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The reviewers have a limited number of reasons for rejection available in the list box, the reviewers (most, these days) are not competent and Shutterstock's motives are never shared with contributers. In addition, most of the elements that cause an image to be worthwhile in most situations except microstock backlighting, crosslighting, selective focus, original composition are frowned on by SS and their ilk Therefor: Never take their canned responses as legitimate criticism. It might lead you down the wrong path.

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I recently saw an image of mine, about nine years old, on billboards and the sides of buses. The image had been cropped a little. It was originally 6mp.

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Shutterstock.com / Re: Shutterstock Approval Frustrations
« on: July 22, 2015, 06:07 »
I you're an experienced photographer I don't think you can gain much information of value from the reviewer's comments. They have a limited number of canned responses from which to choose. For whatever reason they decide to reject an image they have to choose at least one response, which may not be at all relevant.

I have had editorial pictures of a unique event, made in a split second, rejected for composition! It would be funny to submit some of the great iconic images of photojournalism to a SS reviewer and see what happens.

As others have said, just accept the inconsistencies and idiocies and move on or resubmit or protest.

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Shutterstock.com / Re: sudden increase of $0.38 SODs
« on: June 26, 2015, 06:10 »
Got quite a few. I looked to see $122.00 or so, maybe $18.00, but no, just $0.38!

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In general, you can no longer rely on reviewer rejection comments to actually mean much. In fact they are toxic to the point of actually misleading some newer photographers who might take them to heart and be set upon the wrong path. I'm not sure whether the reviewers are really as incompetent as they sometimes seem or whether they are under orders to reject a named percentage. They are forced to choose from a limited list box.

Myself, I think SS is sowing the seeds of their own destruction, something the whole of microstock is experiencing. It was a fun ride while it lasted!

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General Stock Discussion / Re: I love Shutterstock!!
« on: April 24, 2015, 11:10 »
SS is imperfect. Fact. Yet they've made it possible for me to afford any photo equipment I desire in my retirement years, something that would otherwise not be possible. In contrast to assignment work, I'm free to follow my nose and cover any subject I wish. I have no AD looking over my shoulder. Only a reviewer who, once-in-a-while may turn out to be an abject idiot . . . but not too often.

I read books on my Kindle and don't pay nearly what I used to for hard covers or even paperbacks. I enjoy all the music I can absorb for free. These are all 21st Century phenomena linked to computers and the internet. The graphic arts are no different than the entire arts field. To have expectations based on 20th Century practices is, to me, not realistic.

Some photographers will not lament the passing of the old business model. They will invent a new one.

That said, hey Shutterstock, how about increasing the 38 cents per by a few pennies!

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If it is unethical to photograph a person then it is unethical to look at a person.

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Well, we've always suspected that many reviewers are not exactly top-tier or even remotely qualified. I was always willing to give the reviewers a little slack, but today . . .

Rejections for "Editorial Caption--Image requires proper caption and must be tagged as editorial."

After thousands of editorial acceptances I'm pretty sure I have the process down pat. The above reason is simply not true. Where did it come from and what are they thinking?

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I think it might be OK if you're shooting celebrities. I've tried to use the Red Carpet program twice. The first time, Shutterstock did not impress the credentials committee, The second time Shutterstock ignored my request for help. I have better results negotiating on mu own.

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I am going contrary to most of the advice here. You, like me, are not in it to feed your family, but rather to get a return on an activity you enjoy and make a few bucks to further your expensive hobby. That's what I do. I've surpassed $18,000 all time on SS and a few dollars more on other sites. One went belly up recently, so I really only have SS and one other. That suits me just fine.

I shoot what I want and what interests me. If I tried to make images that are "in demand" I would not enjoy it and that would be reflected in lousy work. For instance, I've never been interested in studio work, models with releases or 17,000 varieties of business people posing in front of a white background. There are plenty of folks who are good at that and ready to (over)supply the market.

Ever since my army career in public information (writer and photographer) I've been interested in photojournalism and that's mainly what I do, along with the usual grist for my amateur's mill. I'm happy. I get to afford excellent equipment. I roam my territory photographing as the mood strikes me.

I really think you should photograph what you love. Maybe examine those images of yours that DO sell critically see if there is a common denominator that made them interesting to buyers. Good luck!

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Off Topic / Re: Will we face World War III ?
« on: July 26, 2014, 06:54 »
If the legislation passed the senate it would rubber-stamped in the house. But, it won't get out of the senate as long as there are still Democrats to oppose it.

(I think.)

(I hope.)

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You're right in that you probably didn't have to bother non-ticketed event in public space. What I have often done, if in doubt, is to ask for credentials with the added note that if the event organizer did NOT issue credentials (highly likely) to reply to me with an email stating that they do not issue credentials. I then forward this response to SS. They in turn tell me I am pre-approved for credentials and to give the reviewer a case number.
A real PITA, wouldn't you say?

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Thanks to microstock I have some nice equipment. Maybe I'll trade it for an M3 or 500CM and have fun with film, if there is any.

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Bigstock.com / Re: Bigstock editorial caption rules
« on: June 05, 2014, 06:02 »
I do the same as you submit first to SS, then BS. They have never rejected my photos based upon captioning, including the newer abbreviated form. Must be something else going on.

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It's not just a SS thing. Pretty much all the microstocks seem totally averse to picture elements that make an image interesting. The "golden hour" that photographers love around sunset/sunrise will result in a lower color temp than the reviewers can tolerate. Wrong white balance. Cross lighting or back lighting to show modeling or drama. No. Exposure issues. Full frontal lighting, flattening the subject and reducing tonal values. Oh yes! Scans of 70-year-old negs that would be of great interest to some buyers are out because of (horrors!) film grain or artifacts. And inconsistencies in editorial policies? Don't get me started.

So SS has their product: 35 million bright vacuous happy isolations on white.

Thanks. I feel better.

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Shutterstock.com / Re: Help with editorial
« on: April 25, 2013, 06:25 »
qwerty

It gets harder and harder doesn't it? My understanding, based upon the answers I get from the admins, is that you don't need the email or credentials for a NON-TICKETED event held on public property. They gave me a little blurb to include for the reviewer so he/she wouldn't make a mistake. Sheesh!

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Shutterstock.com / Re: Last SS Raise - May 13, 2008
« on: February 22, 2013, 07:40 »
Shutterstock is a corporation. A corporation knows nothing of ethics, morality or fairness. It exists for only one purpose: to make a profit.

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I know most of the people who shoot microstock want to be able to live on this income

Are you kidding? Most people don't make a living at it. I have about 4500 images on two sites. Monthly income is about $250 - $300. I don't shoot released models on white so my contributions are more documentary and journalistic. Good luck!

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There are good ideas and there are bad ideas. I have an even better idea. Why not PAY people to use our images. Better yet, conduct a bidding war where the successful photographer is the one willing to pay the most to see his/her photograph used.

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Bigstock.com / Re: No previews in new uploads
« on: March 25, 2012, 06:13 »
I've had that problem for months with BS. At every stage it reads, "Image Not Available". After the image is accepted I can then see it.

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Yes, editorial has always been a moving target with SS as with all the others. In fairness, they are dealing with laws wordwide that differ markedly. I have often said that the past greats of photojournalism would be turned down flat if they had submitted to the microstocks in this age. Much of their content was human interest definitely not newsworthy. Not to mention the obvious film grain, the dramatic backlighting and so forth.

But, I like it and will continue to sumit editorial. It's a crapshoot.

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Amazon's Kindle prices for many titles has increased about 50% during the last year. Amazon says, "The publisher sets the prices." Hmmm. Maybe the microstocks could raise prices and claim, "The photographers set the prices."

I know. I'm dreaming.

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Microstock has provided me with a nice supplemental retirement income. I submitted what I wanted, got a fair acceptance ratio and fair sales. It was fun and profitable.

That's over now. Anyone with basic math skills could see the end coming fast. If you have a factory producing and selling doodles at a nice profit, then twelve other factories locate near you, all selling doodles, well, the price of doodles is going to crash and nobody can sell them at a profit.

Even if my creative goal was to produce an endless variation of grinning business people isolated on white (and it is not and never has been) the sales of such images would be, by now, diluted almost to extinction. Thanks microstock. It was fun while it lasted!

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I use PS CS5. Since I've always had PhotoShop I see no reason to add Lightroom.

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