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Mostphotos.com / Re: voting system reaching annoying point
« on: January 18, 2008, 14:37 »
Take some time and read in the site forum in some threads where the admins explains a little how their system works and you will be less worried about the voting system. They claim to have built a very smart and advanced system that deals with these issues. Abusers will be automatically punished by the system. Their votes will not count for much and their own picture's rating will also suffer from it. The voting doesn't really count for much  in the end either. Relevant keywords, view and sales have a much greater impact acording to admins.  So there is really no use in retaliation. None of my sold images have had very high votes. I don't really care if someone doesn't like a picture of mine. Different people have different taste, and so does the buyers. What some hate, others love....

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General Stock Discussion / Re: Mostphotos.com watermark
« on: January 18, 2008, 11:18 »
Relax people.....  8)
MP has been "on the photographers side" ever since I joined them a year ago, and I highly doubt they would take away the watermarks since the wast majority of the photographers think it is a serious issue. I think they just want to hear opinions and suggestion on how to handle the problem. Right Arian? :)

I think Leaf has a VERY GOOD suggestion on how to solve the problem with the watermark-haters. A well planned premium package would also sell more images I think.

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Mostphotos.com / Re: Most photos - new "midstock" site!
« on: January 17, 2008, 16:06 »
Maybe the could simply change it to "exclusive buyout"
Regards,
Adelaide

I just thought the same thing.
Good thinking batman! :)

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Mostphotos.com / Re: Most photos - new "midstock" site!
« on: January 17, 2008, 15:15 »
Ok!

I think the confusion is because the word "Exclusive" has two different meanings depending on whether you are a photo buyer or seller.
 

The term is on Mostphotos mainly towards the buyers perspective. I think that when a buyer discovers the term exclusive on the site he/she automatically relates to that if he/her buys that particular photo, then it is only he/she in the world that has it.

But anyways I am very very open for more suggestions to other terms that we can replace "Exclusive" with.

Arian

I agree that "exclusive" is a bad term to use since sites like Istock and others has branded the term as something completely different. It is bound to confuse photographers (and some buyers) Cannot come up with a good catchy alternative though...hmmm
Something like "sell the rights" but I guess that one is already taken ;)

I would also suggest to raise the default setting on that license when you upload a picture. DT has $350 as default and that sum raises pretty fast to much more if the images sells a few times. I know it doesn't matter since you can set your own price but I think it is more fair the the newbies who maybe doesn't know how much a sell the rights price should be. 50 Euro is definitely too low to start with for a exclusive image that you cannot sell again.


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Mostphotos.com / Re: Most photos - new "midstock" site!
« on: January 16, 2008, 15:47 »
The royalty free images have a fixed price at 25 Euro at Most Photos.


What are the license restrictions compared to microstock? 

Regards,
Adelaide


Here is a link to the terms of use for buyers:
http://www.mostphotos.com/termsofusebuyers.php

I think it is similar to microstock?
That is something I have been wondering about too but haven't been bothered to look into it.
Im gonna send a mail to the staff and maybe they will come here and explain it to people like me who fall asleep when reading legal texts :)

I'm gonna

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Mostphotos.com / Re: Most photos - new "midstock" site!
« on: January 16, 2008, 11:50 »
Ok, so as step 1 I decided to register and look around. Guess what? I filled out a form with info/login/etcetera, then went to login... and I can't. The system doesn't recognize me, and then I tried to reset the password, entered my email address, got a message that says that an email has been sent... no email. Hello? Help?

Hehe.. well, that might be it for me & MP for now :)

Try an e-mail to support.
They are usually reply pretty fast.

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Mostphotos.com / Re: Most photos - new "midstock" site!
« on: January 10, 2008, 12:17 »
I've started to upload there. All my images price is 50 euros. I've tried to change it (I think 50 is too much) but I cannot. 
Any idea ?
Thanks

Hmm that sounds strange....
The royalty free images have a fixed price at 25 Euro at Most Photos.
You must have ticked the "exclusive box" when  you uploaded the image. The price is then by default 50 Euro or whatever you fill in the price field.
"Exclusive" at Most Photos means that you can only sell the image there and it can only be sold once. Therefore you should set the price way higher than 50 Euro if you choose that option.
I think the fixed 25 euro is just about he right price for a royalty free image. Due to the "no reviewer approach" buyers will find many unique images on MP that they will not find on the big 5 micros and that is something many buyers really appretiate according to the site staff.

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SnapVillage.com / Re: opted out here too
« on: January 08, 2008, 16:09 »
I wrote this in another thread but I guess I should repeat it here....

Note that the opt out option only affects future uploads!
Previous uploaded images must be manually changed one by one.
I got this reply from SV support:



"Thank you for contacting SnapVillage.

Please note that the default price setting only effects future uploads, not your published images.  If you changed your default price setting to not allow subscription downloads, this will not affect the images already in your portfolio. To change the price option of images currently in your portfolio, you will need to change the price of each image individually. You can do this on the 'published' page of your 'my portfolio'.

The missing 2007 royalty statement is a display issue only. We still have records of your 2007 royalty earnings. We will be paying all outstanding 2007 royalties in the next week or so. We realize that contributors still need access to these records. This is a site error caused by the changing year. We are working to fix it ASAP.

Our apologies for the inconvenience and worry this must have caused you. Please let us know if you have any further questions or concerns."

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Remember that you can also opt out on sub. on Snapvillage if you are a member there.
Please note that you will have to change every image already uploaded there manually if you uploaded them with subscription on.
If  this list continue to grow I think we have something going on here.

I just looked and I opted out of subscriptions with SV.  I think this applies to all images, as I can't see any options to stop subscriptions on individual images.

I mailed SV support since one of my images sold as sub. even though I have opted out. They replied that this only affect future uploads.
All previous uploads must be change manually.

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SnapVillage.com / Re: opted out here too
« on: January 08, 2008, 01:27 »
Me too, and I have already seen results. Before I had only sub. sales, and now I have had the equal amount of sales with standard pricing instead.

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Updated the list with picture count...

Remember that you can also opt out on sub. on Snapvillage if you are a member there.
Please note that you will have to change every image already uploaded there manually if you uploaded them with subscription on.
If  this list continue to grow I think we have something going on here.

I enough people and bigger players in this game would sign this list, wouldn't that be enough to at least make the agenices that doesn't allow opt out think again? If we could present a substantial list of people with well argued demands to these agencies, wouldn't that at least make them listen to us? One can at least hope. At least it would make an impression, that we photographers can unite strong against something that we find unfair and damaging to our (and their) buisness.


Yuri Arcurs
Freezingpictures
GeoPappas
Smithore (596)
rene
sharpshot (2756)
ldambies
epixx
latex
FlemishDreams.
RTimages
Vonkara
helix7
Travelling-light
Mjp
northflyboy
ason
sorsillo (538)
boatman
Alex
Eco
Rozmaryna (68)
Pixelbrat
Read_My_Rights (277)
vphoto
faber (300)
dbvirago
cmcderm1
boryak
HughStoneIan
digiology
moori (1060)
pixart
fauxware
rosendo  (313)
Lukasphoto
aremafoto (2147)
IKOphotos (1842)
Kiya
erwinova
Velvia
DanP68
Jorgeinthewater

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Opted out at StockXpert
Yuri Arcurs
Freezingpictures
GeoPappas
Smithore
rene
sharpshot
ldambies
epixx
latex
FlemishDreams.
RTimages
Vonkara
helix7
Travelling-light
Mjp
northflyboy
ason
sorsillo
boatman
Alex
Eco
Rozmaryna
Pixelbrat
Read_My_Rights
vphoto
faber
dbvirago
cmcderm1
boryak
HughStoneIan
digiology
moori

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123RF / Re: Impressed (in a modest way)
« on: December 01, 2007, 14:41 »
I am happy with the progress 123rf are making for me. Every month is better than the previous.
The easy upload is also a big +

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Mostphotos.com / Re: Most photos - new "midstock" site!
« on: December 01, 2007, 11:07 »
the users there are friendly... you can talk if you want.. you dont have to when you dont want... nice community... a little bit swedish style .. often they dont understand my German humor.. but its ok for me.. i love this side


Haha that sound like us Swedes.
We don't get German jokes  ??? ;D
We also like to be a little quiet and gentle and try not to stand out from the crowd too much  :D
One of the basic "unwritten cultural rules" in Sweden is quite interesting. It is called "jantelagen" and it is basically:
"It is ok to be good at something, but it is not ok to brag about it. You should never think/say that you are better or more successful than someone else. The best thing to be is average, like everone else."
It is amazing we win things in the Olympics with that attitude  ::)

Since I started this thread with my ref.link, I have had quite a few referrals signing up referring to my nick.
That is great!! , but what is even more great is that I see in my statistics that quite a few of these also started to sell images.


and here is that link again.... http://mostphotos.com/index.php?referenceid=277   ::)

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Crestock.com / Re: Biggest Photoshop Contest of the Year!
« on: November 22, 2007, 09:38 »
haha  ;D ;D
leaf that was priceless!

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Adobe Stock / Re: search engine fully functional!
« on: November 21, 2007, 18:58 »
That company would regain my respect if they once could say, "hey guys we messed up - the search engine doesn't work properly since V2, but we will fix it." Now it's just complete denial. Every other day users report in the site forum that the search engine is broken but all we hear from admins and people in charge is THERE IS NO PROBLEM.
I'm sick of it.
I sell a couple of images every day there but it is with a few exeption only old images uploaded prior to V2. (And yes I have reordered my keyword so the most relevant are in the top 7) The sales have gone up the last couple of weeks, but I could only imagine what the stats would look like if the customers would be able to find all my images and not just a small percentage. If I can't find them (and I at least know what keywords I have ) how could they?.....

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Shutterstock.com / shutterstock review time
« on: November 20, 2007, 11:29 »
Is it just me or have Shutterstock slowed down the review time a lot lately??
It's like 4-5 days for me now.  Not a lot but it feels like ages when you are used to 1/2-1 day. :)

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Mostphotos.com / Re: Most photos - new "midstock" site!
« on: November 20, 2007, 11:26 »
I also had another sale yesterday. Not a "high rater" this time either :)
12,5 royalty.
I hope this is a start of a daily trend. :)

http://www.mostphotos.com/moori

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Off Topic / Re: microstock earnings => Microloan 'investment'
« on: November 15, 2007, 19:22 »
Thanks for the link Leaf!
I really like the concept

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Mostphotos.com / Re: Most photos - new "midstock" site!
« on: November 08, 2007, 18:36 »
Congrats on the sale XeniaII! =) I am not surprised at all. You have loads and loads of great model shots.
Things seems to start moving now. I've read more posts about sales. Hopefully my christmas themed images will start to move soon too. :)

What is it that you don't like about the new system?
I think it is good that they divided the voting into artistic and commerical.
I haven't gotten used to new new design yet and it seems a little slow and buggy at the moment, but they say that they are working on it.
I sure looks nice at least, with the fancy reflections and all :)

By the way, Where do you find all your models XeniaII? Do you hire them or is it friends and family?
I still haven't really gotten brave enough to ask strangers to model for microstock.....


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Mostphotos.com / Re: Most photos - new "midstock" site!
« on: November 06, 2007, 04:30 »
Some of the functions on the site are really sloooooow at the moment. =) The new design and functions came up yesterday and they are busy getting rid of all the initial bugs related to that. I asked in the site forum about the speed issues and the "tekkies" replied that all new hardware is not in place yet. They are installing new servers/hardware today to speed everything up and also add a new optimized search.

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Mostphotos.com / Re: Most photos - new "midstock" site!
« on: October 31, 2007, 03:35 »
Dear Suvakov,
in every agency i sign with im giving a time-credit 3-5 months to see how things are going.
If any agency generate a reasonable number of sales in this period of time im staying with it, elsewhere just going away.
MP is a new agency so it has my credit of time at the moment!
Wish you good luck.

I would say that 3-5 months is a little too tight time schedule to see any large improvement in sales when a site is so recently released. The amount of images are still too small (even though they almost seem to double by the day now) Sales have started to happen but I would wait at least six months before I would make any judgements. We need on the other hand a lot less sales from MP to beat the other micros when it comes to cash return.
I don't expect Snapvillage to produce anything significant in the next 3-5 months either but it might be a winner over a longer period of time.

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Mostphotos.com / Re: Most photos - new "midstock" site!
« on: October 20, 2007, 06:34 »

Watermarks
Watermarking is optional for every individual member and is managed under your Personal Settings in the Controlpanel (once you join in:-)


What I think he ment was that the current optional watermark is a bit too weak. It is too easy to clone out. I agree with that.

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Mostphotos.com / Re: Most photos - new "midstock" site!
« on: October 20, 2007, 05:55 »

I know the quality of photos is subjective but I did a search for "London" and I thought a lot of the photos were poor quality. 

This doesn't surprise me at all. "London" is not really a good reference word. :) Until just recently MostPhotos was a site only for Swedish photographers. International contributors have started to flow in just a few weeks ago. The images in the database is mainly from Swedish photographers and Swedish sites. When the database grows and the international phogs. start upload their London pictures it will be totally different. :)

Another issue for me is the big preview images with no visible watermark.  I refuse to upload to other sites that don't have visible watermarks.

I do like the look of mostphotos and if there was some quality control and watermarks, I would upload some photos there.

The current watermark is something the contributors voted for a while ago.
I agree that this watermark should be revised and I have also started a poll on that issue in the site forum. I am sure MP will listen to the contributors. What's you take on this issue Suvakov?

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Mostphotos.com / Re: Most photos - new "midstock" site!
« on: October 19, 2007, 10:06 »
This whole voting thing is a joke. On iStock there are gangs of people that vote on each other's photos to boost their standing in the search engine. It won't work because people will abuse the system. We proved that voting on images on istock does boost your rating in the best match search.


But does Istocks system deal with that abuse at all? Mostphoto's have thought about this issue and claim that they have built in a control in the system that will reveal cheaters and deal with it.
I have to agree with Radde, you guys are putting way too much focus on the rating system. Look at the other things they are offering you.
Have you even tried the site or are just giving it a pass because of your feelings about a user controlled rating system?
The voting is only a PART of the images MP-index. Sales, views, relevant keywords and many other things are more important in the images total rating.
Feels like Im repeating myself here, dont really know why I put energy in promoting MP.
Hopefully some people use my referral link and make me some bucks.
I have seen in my ref. account that some of the people joining with my ref link have started to make sales.  ;D
I dont really care how they rate their ther images as long as they look out for the photographer and give good cashback.
LO, snapvillage  and the other newbies have a different system and might have good reviewers and all, but they haven't produced any real money for me so far, MP has has. The cashback on every image is WAY higher that the others.
To me THAT's whats important.
Im in the process of quitting a lot of the smaller agencies outside the big 5 at the moment if they don't pick up. It's just not worth the time and efforts. Scand stock, New darkroom and a few other has already been canned and more will go the same way. I will only keep submitting to the agencies that gives good payouts or the ones that I really believe will start to pick up in the year to come. MP is one I'm keeping.

My ref link--> www.mostphotos.com 



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