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« on: January 14, 2013, 19:34 »
^ where did I say I want to go it alone? nowhere.
I think it's bad for all concerned to go off half-cocked. I'm simply expressing that concern. I care very much about our community and that something like this be handled carefully and in the best interest of our industry. I won't participate in an angry mob, though I don't for a moment question the anger and frustration.
anyways, I knew what to expect posting here and I rarely bother anymore. but a lot of people read here who don't post and it bears representing that many of us are awaiting an answer before making concrete decisions. if someone else finds that helpful, there it is.
If you want to wait for concrete answers, that's your choice. The deal is already done. The damage is already done, and no one asked contributors for their permission. There is lots of planning and strategy going on, you just need to read through several threads to get the answers. As far as half-cocked...THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON FROM ISTOCKGETTY FOR YEARS! People have had PLENTY of time to weigh their choices and make a decision. This is more like the final straw for some. For me and some others, that happened last year.
What concrete answers? The type of answers we got in Sep 2010? That money doesn't make us happy? I'd say I can't believe how incredibly naive some people are, but I suspect you're paid for to stir sh!t up here. Divide and conquer, it's worked for 2k years. People stick together this time, let's bring this monster down! Enough of exploitation!
Was this directed at Cathy? Because you were quoting her, and think you may have not been talking to her...?
Of course not! SNP. Sorry for not being absolutely clear. ETA: wow now I see how my post is confusing; I used Cathy's phrase "concrete answers". But I quoted a few of SNP's post, always strongly disagreeing with her
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« on: January 14, 2013, 19:28 »
^ where did I say I want to go it alone? nowhere.
I think it's bad for all concerned to go off half-cocked. I'm simply expressing that concern. I care very much about our community and that something like this be handled carefully and in the best interest of our industry. I won't participate in an angry mob, though I don't for a moment question the anger and frustration.
anyways, I knew what to expect posting here and I rarely bother anymore. but a lot of people read here who don't post and it bears representing that many of us are awaiting an answer before making concrete decisions. if someone else finds that helpful, there it is.
We have the proof that Getty, from their own admittance, have willfully destroy the value of 6,000+ images. What part of "free image = a worthless one" don't you understand. We did get an answer, which they said they will continue on doing so.....How would you like to wake up tomorrow morning with a worthless portfolio after you find out that all your images are being distributed for free by such powerhouse as Google. They did say they have several similar deals going on....but they will not let us know what it is?.....I wonder why?
The indirect damage is huge as it is, without any further steals deals. If it's free, it doesn't matter whether an image is perfect, it's good enough for most people if it's close enough to what they're looking for. With 6000+ images you cover all the subjects pretty well with people being satisfied with close enough images, as long as they're free.
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« on: January 14, 2013, 19:23 »
^ where did I say I want to go it alone? nowhere.
I think it's bad for all concerned to go off half-cocked. I'm simply expressing that concern. I care very much about our community and that something like this be handled carefully and in the best interest of our industry. I won't participate in an angry mob, though I don't for a moment question the anger and frustration.
anyways, I knew what to expect posting here and I rarely bother anymore. but a lot of people read here who don't post and it bears representing that many of us are awaiting an answer before making concrete decisions. if someone else finds that helpful, there it is.
If you want to wait for concrete answers, that's your choice. The deal is already done. The damage is already done, and no one asked contributors for their permission. There is lots of planning and strategy going on, you just need to read through several threads to get the answers. As far as half-cocked...THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON FROM ISTOCKGETTY FOR YEARS! People have had PLENTY of time to weigh their choices and make a decision. This is more like the final straw for some. For me and some others, that happened last year.
What concrete answers? The type of answers we got in Sep 2010? That money doesn't make us happy? I'd say I can't believe how incredibly naive some people are, but I suspect you're paid for to stir sh!t up here. Divide and conquer, it's worked for 2k years. People stick together this time, let's bring this monster down! Enough of exploitation!
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« on: January 14, 2013, 17:20 »
you're not only affecting yourselves by 'notifying' the design community, you're affecting all of us. sure, go out into the world and libel a company in a rant.
an organized community-driven, well-led business plan is one thing.....the way some of you are approaching this is absurd. that you will simply run out into the street and shout out your anger so haphazardly is as much a red flag to me as Getty's greed and lack of concern for contributors.
If it is so absurd as you think why iStock forum thread entiltled "Google Stealing Images or Another Deal" followed by another thread entitled "Google Drive + update" totalling 54 pages of angry members, have not been deleted and still going strong without any intervention from iStock to stop it?
I didn't say the concern is absurd. and I'm certainly not going to get into a forum p*ssing contest over here. it is those types of comments, and writing letters, posting here and there and everywhere--carpet bombing tactics that I think are absurd at this point.
please don't speak for "all of us" because you're not speaking for all of us. I'll speak for myself thanks.
We wouldn't expect anything more from someone working for free for the Getty empire  . You're a loyal servant, I hope you get rewarded somehow
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« on: January 14, 2013, 17:17 »
What's the point of deactivating just a few? Deactivate all, for maximum impact, it's still gonna be just a fraction of the library anyway. You're deactivating, not deleting files! Meaning they're right back online if you want them to be. So there's no point in holding back, contemplating strategies (Lisa explained well comparing it to a hostage situation). But as we now know, it makes no sense, it's not logical since, the number of deactivated files is still going to be negligible, but hopefully enough for those greedy bas.tards to notice
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« on: January 14, 2013, 11:10 »
I've deactivated my best 100. Don't see much point in deactivating the low sellers first, as that helps istock.
Indeed, people with thousands of images deleting their bottom 10% makes no sense at all, it doesn't hurt them, you actually make them a favour since you're taking the garbage out. Now deleting all your flamed images, that would send a message. Sean made this nice script, but did he, in fact, deleted any files himself? I hope he did or at least plans to, making a script and using it, would really send a strong message, especially since he's #4 at IS
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« on: January 12, 2013, 19:00 »
Sales are half of what they used to be, contrary to my top 3 earners, the rest don't really matter. And I'm getting 10% less in royalties than last year on top of that (I'm at 45%). I'm thinking of closing my account, after all, I've stopped uploading a while ago and now I'm getting more refunds every month that I've gotten on all other sites combined in 3 years :O
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« on: January 12, 2013, 07:22 »
DP are my "volume dealers". They accept 95% of my submissions. The only way you're going to make decent payout frequency with middle tier agencies is with high volume.
DP is far more lenient than DT or 123RF. I have twice as many images thus I make twice as much coin. I've always felt rejections have a positive side in that it makes you try harder and improve your skills. Shutterstock and IStock keep me striving which serves DP with on-going improved submissions.
Well, here's my AR: Uploads in this month: 0 Acceptance ratio: 98.55% But as you can see, also no ULs this month. I haven't been ULing there for almost a year. They're such a low volume, rock bottom price dealers for me. It's just not worth my time.
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« on: January 12, 2013, 07:18 »
jsnover: I got a dozen or so in the last couple of months. Yeah they replied afterwards that it was a 2012 sale. I replied with my thoughts and also added what contributors really thought of them (promising no cuts, but then implementing them anyway) and that I'm gonna delete my acc unless they sort it out. And of course that I haven't been uploading for months and really am just a step away to do so, since earnings at 123RF are negligible. They're not really negligible, but still, only 5% of my total earnings, I could live without it klsbear: They're helpful until you're not too honest wth them 
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« on: January 11, 2013, 11:37 »
Not a dam*n thing
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« on: January 11, 2013, 11:28 »
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« on: January 11, 2013, 10:58 »
I got payed 1.38$, what about that?!? 
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« on: January 11, 2013, 10:33 »
Are you getting them too? I got lots of them in the last couple of month. What's worse, they're deducting more than I got in fact payed, 36c instead of 32.
On top of the fact that I never ever, never ever ever got a sub sale refunded. It makes no sense whatsoever for a buyer to do it, since they get to DL a ton of images/month anyway.
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