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« on: March 13, 2012, 12:04 »
So what we can gather from all this is, that if a non-top 4 agency wants to sell anything, let's say be a part of the middle tier, it has to sell the files at super low prices, that especially shows in the price of full size. Since I only contribute to the middle tier agencies (and PD which is ranked as the top low tier agency) I can only experience those low prices. In a way they're forced to contribute to the race to the bottom. Or remain small and insignificant. Faced with two bad choices, two ways of doing business. I wish someone would finally come up with the third way
If you say so, but I'm going to agree to disagree on this one. Have a good day.
2152
« on: March 13, 2012, 11:33 »
GL's highest price is 6$. You get 3$. It's better than 123RF, that's for sure, but still just half of what you get at IS, SS, DT (if it's a higher level image, then a lot less). But still, with such low volume, the prices would have to be dozen times higher to make it up...
I must be magical then because mine goes up to $15. 
Then you must get special treatment. Here's the first image found under business, priced at 6$ for a 21 mpix file http://graphicleftovers.com/graphic/business-588/
Yes, you can set your price at $6, $10 or $15. That contributor set their price a $6. It was their choice. Cutcaster does the same thing. So do sites like Clipartof and Drawshop. There might be others that do that to. It's a nice feature.
2153
« on: March 13, 2012, 11:17 »
GL's highest price is 6$. You get 3$. It's better than 123RF, that's for sure, but still just half of what you get at IS, SS, DT (if it's a higher level image, then a lot less). But still, with such low volume, the prices would have to be dozen times higher to make it up...
I must be magical then because mine goes up to $15.
2154
« on: March 13, 2012, 10:28 »
But you do realize I'm talking about photos, do you? 
Does it matter? Some of these sites still pay more on small or large sizes.
Name some, name at least 1, you're talking off the top of your head all the time. I'm stating facts all the time 
Veer's prices are pretty similar and they pay 30%. Cutcaster and GL let you set your own prices and pay 40% and 52%. Yay looks like they pay more (especially with Euro conversions). That's just off the top of my head.
2155
« on: March 13, 2012, 09:29 »
But you do realize I'm talking about photos, do you? 
Does it matter? Some of these sites still pay more on small or large sizes.
2156
« on: March 12, 2012, 20:42 »
It's no generalization, it's a fact. You can say whatever you want and you actually are talking about it without doing the math. I've done the math, I did post it already and even if you get payed only 7c/credit at IS (which really happens rarely), you still get 1.61$ and not less than a dollar. But as well all know you usually get over 5$ even if you're getting only 15% royalties. So what good does that 50% cut do for you? Absolutely nothing, it's just something that is comforting you, but in fact only blinding you. And as we all know and you pointed it out, there's no volume, so in fact you don't only get over 5 times less, it's more like 50 times less. That's why ppl are reporting getting only 10% from non-top 4 agencies, even though they contribute to as much as 25 agencies!!! I really don't know what these ppl are thinking, they're so shortsighted, they don't see they're helping in the race to the bottom. And yeah, which top 4 agency has poor prices? I mean compared to the rest. Which is so utterly pathetic to charge only 5 cr for a full sized JPG (and the big uns usually charge more per credit)
I can't say I understand your argument. I typically earned about $4 (17%) a download before I left iStock. My vectors can earn me more or similar per download on Canstock, GL, Clipartof, Drawshop, Veer, Cutcaster, Stockfresh, Bigstock, Yay and 123RF (these are just the ones I contribute to). Prices are higher at some and lower at others.
2157
« on: March 12, 2012, 19:00 »
Every single one besides top 4. Their prices are pathetic, it doesn't help at all that they pay us up to 50% royalties
That seems like a generalization because I don't find that at all. In fact, I'd say it's the exact opposite. Most of the big 4 have either poor royalties or prices compared to the others. They just make up for it in volume or sales consistency. There are some agencies that have worse deals, but there are some that have a lot better deals. Some are even better earners. The Big 4 agencies aren't necessarily everyone's best earners. I know they are not mine.
2158
« on: March 12, 2012, 15:07 »
I'm really thinking of not only stopping uploads on these small sites, but deleting the ports, I'm sure I'm loosing a sale here and there because of that at a better paying site.
I get the 123RF comments, but what are the other small sites?
2159
« on: March 09, 2012, 01:38 »
i contribute only on SS, DT,FT,1234RF,DP,CanStockPhoto.
SS,DT, FT and 123RF make over 95% of my income. why should I waste time on other agencies ( exept IS but that is a personal matter) for 5 max. 10%. that extra time i can use improving my port on the big 4.
PS i just started last week contributing on Alamy.
I'd say you never really know until you try. The agencies you mentioned are only a little over 50% of my income, so everyone's numbers are a little different.
2160
« on: March 08, 2012, 17:34 »
Wow! Way to make me feel included DT! I'll make sure to tick the I'm not a photographer box.
2161
« on: March 08, 2012, 13:30 »
I would guess that the percentages they are paying for single image downloads are about what they are paying for subscriptions.
2162
« on: March 07, 2012, 16:01 »
Makes sense. It will be interesting to see if it develops into something.
2163
« on: March 07, 2012, 14:57 »
I'm going with "at" "hashtag" "question mark"... I think I need an explanation too.
2164
« on: March 07, 2012, 11:24 »
So, I got an email saying that subscriptions are are going to be launched. I'm not yet sure what to make of it. $0,50 per subscription download is relatively high, but it is nothing compared to an actual sale.
I didn't really get the move and was fairly disappointed to hear about them offering subs. I guess I can always leave if I don't like it.
2165
« on: March 07, 2012, 01:50 »

Imagine my disappointment upon reading this thread and discovering it has nothing whatsoever to do with ... the kind of moaning I was thinking of. 
Were you thinking of ghosts?
2166
« on: March 06, 2012, 21:00 »
Thank you Elena!! I feel the same as well. And you are right, within the foreseeable future, I don't think any microstocker owned website will be able to make more than the "big" agencies combined.
I don't know about combined, but I don't think it's unrealistic to be competitive with individual agencies. Maybe, even being my top earner.
2167
« on: March 06, 2012, 15:58 »
The new little agencies are a waste of time. They do nothing but dilute the market and force prices and commissions AND sales down at the established places. Parasites covers it just fine for me.
What's a new little agency? Aren't they all fairly new. Most of them not so little anymore though. I still have a domain I bought in 2001. I must be a dinosaur. I did update my dinosaur the other day. He is still looking good for a ten year old. He's evolved a lot.
2168
« on: March 05, 2012, 01:26 »
Congrats! I've enjoyed running my own site, but it's definitely a challenge to get a steady stream of buyers in each month. I'm happy with the initial results, but there is still a lot of work to do. I've just launched an affiliate program and hope to ramp up some advertising this year. But, it's all a daunting task for a one man army. Maybe, I need to join some kind of small businessman support group.  Good luck!
2170
« on: March 02, 2012, 12:39 »
if I ever have a designer/buyer interested in cool illustrations/vectors I will send them to your place, promise you 
Thanks!
2171
« on: March 02, 2012, 11:35 »
Hmm... I guess this received a warm reception of crickets.  I guess I'll slink back to my secretive marketing laboratory in a dormant volcano and devise my next devious promotional campaign.
2172
« on: March 01, 2012, 18:48 »
Your logic is flawed. Since they only accept the best images, they'd probably buy only around 100 out of 1000 images from you, if they're really good that is. That's 5k for you, I'm pretty sure you'd get a lot more selling 1k at regular ms agencies
That's why I said it would depend on how many images they are buying in my first and second post. It's economies of scale. Not too much different from micro. Obviously, there would be a lot of questions you'd need answered, but it doesn't really matter. It was more of a hypothetical.
2173
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2174
« on: February 29, 2012, 17:16 »
I'm still not seeing the horribleness of this deal. You would only need to sell them 1000 images a year to make $50k. Depending on your RPI, those same images could take years to earn the same amount (if they ever do). If it is not an exclusive deal, then you could use it as a quick cash supplement (like doing contract work). Maybe even hold on to the shoots that you think are going to be better sellers.
2175
« on: February 29, 2012, 15:38 »
Edited: I guess it would still depend on how many of your images they buy. I could see a system like this working, but it could be risky. I guess the same can be said about speculatively creating images to sell as RF.
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