I wouldn't trust the poll for one second since all it takes for something to drop from #4 to #15 seems to be one or two people voting.

Depends on what you're trusting it to do. I trust that it's an accurate portrayal of the data that's entered into it, and I have no reason to believe that the data that is entered into it isn't accurate.

Although, trusting it to give an accurate portrayal of the sales value of certain marketplaces, has and always will be unwise, as you never know how many people are entering data for those sites. A few people doing well on one site might make it appear artificially higher, and likewise a few people doing badly on others might make it seem artificially low... when it's actually pretty good.

To give a bit more weight to the list, it would be interesting to show "from X votes" or something like that.

It's pretty difficult to separate out sales figures from different marketplaces... as you have one account with which you can sell on PhotoDune, VideoHive, Themeforest etc. So some income might be getting reported for stuff that isn't specifically photos or videos.

I know I report everything, including sound effects and 3D models, as well as my VideoHive content... but they're only a very small percentage of my revenue, 90% of my sales are on VideoHive. Although that does include After Effects templates. I guess that muddies the waters slightly.

However, if you have somebody who also sells Wordpress themes then that could skew the figures a bit, as Themeforest is the biggest selling marketplace at Envato, and although they are 'stock' templates, I wouldn't say they quite fall under the banner of 'microstock'.

So there you go. I see that Envato is currently down at 15th at the moment. I've just added my earnings though, so we'll see what difference that makes.

Najbolja opcija, barem po mom iskustvu... payoneer!! Kolicina novca kojeg imas na racunu se loaduje na tvoj account i ne kosta nista, znaci, samo troskovi na bankomatu, kada podizes novac. Ako imas $100 toliko se loaduje na tvoj account i Istok nista ne naplacuje. Naravno kada ti pustaju isplatu, na tu kolicinu odbijaju Withholding Tax Od 30%.

My thoughts exactly.

I've had one sale in 2010, two in 2011, one in 2012 and one in 2013. Nothing since.

Based on the movement on the 'just sold' page, and if that page is showing all the clips that have been sold... then they're selling about 10 to 20 clips a week in total. I wouldn't be surprised if they shut up shop some time soon. I'd keep pushing for the payments while you still can, before they go the way of the Revostock. 

So you're saying that removing all of my portfolio from Envato, will result in my sales tripling everywhere else?

Why doesn't somebody just drop a quick email to the IRS and ask them to check if it's all aboveboard?

I've read every single thread on the forums, and asked the same questions there that I'm asking here, and I still can't get a straight answer on how a company claiming that they do or don't do something has any bearing on my obligations as a tax payer. I must be missing something.

I earn X so I report X which means I have to pay X. Why would that be different with Envato as opposed Shutterstock or Fotolia or Pond5, for example?

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So it's only the price your works sells for that's important to you? The volume of sales doesn't matter as long as they sell for a high price?

  To me its total income from my portfolio that matters. Its nice to think someone thinks my work is worth $$$$ but in the end its total income that pays the bills.
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That's the way I see it as well. 100% royalties on $200 clips would be lovely, but not if you only sell one a month. Likewise, 10% royalties on $10 clips would be pretty terrible... but not if you're selling 2000 a month.

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I guess the main reason is we are all making too much content too fast and dividing almost the same pie for growing number of contributors The number of big and medium producers who can afford $79 for HD is unlikely growing accordingly. Videohive may be a some sort of solution. I noticed there were sales from the countries which never appeared on my Shutterstock sales map (China, Russia) and the typical buyer profile there is surely different.

I will never sell anything at Videohive.  It's too dirt cheap!!  It's horrible for contributors!!

So if you got loads of sales and made about $2K a month there, that would be really horrible?

Yes, it is very horrible.  People now can buy the same clips for $10 instead of $70+.  It's bad.  Simple math.

So it's only the price your works sells for that's important to you? The volume of sales doesn't matter as long as they sell for a high price?

The point is that you see good sales NOW on videohive because they undercut the market. Once everybody submits their stuff there your sales volume (not revenue or Profit, just the amount of files you sell) will be the same or maybe a bit more the amount of todays established sites (lets say three times more due to possible new markets, youtubes, low budget folks etc.?) .

However, once this was done the market is ruined and your revenue is minimal.

Beyond the pricing issue Videohive has. I simply think Envato is not a respectable company. For almost any EU resident it is almost impossible to work with them since they break about 6 laws with every invoice they issue in my name.

I do not respect them and do not understand why people support companies like this. I hope the IRS closes them down as soon as possible.

You know they've been around for ten by years, right? So they're pretty established already. I've been there for seven, and apart from a few very minor exceptions, my sales have increased every single month.

Not sure about the laws they're breaking... from what I can tell, they're one if the few companies that don play by the rules when it comes to VAT collection and remission, and handling US withholding tax. I'm no international tax expert though!

A Michelin starred chef earns more than a McDonalds chip fryer...

I think for the purpose of the analogy, we're looking at the turnover of the restaurants, rather than how much their staff are paid.

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I guess the main reason is we are all making too much content too fast and dividing almost the same pie for growing number of contributors The number of big and medium producers who can afford $79 for HD is unlikely growing accordingly. Videohive may be a some sort of solution. I noticed there were sales from the countries which never appeared on my Shutterstock sales map (China, Russia) and the typical buyer profile there is surely different.

I will never sell anything at Videohive.  It's too dirt cheap!!  It's horrible for contributors!!

So if you got loads of sales and made about $2K a month there, that would be really horrible?

Anyone had some crazy big sales on iStock today? I normally hit the $100 payout minimum once every other month, averaging about $60 a month. Today I've made $85 in the past few hours. I'm guessing it could be a bunch of extended licenses, but at 15%, that means somebody (or a bunch of people) have shelled out $566 on my stuff in one morning. Big spenders!

Makes me wish the same buyers had stumbled across my VideoBlocks portfolio instead! Anyway, hope there's no sales reversals or anything.