to our enterprise product increase their annual spend with Shutterstock significantly"

They also said "Finally, we saw revenue per download increase 5% on a reported basis and 8% excluding the impact of foreign currency movements primarily driven by our continued success in growing our enterprise business which operates at higher price points than our traditional e-commerce offerings."

Bottom line, the vanishing of the high-value SODs appears to be a result of them converting the buyers who shopped with our stuff to other collections where our offerings aren't available. Hence my patterns of seeing download volumes up and revenue down.

A guy from Deutsche Bank asked about revenue growth - that it appeared to be overall at a rate close to the consumer growth (he didn't get a clear answer as to why, at least as I read it) and also asked about the "re-platforming" driving acceleration in revenue growth - why hadn't that happened as they'd earlier said it might. Lots of words in the answers about motherhood and apple pie, but no direct answer to the questions asked :(

1991
General Stock Discussion / Re: Question regarding uses of images
« on: November 04, 2016, 16:07 »
Hello Everybody!
I'm new to this forum, but have been shooting stock for a couple of years now.
Here is my question: Is there any license provided by any microstock agency that allows somebody to buy my images and then sell prints of it (without any modification) without even crediting the photographer?

Almost all the agencies offer an extended license (more money for more rights) to cover this sort of use. Some of them have a limit on how many copies (although how that would ever been enforced is a big question).

Many agencies let you opt out of extended licenses so you can skip that sort of license if you plan to sell your own prints.

1992
123RF / Re: Sales
« on: November 04, 2016, 11:07 »
"It would mean a great deal to us if you could tell us why youve stopped shopping at 123RF.com :("

Received a survey request from 123rf this morning. I clicked on the link, but it's clearly targeted at buyers not contributors.

I don't have a buyer account there so I'm not sure why I received this - I did find it interesting that their incentive was something that doesn't cost them anything (free month with StockUnlimited) versus a discount or incentive to shop at 123rf. If you wanted to get buyers back to 123rf, why wouldn't you let them shop there for free as the "thank you"?

I thought the list of questions was a bit strange - starting out with asking for my "UID" - they don't use that terminology anywhere on the site. They use "Username/Email" on the English version of the site if you go to log in (and I assume that's what they want). They might also have pre-filled that out with the e-mail they sent the invitation to so as to save me a step.

It always bugs me when there's no "other" option, especially when the list of choices doesn't look complete to me - for example, why not have an option for "my company purchased a subscription at another site". Let me tell them why I don't purchase there any more versus assuming they already know all the possible reasons.

The fact that they're doing a survey suggests that they're seeing some fall off in business (it's also possible that they're just supremely attentive to customers, but then I've no idea why they'd be sending that e-mail to a contributor who never bought anything in that case)

Anyone else get one of these?

1993
Newbie Discussion / Re: Review time on 123rf
« on: November 03, 2016, 10:35 »
I wonder if the Level of the contributor plays a factor in review times?  Kind of makes sense that say a Level 4 or higher would get faster reviews since they bring in my sales.
I'm level 4 and my last batch took several weeks (even after writing to ask about the delay), so if there is a preference, it's for higher ranks than that

1994
123RF / Re: Disappearing sales totals
« on: November 02, 2016, 09:13 »
I'm seeing my sales for yesterday (Nov 1) this morning (Nov 2) and my October sales (sad as they were!) are still showing. I think I'm seeing everything I should but I didn't look yesterday so I don't know if I saw the bug this month (I did last month)

1995
http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/epa-european-pressphoto-agency-and-shutterstock-sign-global-distribution-deal-300354054.html

There's not a lot of detail in the press release. I wonder if this is something outside their "regular" library or if the "daily image content" just goes into the hopper along with everything else?

They announced a deal last week for video distribution too:

https://www.shutterstock.com/press/12952

1996
...You're absolutely right, but you're also splitting hairs slightly. I mean, it's a graphical symbol meant to represent an event, and a brand, across all of their marketing channels. If that doesn't constitute a logo then it's pretty * close... it's not like such a case would get laughed out of court.

Are you seriously suggesting that the guy should forget about the rules of Shutterstock being broken, and his intellectual property rights being breached, just because there's a slight chance that the logo might not be a logo, when in every conceivable way... it does seem to be a logo?...

Splitting hairs is what lawyers do. At the hourly rates they charge, that can be very costly for their clients. In the US with contingency fees being legal (not the case everywhere) sometimes if you have the possibility of a huge payout, a lawyer will take a case on a contingency basis.

If you have large companies, governments or rich clients on one side, you have to consider the practicalities of the chance of winning and the costs of doing so, weighing that against the largest possible payout you think you could get. If you win and it costs you more in legal fees than your judgment, what's the point?

It's in the contributor's best financial interests to try and resolve this without a lawsuit, IMO. In addition to the issues of making the details of your case , you've got five countries involved, apparently, and possibly another country where the agency is. Which court do you take this to?

The OP mentioned that the countries are rich - not sure what that has to do with anything regarding the infringement issue, but it probably means they can outspend a stock illustrator in a legal fight. Legal battles are typically long, costly and ugly.

1997
I guess my point wasn't stated very well.

If you say my artwork used in all my print and web materials is a logo and I say it's not, how do you resolve that legally? If I'm the buyer and make materials with purchased vectors, the only clear way there's no arguing about whether it's a logo or not is if I try to protect it legally as such. I'm assuming that hasn't happened here.

Otherwise you'll head to court (or settlement negotiations) with me (buyer) saying I'm within the license terms as there's no logo here and the contributor arguing that my materials do constitute a logo and asking for more money for a different license.

Artwork doesn't become a logo just because the creator of the artwork says that's what the buyer has done with it.

1998
It isn't a logo unless they try and trademark it. Otherwise it's just art they use in their materials.

Why are you assuming it's a logo?

1999
123RF / Re: Review time at 123
« on: October 27, 2016, 17:10 »
If this hasn't been mentioned: the wait for photos isn't much better.  >:(


I'm not going to upload anything else to them at the moment. I contacted them about a batch of 30 photos after a few weeks wait. It took a day or two to get the "we're busy" answer. Then two were inspected right away and it was nearly a week before the other 28 were. I was very surprised at the level of oddball rejections too.

After years of pretty reliable performance, the last two months have been really awful for sales - 50% drop from the same month a year earlier type awful. I uploaded batches of remodeling pictures earlier this year that SS also got. They're selling at SS and nothing much at 123rf.

I wonder if this CEO change has anything to do with it?

http://www.stockphotosecrets.com/news/123rf-new-ceo-marko-oonk.html

Linked In says the new job started in September

https://uk.linkedin.com/in/marcooonk

There was some talk about going public (from February this year with a 12-18 month timeline)

http://www.dealstreetasia.com/stories/32367-123rf-32367/

The investment group that Andy Sitt (founder of 123rf) has:

http://www.inmaginator.com/



2000
I cannot know for sure, I only see so many youtube videos, one showing a dilligent speaking on TV with a tribune showing my Illustration, then five countries armies with trumpets looking at a flag being raised... with my Illustration on it...

It's kind of big but not sure what leverage I have.

Without any more details than you've given, I don't think you have any reason to complain about their uses of your illustration.

If there are limits on numbers of impressions (print) that they've violated, they'd need an extended license. If they are distributing your vector as part of a press kit, then that's effectively a template (forbidden at some agencies; extended license at others). If they're selling tee shirts with your eagle on it then they need an extended license, but if they're just giving away swag at these meetings, then they're fine with a standard license (print run limits still apply).

The rule about no logos is that the buyer cannot copyright or trademark something with your copyrighted artwork in it. If someone uses your artwork in all their materials knowing that they can't trademark it as their logo, there's nothing to stop them licensing royalty free artwork for that purpose.

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