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Messages - Jo Ann Snover

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2076
...soon we would be sending condolences to each other, each time we get an email
asking us to opt in for an EL

They don't ask you to opt back in, just for permission to process the sale for a single customer. I had another request today - for $34, so I said yes to that :) I will remain opted out as long as they have pricing that can drop my EL royalties below $28 each.

2077
I didn't get this e-mail, but that domain was used when they sent out the erroneous "Regarding Repeated Words and Phrases in Image Titles" e-mail last month.

As long as you don't click on any links in the e-mail and go to the SS URL yourself, I can't see a problem resetting your password.

2078
Curious why you are leaving one?  If we deactivate them all do we need to retest?  I may want to upload some things there in the future, but they will not be as many as I would before.

In my case I left 100 images that were shot at an iStockalypse (when I was exclusive) and which I contractually may not sell elsewhere. I have access to my account and all the history that way - I'd leave one image just so I could look at deactivation dates, upload dates and so on (until they remove or break all the software that provides that information).

They can make any rules they want about passing a test - they could say that as I haven't uploaded since 2013 I'd have to retest if they wanted; contract can change whenever, and if you don't like it you can leave :) So keeping images doesn't insulate you from anything, but, for the moment at least, preserves some history

2079
Software / Re: affinity designer - photoshop alternative
« on: July 19, 2016, 15:18 »
The problem with LR (I have a standalone copy of LR 6 and Photoshop & Illustrator CS6) is that they've changed the RAW version so if you keep upgrading Lightroom 6 it's no longer compatible with CS6

http://blogs.adobe.com/lightroomjournal/2015/07/update-to-camera-support-policy-in-cs6.html

You can use DNG as a workaround, but nice integration like the Open as layers in Photoshop command in Lightroom will no longer work as you can't go from developing in Lightroom directly to Photoshop CS6

For the moment I've stayed with LR 6.1 which is compatible with CS6, but the minute I need new camera support, I'll be stuck without upgrading something.

Adobe says the incompatibility is because of improvements they're making to camera raw, but I'm sure if they wanted to, they could make improvements and keep compatibility; they just want to keep pushing those of us who aren't interested in subscriptions into giving in.

They aren't helping themselves that they keep effing up the "improvements" in Lightroom and I have yet to see anything of the new Photoshop CC features that was even slightly tempting.

I would be happy to pay for an upgrade with just OS support, bug fixes and camera raw upgrade support to the CS6 products. Shame their head's too far up their you-know-where to offer that option...

2080
Software / Re: affinity designer - photoshop alternative
« on: July 19, 2016, 11:31 »
For anyone interested in Affinity Photo, they are offering a 20% discount through July 21 ($39.99) and free upgrade to version 1.5 when it is released later this year. They made a video of some of the new features (although I think that for me, batch processing and macro recording are more likely to be the big hits in the new version)




2081
123RF / Re: Payment???
« on: July 19, 2016, 11:08 »
I was paid on the 15th

2082
Getty has never allowed you to remove an image unless it is for the same reasons they have posted for removal from Istock. Hmmmm, come to think of it most of the macros operate the same way ever since I can remember. At least the ones I have dealt with did not allow you to remove anything on a bipolar whim which seems to be common place in the microstock world.

Alamy may not count in your definition of macro, but their 6 month wait is a very different thing from what Getty is looking to impose. Alamy just makes you wait to delete so customers can complete their cycle of transactions, but you don't have to justify what you're doing to them.

Alamy's restrictions (given their business model) seem very reasonable and a good balance of customer and contributor interests. Getty's are one-sided and unreasonable, especially given the much lower royalty rates they offer contributors.

2083
another possibility is preparation for a sale,
remember Corbis sold to Visual China Group?


No, Getty bought Corbis, and got in bed with vcg, right?


http://petapixel.com/2016/01/22/corbis-images-sold-by-bill-gates-to-china-visual-group/

Getty just has the distribution rights (outside of China)

2084
Shutterstock.com / Re: Changes at the top
« on: July 14, 2016, 19:39 »
https://www.linkedin.com/in/anshuaggarwal

The guy's only been there 10 months! So was he not working out?

He managed 2 years at Tumblr but only 11 months at the job before that.

On glassdoor, someone who left Tumblr in March 2015 (6 months prior to this guy) said:

"Pros
- Lots of free food, parties and alcohol. If you're a "bro" then you'll have a great time.
Cons
- Tumblr is run on a tangled mess of homegrown tools, horrendously fragile code and the worst engineering practices I've ever seen from any company. There is no QA, code reviews aren't taken seriously, anyone can commit to master and push their code to production at any time. The entire development process can best be described as institutionalized cowboy coding.

- Brogramming is real and Tumblr exemplifies it "

So possibly it's a good thing that this person is leaving SS? I guess it depends on who comes onboard next...

2085
I don't recall anyone complaining about this sort of thing recently

Shutterstock did a similar thing to sweetsixty last month (6/2). She/He posted about it here...

Topic: Shutterstock Termination


There was no real info there about the type of problem that prompted closure beyond one poster saying they thought that was use of public domain imagery without crediting it as such. If that's the case, that's a bit different from suspected plagiarism or copyright infringement.

2086
Scary indeed, but things are ok now. ..


Glad it's been resolved, but given how long you've been with SS, I'm surprised you didn't get more considerate treatment. Not to say that longstanding contributors couldn't do wrong, but it's pretty clear they're not just in this for a few quick bucks made from stealing other's work.

Makes me wonder if they're testing out some new automated scanning of work (rather than you being reported by someone who thought you stole their stuff or who wanted to hurt you to favor their own work). I don't recall anyone complaining about this sort of thing recently (which you think would happen if a new tool was casting too wide a net).

Did they explain anything about the allegations made? Seems like due process principles would include a right to know the charges and see the evidence against you...

2087
Not straight forward deleting 1500 files one at a time though, only 1100 to go!
Are you deactivating all your files? If so, wouldn't it be easier just to contact CR to close your account?

Would love to, but have audio files too and Getty offering good terms for those sales

A contributor who submits audio says that Getty's changing the terms there too (I don't have any source material on this; just another contributor summarizing what he received)

- They are going to remove whole audio section from istock to a new site
- New pending times for audio will be 3-4 months
- Royalty statements will be issued monthly and payments will be made every quarter. (!)

2088
They do actually pay you when they sell a deactivated image, so you get an email about it.

They do pay (although I had to get in touch with support to get the image IDs for the money they initially sent me e-mail about), but they have no right to license deactivated images. Their rights were terminated when the file was deactivated.

I had an e-mail back and forth with them about this as they initially said they could sell extended licenses to someone who purchased an RF license while the file was active and I disagreed. After a long time, they admitted that they shouldn't have done that and that they do have checks to be sure they don't license deactivated files but they failed in this case.

I wasn't angry enough (and don't have endless free time and spare cash) to pursue this to make them undo the license once they admitted that they should not do that. But they were technically violating my rights over that image by selling a license to it without my consent.

2089
it is a major change, are they saying we will not be able to delete our files anymore? (I guess they  are going to use Getty policy "all or nothing", so you wish you have to delete whole portfolio but not specific files)
Sorry ,missed this thread and posted on the other. They don't even say that. There's no guarantee they will let you delete your images even if you ask them to delete the whole portfolio. This is the worst.

I've e-mailed Tyler to ask him to merge the two as it's messy. We posted within a minute of one another :)

2090
Couple of comments based on what I see. I'm not a huge player although I've been with SS a long time (since 2004 with a hiatus for 3 years from 2008-11 while I was exclusive at iStock). I do this part time and my portfolio is essentially following my life around. Places I go, my home, garden and me.

My best month ever at SS was just shy of $1K and as I mentioned in an earlier thread about changes over the last couple of years, the biggie is that the money is decreasing even though the downloads are holding. For June, downloads were up 4% over 2015, but $$ were down 36% - almost all relating to SODs all but vanishing.

What I have noticed is that new work for me is selling, a very pleasant surprise. It can't be that they're just turning off things for those at the 38cent level (not saying that it's not happening; just that it's not that broad).

Last year we did a big remodel and I took tons of pictures (and blogged about it). Although I uploaded a handful of images at the end of last year, I've been working through more of those this year - plus a few from a Spring trip to Kauai. What has been pleasing - even though I know remodeling is a good topic for sales - is that these new images have been selling and are getting good search position in a category with over 20K images (depends on what you search for as to exactly the number).

My older best sellers are still showing up in the daily sales (which is good; not complaining, just noting it). There was a day last month (I'd check details, but the site is just gonzo today and I can't get it to load) where nearly a third of the day's sales was from new remodeling images uploaded in the last few months.

I don't know what SS is up to - although I am very concerned that they're trashing their long term future in the rush to make things look good short term to keep Wall Street happy - but it isn't as simple as turning off search position for the 38 cent tier.

2091
I received e-mail from Getty this morning and over the next month or two they'll be removing the ability to edit keywords, titles or descriptions after acceptance. Perhaps more importantly, you won't be able to delete your own work any more - you'll have to contact support.

"Please note that we will only consider deactivating files for legal or similar justifiable reasons as it provides a negative experience for customers when files are suddenly unavailable for license. "

I've always considered the inability to delete my own files a pretty big red flag for any agency (after some bad experiences with now-defunct startups). I can live with Alamy's 6 month wait given their business model (and you don't have to justify anything, just wait).

Seems to me that Getty wants to sell at micro prices for rock bottom royalties but have all the red tape and restrictions of the higher priced macro business.

Contributor e-mails are now coming from e(dot)gettyimages(dot)com so if any of you use whitelists, you'll want to add that (an earlier piece of mail from them was ID'd as spam as I only had gettyimages(dot)com on the whitelist.

2092
Newbie Discussion / Re: Long Exposure night photos
« on: July 13, 2016, 16:16 »
I have no idea what the kit lens was, or what the exposure time was, but I'd be looking at an unstable tripod, droopy ballhead, shaking ground (trucks going by, people playing ball games next to you, wind, you touching the camera or some other source of motion that moved things during the exposure time.

http://photographyblogger.net/how-to-increase-sharpness-in-long-exposure-photography/

2093
General Stock Discussion / Re: SSTK stock price
« on: July 13, 2016, 01:45 »
I think the big reaction today is to the google deal, as the S&P inclusion happened a few weeks ago.

Does anyone understand the google deal and what it means? Is this like their facebook deal?


This article says that the images are selected automatically based on keywords

http://www.mediapost.com/publications/article/280120/google-shutterstock-licensing-deal-automatically.html

And I asked SS support what we'd be paid and what the buyer received. See what they told me here.

2094
General Stock Discussion / Re: SSTK stock price
« on: July 12, 2016, 17:38 »
Motley Fool says the gain was because of the Google deal

http://www.fool.com/investing/2016/07/12/why-american-airlines-group-shutterstock-and-weath.aspx

This article reports something similar, but refers to the Adobe rivalry growing. Problem is, other than saying that Adobe's library is 50 million and it's stock was up 0.4% today versus SS 14.2%, it didn't say how the rivalry was growing

http://www.investors.com/news/technology/shutterstock-jumps-on-google-deal-as-adobe-rivalry-grows/

2095
Shutterstock.com / Re: SS -- Google deal
« on: July 12, 2016, 17:35 »
I was pleasantly surprised to receive a reply from SS contributor support to my question about royalties.

We'll get the same as or more than the on demand image royalties for the small/medium size where the usage rights are more limited than the standard RF license. There were no more details on the limits.

So more than the FB deal provides us but they get a larger size.

The money will show up in the SOD column. I had an SOD today for $1.28 - my normal sm/med on demand royalty is $1.24. Possibly this was one of those? Impossible to know.

2096
Shutterstock.com / Re: made 215 bucks on a single image?
« on: July 12, 2016, 17:29 »
jo ann on the link you provided it does put a limit on enhanced at 120 max. I know though don't question SS direct as the money can always go away.

I have no idea where to find it, but I'm pretty sure I recall them saying that the "up to" was based on the products they had at the time but anything negotiated as a deal would get that earnings-based rate. In other words, it's not actually a cap.

2097
Shutterstock.com / Re: SS -- Google deal
« on: July 12, 2016, 15:09 »
I sent a note to support asking what this means for contributors - will it work like the Facebook deal that we get a subscription royalty for the limited use only within the ad, or something different.

I also suggested it'd be good to let contributors know what this means for them when they put out a press release about a new deal. I checked blog and forum announcements and didn't see anything.

Almost as if they really didn't think it important to keep us informed... I'll post here if I receive a reply

2098
Shutterstock.com / Re: made 215 bucks on a single image?
« on: July 12, 2016, 15:03 »
What happened? I thought the highest SS paid out for an image was around 118 bucks or so on the highest tier but just woke up this morning and saw that I have a single enhanced image that sold for 215.46.
Trust me not complaining but what happened?

I've no idea what they sold for that (in the way of rights) but you get a percentage (based on lifetime earnings) of all deals classified as SOD

https://submit.shutterstock.com/payouts

So if you're at 30%, the customer paid $718.20 for some set of rights. It would really be good if we knew what rights, but they've been asked and refuse to say.

Congrats :)

2099
So you take a 10% to 20% service fee prior to handing money over to the photographer?

https://focalpool.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/203127605-How-much-does-it-cost-to-sell-on-FocalPool-

Meaning that the client pays FocalPool? But the licensing terms section says the deal is between the client and the photographer

https://focalpool.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/203127655-How-does-media-licensing-and-pricing-work-

You say regarding storage: "You'll start off with 10GB. There are plenty of other ways to increase your storage for free. If you need mass storage email us."

So this storage is for work uploaded to FocalPool by the photographer for delivery to the client? And how quickly and by what methods do you pay the photographer? Minimum or maximum prices?

I'm now completely confused about your business model and charges to photographers. What are you doing for this rather vague 10% to 20% fee other than operating the web ads for future shoots (and how does the percentage get set)? Don't you think it'd be a good idea to get the details straight before inviting people to participate so they know what they're agreeing to?

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