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Adobe Stock / Re: Fotolia is my best seller this month
« on: July 23, 2014, 07:48 »
@Deyan Georgiev
If you do not have more subscription sales, why are you on DPC then?

You are willing to risk to jeopardize your earning elsewhere when you don't see increase of subscription sales in Fotolia.
For what? the tiny 5% difference? And yes, that was actually offered too because of the protest.

I am not reproaching anyone here, it just make no sense in my mind...

Oh and about the 75 % that are still on DPC, well, the majority doesn't actually have a clue about it. Fotolia never informed anyone that they were taking all the images and putting them automatically on other site, with different selling prices/packs.

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Adobe Stock / Re: Fotolia is my best seller this month
« on: July 22, 2014, 13:57 »
Those who are opt in on DPC, they say:

we need time to figure out of DPC is hurting our sells on other sites or not.

But they don't have a clue of where the sells come from on their list of sold images, either from Fotolia and DPC.

then they see less ODDs on Shutterstock and say that there is no proof that DPC is responsible for that loss.

then they see a day with more ODD and SOD and post "oh see? see? that'a proof that DPC is not hurting our sells"

How can they possibly guess, if in one day they have 100 subs + 7 ODDs, that in reality they could have 110 subs + 10 ODDs if they weren't on DPC..

I would like them to explain, how possibly can they prove/know for sure, in a year from now, that their sells were/are not being affected by DPC.

Because I must be really dumb, but I can't see a way to realize that.




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Adobe Stock / Re: Fotolia D-Day (Deactivation Day) - May,1
« on: June 18, 2014, 08:14 »
ss should sand a very polite e mail to  contributors opted in and ask them... very very politely - to opt out

Yes, something like that. I think if they would send an email just informing of the issue, at least most of the contributors (those reading the email) would be aware of it. The big problem is that most of the contributors just don't know. Certainly SS do not want to 'declare a war', but they really should do something before it's too late.


IMHO, others that do know and still opt in are just not being intelligent. Sorry but that's my perception.


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Adobe Stock / Re: Fotolia D-Day (Deactivation Day) - May,1
« on: June 16, 2014, 08:42 »
like image exclusivity,
and massive advertising on Facebook (DPC has 73 000 likes, Shutterstock has 195 000 - isn't worrying?)

I don't know, I am not paid to think about it... They must know better than me what could be done to refrain them...

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Adobe Stock / Re: Fotolia D-Day (Deactivation Day) - May,1
« on: June 16, 2014, 08:21 »
1 hour ago, I was on the tablet, and I saw an advertisement on a link on Facebook for DPC for a free trial for the 10 images.

I am a little bit worried about the massive advertisement DPC is making. I really wish Shutterstock would make something about it.

Oh and I don't know if it's the problem of the last months, (I only joined shutterstock in july 2013 and can't see any pattern), but I am definitely seeing a decrease of ODD comparing with the number of subs.

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If you have talent and are dedicated, if you are smart, and if you have pacience, it is possible.

work, strategies, time.

I think this is not for everyone.



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"You know nothing...
With $500/month you would NOT live well in Latin America. You would be very poor!"


Luckily for you, you seem to not have the notions of what it means to live very poor...

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Adobe Stock / Re: Fotolia D-Day (Deactivation Day) - May,1
« on: June 09, 2014, 20:10 »
I made a search on DPC with some specific words "beard hipster drawing" and made the same search on Shutterstock. There is a huge difference between them in terms of quality and quantity.

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Adobe Stock / Re: Fotolia D-Day (Deactivation Day) - May,1
« on: May 17, 2014, 13:13 »
I have been searching for 'vector' on DPC everyday and until now, the number of files is always decreasing.  :)

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Adobe Stock / Re: Fotolia D-Day (Deactivation Day) - May,1
« on: May 16, 2014, 12:40 »
They must be laughing so hard right now....  :P

I dont know about that. It is still early days and as they say "he who laughs last laughs longest".

As Ron said, let us not comment about anyone's decision to remain in DPC. Let us hope for the best as we create more DPC awareness and hopefully more OPT OUTs.

Yeah I know but I am just in shock right now... I think people need to think and to remain strong and together. At least I hoped they would.
As I said before, the opt out and the increase where achieved thanks to those who fought.

Anyway, my work will be on Shutterstock from now on... No yes-i-accept-whatever-you-do-with-my-work for me.

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Adobe Stock / Re: Fotolia D-Day (Deactivation Day) - May,1
« on: May 16, 2014, 12:22 »
They must be laughing so hard right now....  :P

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Adobe Stock / Re: Fotolia D-Day (Deactivation Day) - May,1
« on: May 16, 2014, 12:08 »
I see some contributors opted in to DPC, like ****

not very clever...
what people do for a 5% commission... 
 ::)
In some months don't come back mourning about your drop of On Demands on Shutterstock.

admin edit: name removed. this shouldn't be a witch hunt.  let people decide to do what they please. 

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Adobe Stock / Re: Fotolia D-Day (Deactivation Day) - May,1
« on: May 15, 2014, 14:06 »
We need anther Opt Out Day Promotion to keep the momentum

The momentum is already dead. Stats for today show an increase in the number of images at DPC. About 27,000 were removed while 30,000 were added.

I'm all for as many opt-outs as possible, but it's just not going to do anything in the end. It's a losing battle. We're working against people opting back in and people already opted in who are uploading more to Fotolia. Opt-outs will never be enough to counteract the uploads and opt-ins.

Opt-out, and tell whoever you know to opt out as well. But let's be realistic here and recognize that opt-outs aren't going to get anything done. If anyone really believes that DPC can be stopped, then there needs to be a new strategy to make that happen. The current one isn't going to get there.

Raise Your Head, a lot was achieved in 2 weeks and a lot more can be achieved. I was able to reach one more contributor today, he didn't know at all. More will see these treads in the following days, as the majority don't visit the forums everyday.
They could win the battle today  but they will lose the war.

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Adobe Stock / Re: Fotolia D-Day (Deactivation Day) - May,1
« on: May 15, 2014, 07:49 »
I'm seeing endless DPC ads on Facebook. They must be spending a small fortune on advertising. FT are clearly putting everything they've got behind this initiative....

When I see the advertising, I click on it, for them to spend money for nothing. (They pay for each click)

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Adobe Stock / Re: Fotolia D-Day (Deactivation Day) - May,1
« on: May 15, 2014, 07:20 »
So, I am a potencial client.

I look on the Shutterstock library for something very specific.
I find the perfect image. So, a pack for 5 images: $49.
"Yeah, but let me just check if that image is on DPC"
...
"oh, yes it is! Sweet"
So that's 10 images for $10.

You are that contributor, now do some maths, it's not that complicated... do you still think it is a mistake to opt out?

What you think you will earn more in Fotolia, you will lose 10 times on the other places.

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Adobe Stock / Re: Fotolia D-Day (Deactivation Day) - May,1
« on: May 14, 2014, 15:39 »
I just only like to remember to all the contributors that argued against this boycott, that diminished it in some sort, that Fotolia offered an opt out from DPC, and are increasing the laughable commissions thanks to those who fought.


That's all I have to say, back to work now.

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Adobe Stock / Re: Fotolia D-Day (Deactivation Day) - May,1
« on: May 14, 2014, 12:50 »
Oleg Tscheltzoff's on Graphic Design USA Magazine

http://blog.gdusa.com/the-next-step-in-simple/#more

"The next step in simple, says stock industry veteran and serial entrepreneur Oleg Tscheltzoff, is the Dollar Photo Club. In an interview with GDUSA, it became clear that Tscheltzoff has thought long and hard about how to eliminate the last obstacles to easy image access. Honing in on the values of simplicity, predictability, and efficiency, he explains: Customers are tangled up in plans they dont need, use, or even understand.

Pricing structures have become an unruly mess that needs to be scaled back and simplified for the benefit of customers not for companies and shareholders (do you see any reference to us here?  ::) )

So weve created Dollar Photo Club, which gets right to the point, offering straightforward access to over 25 million professional images for $1 each, at one low monthly fee.

Dollar Photo Club customers pay only for what they use, nothing more, and always just $1.
...
"The bottomline, he says, is that simplifying the price will be a significant time-saver, since it eliminates shopping for price on traditional sites, does not require signing up for large plans with lots of credits or downloads. "

They were supposed to represent OUR interests, to be a sort of agency. Shame on them.


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Well, thats quite an achievement then. I am glad you are not a photographer, otherwise my self confidence would have hit an all time low  ;)

PS: How many vectors are in your port if you dont mind me asking?

I have a total of 2400 images (400 are vectors) - approximately.
I work 12-14 hours per day, monday to sunday.

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10k in your first year at SS?  You have a port to start with which makes $850 on average from the start?

Sorry off topic. I am just skeptical about such claims.

First month (July 2013) I made $30, in April (last month) I made $1400.
And don't ask to see my portfolio. The reality is I am not here to prove anything and I am not here looking for copy-cats.
What I can tell is I mainly make 3d render and vectors. I try to make the best quality I can. I think it is the best way to compete. And I believe I can improve even more...


I can only admire your hardwork and your results :)

Thank you  :)


The combined increase in commissions and in additional sales from the added source of DPC if you make the choice to opt in I predict will blow your mind. 

....

Fotolia is going the other direction
....

That was a very good laugh, thank you.  ;D


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...
I was only with Shutterstock since July 2013. I work hard and I am already on the 0.33 club. I think I will be in the .38 club by July 2014.
...

Sometimes I read that it is impossible to earn a good amount starting now in the microstock industry. They say it is too late. Well, I know it is not true. And I think that if we all opt out from DPC, the future is still good. Don't be fooled by the apocalypse theory, don't let them be successful on making this business a short term thing. Don't prostitute yourself for 5%.
...

Very nice to hear what you have said above !

:) I am at the .36 club, I edited my post. I wrote it bad.

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I Joined Fotolia 1 month ago.
I was only with Shutterstock since July 2013. I work hard and I am already on the 0.36 club. I think I will be in the .38 club by July 2014.
I heard it would be good to be on more than one site, so I decided to try Dreamtime and Fotolia.
I actually liked Fotolia, they were really fast reviewing my illustrations, they accepted 99 % of my stuff.
I opt out from DPC. I didn't liked at all this story. I earn a lot with my On Demands on Shutterstock and don't want to compete with myself and put our future earnings in serious risk.

I was looking at my earnings during this month and realized it is not worth the effort to submit to Fotolia or Dreamtime in my case. The time I spent submitting there (17 days, their submit process is really a pain), if I was making new work for Shutterstock alone, I would be earning more with those images than I earn in Fotolia/Dreamstime together.

Well, and then I just read the '5% - 8%' commission thing and the 'oh-now-we-offer-you-a-fantastic-raise-to-20%/25%'

They are so generous with the people who create the images. I wonder what would those company be without our images.

I think they are PARASITES.

How in earth they still have people willing to opt in on DPC is beyond my reasoning.

Sometimes I read that it is impossible to earn a good amount starting now in the microstock industry. They say it is too late. Well, I know it is not true. And I think that if we all opt out from DPC, the future is still good. Don't be fooled by the apocalypse theory, don't let them be successful on making this business a short term thing. Don't prostitute yourself for 5%.

I will leave for now my images on Fotolia, and will not submit one more image. I will center all my work in Shutterstock. Maybe wil try Symbiostock and Stocksy in the future.

I am tired of dishonest people...
 

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