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Lobo, the poor guy has just shut down a slider thread, saying its just turning into another best match complaints thread. Well what . did they expect????????????
breakfast in bed?
Nonono,
He has ordered you to 'have a nice Sunday', though how he's expecting that with the best match the way it is beats me.
Yeah, urging patience until early next week when we can't even get a photo in the results?!?! He needs to wake up. There's really no excuse for this.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: Photography War
« on: March 30, 2011, 21:06 »
Well, I need a drink now. That was about as cheery as I expected it to be :D

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: IS hits rock bottom
« on: March 28, 2011, 21:07 »
Maybe a deep discount but more likely its a 2003 or 2004 50c credit.

But if it is a 50c credit, then my 17% commission should pay 8.5c. But the iStock rounding down reduces 8.5c to 8c, which is a further commission cut of 5.9%.

It's amazing how they grab 5% or 10% or 15% more to top up their commission share, as it's vital for their "sustainability", then casually slash an extra 5.9% off my commission in what appears to be violation of the terms they imposed on us, because it's merely "rounding" the money and 6% therefore is of no consequence.

Wow, that's disturbing but what I find even more disturbing is that you haven't packed your bags and left.  Really is 8.5c a whole lot better than 8c?  They have insulted you and many others time and time again with these degrading commissions yet a lot refuse to leave?  Why? What exactly are you all waiting for?  At what point will enough be enough for you?  Do they need to actually give your images away for free before you decide it's not worth selling through these arseholes?  

These companies rip you off because you allow them to.  They're going to keep squeezing you until you've bled dry because they know you're a bunch of suckers.  I'm not trying to be rude but you can't argue here that you're not when you complain about 8c commissions and still stay.  And what's worse about people staying is that it brings down commissions in the entire industry over time.  8c!!!  Give them the flick already, Jesus!

That makes me so mad, but not just with them, with you and your tolerance for it!

Wow. I wish you'd harness some of that passion and start up a company that pays us better. I dropped the crown 1 Feb, and I'm still trying to get things online elsewhere. This is not my only job, and I'm going as fast as I can. Believe me, there's nothing at all I'd like better than to have better alternatives . . . but in the meantime, I still have bills to pay and iStock isn't making me a lot, but I can't turn it down just this second.

I'll be the first to admit: when they started all their baloney with the PP so long ago, I fought hard against that because I thought there was a battle to be won by the contributors. I never dreamed that the canister thing, the RC thing, the Agency thing and now the fraud would follow within two years and bring the site so far down. In 2007, I was able to pay my house payment with my monthly earnings (on less than 300 images). I foresaw dilution and increased competition, but I never in a million years saw it coming to this. And it's * hard to get everything placed with other agencies.

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Well, this has been good for my sanity. I felt the world's biggest doofus, for not being able to log in to upload today. I simply cannot get it. I had to send a ticket . . .  :( Feel like a complete noob.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: IS hits rock bottom
« on: March 28, 2011, 18:49 »
I had about 10 downloads today most of which were 16 cents to 25 cents.  What ever happened to 2-3 buck dl's? Geeze.

That was my question . . . I used to get mostly medium sales, some large, some small and xs. I bet I might have gotten a handful of large downloads in the last month. It seems almost everything is small and smaller.  With prices as they are though, I guess I can't blame the buyers :/

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: IS hits rock bottom
« on: March 28, 2011, 18:06 »
Without the PP, I'd not clear $100 per month now.
As an exclusive, I was clearing about $500 per month.
To be honest , a lot of remaining exclusives are also dropping $$ and dl, though not quite that much - yet.

My numbers were dropping like a stone before the crown fell off, but now things are just BLEAK. I'm uploading and taking photos, but it's slow. And since iStock income is so bad, I keep having to stop and take other gigs that don't pay jack but at least it's something. Screwed either way :/

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: IS hits rock bottom
« on: March 28, 2011, 15:06 »
Ugh. I'm having a hell of a time adjusting to my new fancy 23 cent royalties for XS :( You know it's bad when you can't tell by looking at the balance if you've had sales or not.

And yes, that * partner program. I'm thoroughly against it, always have been, but man, would I love to make more than a buck or two a day again :( 

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sees the slider is gone very soon. good riddance. I agree most people probably didn't even know about it. March isn't great here either.

I still wouldn't have known about it without reading the forums. It's hard to adjust something that is hidden away. I cannot understand the logic there.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: Blast from the past
« on: March 28, 2011, 00:25 »
Yeah, I tried to look up something on the forums that i remembered reading a long while ago . . . anyway, spent about an hour re-reading old (fun, happy) threads from 2006 & 2007. Made me smile to read them . . . then made me sad at how far gone they are.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: Istock marketing fail
« on: March 25, 2011, 12:00 »
The question is: does that change things for us for the better or for the worse (or for no change at all)?

Probably the worse, since anyone buying it would want to find ways of squeezing even more out of it.
Blah, you h*ckers are bleak :D I keep hoping some well-funded philanthropist will buy the company as a way of funding a bunch of artists, reverse the royalties to 80% us and 20% agency, incorporate "Free Pizza Fridays," and start giving us paid vacations.  Don't tell me it'll never happen -- it's nice in my world ;)
I'd have to agree with Trousers.
"Better the devil you know"
So we're already in stock hell, then?

Ha. I'd certainly say so.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: Istock marketing fail
« on: March 23, 2011, 20:14 »
The question is: does that change things for us for the better or for the worse (or for no change at all)?

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: Anyone cancel exclusive contract yet?
« on: March 23, 2011, 12:54 »
Well, it was at least true for a while. I was in the same situation and have cashed out. Of course, I guess in these times-o-the-negative-balance, nothing is forever.  But at least I've had the money for a little bit!

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: Istock F5 epic fail
« on: March 19, 2011, 09:59 »
The search is randomly throwing up nil results. (i.e. sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't.
E.g. I searched on 'duck' and changed best match to Age.
No results "Tell us more".
Started again, duck, best match.
Clicked on photos, no results, "Tell us more".
This doesn't always happen. It was happening apparently randomly last night and that one gain this morning.
I think I've read somewhere that a random problem is more worrying (harder to nail down and fix) than a replicable problem.
Maybe there's a random 'piss off the customers' feature thrown in to the algorithm.
Well, the random "piss off the customer" feature should be very easy. We've had 2 years of beta testing on continual "piss off the contributor" feature :D

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: Istock F5 epic fail
« on: March 18, 2011, 21:06 »
http://www.istockphoto.com/forum_messages.php?threadid=314342&messageid=6107312

JJ is writing and promises to post about the search issue. I am (literally) holding my breath. I so look forward to his posts :)


Me too. When JJ posts I always touch my monitor, just to feel the warmth of his sincerity.


I just touch myself. Oops did I say that out loud.


Hahahahahha :D

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: Istock F5 epic fail
« on: March 16, 2011, 21:43 »
http://www.istockphoto.com/forum_messages.php?threadid=314342&messageid=6107482

JJ's message. I'm sorry, but didn't it basically just say, "Trust me" ??? I really don't see anything different.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: Istock F5 epic fail
« on: March 16, 2011, 21:35 »
Yep they Banned Curt Pickens. Yep thats me !! Oh well. Sometimes the truth hurts. I need a break from that caompany anyhow. Now to do more research on other sites.

So, you're Curt? If so I was enjoying your posts . . .

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: Istock F5 epic fail
« on: March 16, 2011, 21:20 »
http://www.istockphoto.com/forum_messages.php?threadid=314342&messageid=6107312

JJ is writing and promises to post about the search issue. I am (literally) holding my breath. I so look forward to his posts :)

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Frick! Curt_Pickens just nailed their asses to the wall and JJ actually responded, with a warning. But * if I got it copy/pasted in time. Now it too is gone.

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Now we need a campaign to get jsnover in on that call, get them to admit how the voting went!

While I completely agree I would have liked to see her on that call, I think it is a waste of time to campaign for her.  Our time would be better spent organizing an audit.  The whole phone call thing is an intentional distraction.

I think that's absolutely right. Because now there are apparently more than 5, according to Andrew? Typical istock, just make the crap up as they go along.

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There was a post asking if the votes would be posted for us to see, and wondering why jsnover wasn't one of the 5.

A post that has gone mysteriously absent. Hmmmm.

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LeggNet is in.

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Great post by Lisa on this page http://www.istockphoto.com/forum_messages.php?threadid=313542&page=29


Yep. Give em hell, Harry Lisa!


my thoughts exactly!  And Kris' reply to Lisa to not make it personal kind of pisses me off.  He made it personal when he put his post in LARGE font and basically said that all independents have no integrity and could easily be bought.  Give me a break.  what's to say that an istock exclusive can't be bought for their "inside" information as well?  


That's Kris Hanke for you. His standard forum MO. He's been shut down in the forums multiple times, I believe, for just those same type of attacks.

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Too funny that rogermexico is now talking about more contributor panels. The talk of class action lawsuits and audits in particular must have them running scared. Clearly they have something to hide. If I were a contributor I would not be mollified by these empty attempts to placate. They have the forums for to communicate with contributors, why do they suddenly need contributor panels? This just means more and more critics are going to have to sign NDAs. And how is anyone even going to know what they are being told is the truth.

You guys need to go for the jugular and follow through on the threats to get any real action. I bet an audit would show some really interesting things...

The audit is what I really want.  If they want to have panels, then fine -- I think those are helpful, especially with regard to site functionality. Ideally, the panels would be composed of buyers and contributors (a unique and unheard of concept, I'm sure ;).  But as far as the fraud, yeah . . . I'm interested in getting Sean's et al impression of the plans, but what about the money problems of the last 6 months? We need an independent audit, just so we have a good place to start over again.

But according to iStock, they already do extensive research with regards to site functionality and other features, right? According to them, in the whole course of implementing the new F5 designers, users, and contributors (?) were consulted on the new design and asked to test the new features. Or was that a lie too?

well, it was either an outright lie or their "research" isn't worth squat. The site absolutely sucks. I don't know anyone who wouldn't have had problems.

What I really really don't want to see is a figurehead "panel" that has no real input, or the input they give is wholly disregarded. Otherwise, it's just busywork.  And I don't know anyone who needs more to do just to waste time.

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Too funny that rogermexico is now talking about more contributor panels. The talk of class action lawsuits and audits in particular must have them running scared. Clearly they have something to hide. If I were a contributor I would not be mollified by these empty attempts to placate. They have the forums for to communicate with contributors, why do they suddenly need contributor panels? This just means more and more critics are going to have to sign NDAs. And how is anyone even going to know what they are being told is the truth.

You guys need to go for the jugular and follow through on the threats to get any real action. I bet an audit would show some really interesting things...

The audit is what I really want.  If they want to have panels, then fine -- I think those are helpful, especially with regard to site functionality. Ideally, the panels would be composed of buyers and contributors (a unique and unheard of concept, I'm sure ;).  But as far as the fraud, yeah . . . I'm interested in getting Sean's et al impression of the plans, but what about the money problems of the last 6 months? We need an independent audit, just so we have a good place to start over again.

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Couldnt care one iota. Just want the site to get back to normal again without hickups and bugs. Oh yes, Im going to as Ingemar Kamprad, the owner of IKEA if he wants to buy IS, everything would be working in five minutes flat and he only lives a few kilometers from me.
Site would look a lot nicer too ;)  Ask him :D

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