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« on: November 09, 2009, 04:30 »
Achilles has been answering the subs issue a few times, also on this forum as I remember. It boils down to designers needing a few or many alternative images for a particular design, so that they can present these options without clumsy watermark to the customer. We read before here on this forum how designers hate comps with watermarks. In fact, only one of those images will actually be used, so Achilles pointed out that sub sales are in fact an extra, those are sales that wouldn't have been happened on a credit package (except the image finally chosen of course).
For me "presenting" is a part of his job - so he USES these images (even if only one is a part of final design).
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« on: November 09, 2009, 00:29 »
So it isn't about greedy image hoarders scratching around for bargains, but about some comfort for the designer. Also concerning the max size downloads: imagine you want a crop or a banner out of the image, how can you do that in a credible way for the customer out of a 300px watermarked thumb? Makes you look cheap as designer to the customer. If your webpage is a 800px wide design, you will then have to upsize the thumb to give an idea about the final result, but that might not go well with the customer if he has deeper pockets and if he wants to have a realistic idea of how the result will look like. A designer might try different crops and that doesn't work well from an XS image.
IMO this "comfort' should have higher price than 0.35$. If the designer propose 10 different compositions he earns money thanks to 10 of our images. Why he should only pay for one of them?
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« on: November 07, 2009, 21:23 »
Finally, after 2 weeks of research, I found something I like at DT. Even a photographer without any photo can be favorite for many others. Example : Tangie.
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« on: November 05, 2009, 21:42 »
Anyone knows what they pay? I haven't found any information about commission. Thanks
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« on: November 05, 2009, 21:39 »
I am cutting and pasting this exchange between Achilles and Tonyger from a thread on DT:
TONYGER: Yesterday an image bought at 50 credits only netted me $16.62. I'm not happy about this!
ACHILLES responded: You used to get even up to 80% in real percentage. The client didn't pay $50 for the 50 credits. But let's not get off topic.
Achilles deserves the annual prize for the "man who never responds the question" Tonyger asked why he got only 33% and Achilles talk about 80% of what? Never see 80% commission at DT.
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« on: November 02, 2009, 01:02 »
Average month in $ IS - 45% SS - 21% FT - 20% DT - 8% (WMY - RDP less than 1$) StockXpert - 6% (I opted out sub) BigStock - 0,3% (almost dead) Alamy RF - 0% (for the first time this year, very sad)
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« on: October 31, 2009, 21:10 »
I'm not directly affected by this any more (although I did go to check that my old DT images were still disabled and hadn't somehow been made freebies behind my back)
Strange. You have deleted-disabled your images over one year ago and they are still there? Theses images should be DELETED now. Achilles from Dreamstime said: "5. disabling images not deleting them Contributors may try to delete their whole portfolio after receiving the first refusal they disagree with. Hundreds or thousands of files can go down the drain in a few minutes. Many times contributors re-enable them after they calm down (see your case). Another case is of photographers trying their luck with other partnership (i.e. exclusivity somewhere else). We're obviously not happy to see it, but respect it. The contributors may return sooner or later and many do. If they return after a few months, they can easily re-enable their portfolio. If it's later they need to start from scratch. Final decision is up to contributors, we don't touch those files, they are offline. They are permanently deleted after a few months."
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« on: October 28, 2009, 21:34 »
Donating free images is not good for contributors.
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« on: October 28, 2009, 21:22 »
You can add to this list new "database cleaning" - in the reality they want force us to give them images for free. Diminishing our commission from 50 to 30% was not enough?
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« on: October 25, 2009, 08:24 »
I only 'fix' rejects for IS and only then if I think it has the potential to reasonably sell well __ it's unlikely to be worth the time to do it for any other site. Mostly the 'fix' consists of shrinking it down so it just qualifies for Large size.
Ditto - only for Istock and only downsizing.
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« on: October 22, 2009, 05:15 »
........ so I keep on feeling pretty good about my decision to be an exclusive contributor there.
But how do you feel about those with less sales than you being ranked higher and getting better search placement ... does that feel pretty good?
I think his profile picture might explain how he's feeling if thats the case.
Are you talking about Oleg's shoe?
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« on: October 21, 2009, 23:33 »
I don't see why people that weren't contributing to Fotolia before wouldn't want to now. There is strong momentum with increased visibility in the market and the commission rate for photographers is so much higher than it is at I-stock. Doesn't I-Stock pay somewhere around 20% commissions? At Fotolia I am getting 55% commission and can charge $5 for XS files and $30 for XL if I want to (though I choose the $3-$18 range instead).
It's not true. Fotolia doesn't pay 55% commission to non exclusive so why you compare it to non exclusive commission at IS? And dont forget a footage. Fotolia's deal is the worst in this industry. 3,5$ for HD video! An My earnings (total and per download) are much, much higher at Istock. Talking about porcentage is useless. Only money in my pocket count. And now most important point : I just don't trust Fotolia anymore. They can give something today and take it back tomorrow. They change rules (subscriptions, rankings, commissions...). They take back our money too. Recently they took 400$ from Jason Stitt' account. There is no this kind of problems at Istock. IS is thieves free.
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« on: October 14, 2009, 04:32 »
@ Fotolia Can we (contributors) expect a fair relationship. Without unilateral changes like: - Commition drop - Added new forms of sales without possibility to opt-out - Ranking system changes - Pay 3.5 $ for HD videos (4 times less than the market average) - Try "trap" contributors hiding information (information on subscriptions in the chapters "illustrations" and "videos" is omitted on contributor's page
Why Fotolia has highest number of thiefs - clients with stolen credit cards? And please ask what made Chad Bridel change his mind about subscriptions (few months before subscription's introduction at FT he thought that subscriptions were very bad for long term)
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« on: October 03, 2009, 01:01 »
Nothing. SS and IS are only agencies I like (and trust them). I hope one day Dreamstime and Fotolia learn from Shutterstock how to be contributor friendly, honest and have clear and transparent policies.
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« on: September 28, 2009, 22:01 »
Great idea. Who said we cannot make money at Creastock ?
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« on: September 28, 2009, 21:55 »
I've opt out. Don't like 0.25$ commission for full size images.
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« on: September 28, 2009, 21:37 »
I must admit that they are very inventive at Dreamstime to retrieve more money without further effort. After having introduced enlarged images, familiarized buyers that these images are clearly indicated (this image was upsized) they have removed this information, in silence (old good DT's strategy). How many buyers will be fooled thinking download a big picture? A medium sized photograph may sell for a maximum of credits. Brilliant. Naysayers will say that it is not honest. Legally it is ok, buyers agree conditions when downloading. Otherwise they can buy a pocket calculator and count the total number of pixels and compare it to the original size indicated under the picture. A sale is a sale and more credits are more credits. BTW, I always checked in for monthly newsletter. Never got it. Anyone else in this case?
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« on: September 18, 2009, 04:32 »
@Traveler1116 I'm in Asia too. What about creating FT-DT fun club? Send you PM Sorry for hijacking this thread
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« on: September 16, 2009, 21:03 »
For me yes. -It's my best earner, from far. -They have the best reviewers. I have the best acceptance ratio with IS. They take original photos that are rejected by others (funny but SS stars to accept more and more of them too). I can go to 6th level basement with one candle, take a photo and sell it at IS. Try to upload this to FT  -Best searching engine. When I look for images I always do it at IS. -I start to be a little bit afraid about legal questions. Now there is a lot of money at microstock. Money attract lawyers. Are all my photos ok for RF? Few dollars earning can cost much more in the court. With IS I'm more comfortable, they seem to know the subject, especially with new All Content Warranties. -You will be surprise but I like their forum. They stay fixed on microstock. No Fifi, no show me third download on 17th after 6pm. -They seem to be stable. No surprise "a la DT". The contract is respected. If there is something new you don't like you have option out. -My images are no spread all over the world with no control and no information. Having photos on some Asian site is a little bit frightening. -I like Vetta. Making expensive, high quality images makes sens now. But there are the things I don't like  : - Disambiguation is painful. - 20% for non exclusives and 40 % commissions for exclusives are too low.
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« on: September 15, 2009, 21:29 »
Interview of microstock VIP (sites owners, best photographers...) with some rules: - we prepare questions list (every MSG member can participate) - questions should be precise and professional - if VIP accept to participate he should honestly and clearly respond. If something is not clear we can ask for more details. - then members can vote for VIP (relevance, usefulness...)
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« on: September 15, 2009, 21:11 »
What I like about DT is that criticism actually gets responded to by someone with authority.
Absolutely! Achilles is the most hands on of all the site owners, by far.
Whether or not you agree with the reasons offered, at least contributors to Dreamstime are given the respect of honest and thoughtful answers to questions and concerns.
Lisa, its amazing how our perceptions can be different. Maybe you haven't read all threads. Actually I think that Achilles judiciously avoid to respond majority of embarrassing questions. I took only two examples: 17. No information send to contributors about important changes, like new prices policy We don't send too many emails because of how many users we have. We don't want to end up being called spammers. Nothing was launched without a pre-announcement way in advance. The news section highlights those announcements. Let's be honest, no contributor complained that they didn't hear about the changes. Question: Spammers ? Seriously, you send acceptance emails all the time and you worry about spam for one email, most important for us information? Response: will address that as well. with 1,600,000 emails in our database we're reluctant sending emails for every announcement, but it was not the case here. I don't really think we were not transparent or tried to hide it in any way, please be reasonable. 18. Lack of information about Partners program Whenever we could, we announced them. In many cases the news leaked out. But these strategies are sometimes confidential, for obvious reasons. We have competitors, I'm sure you noticed Question :Dont interested about your confidential strategies. But Im highly interested about places where my images are send. Do you heard about countries that dont respect copyright? You should communicate about OUR commission too, min and max. Response: can you give me examples where you can see what a distributor makes? I find Dreamstime to be among the most transparent agencies. BTW, I always checked in for monthly newsletter. Never got it. But acceptance/rejections emails work well. For me DT is not credible any more.
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« on: September 15, 2009, 04:54 »
I dont want to start new social movement, just give you an advice. Be suspicious, be vigilant and dont trust every advice and information microstock agencies give you. Be selfish, do what is good for you. They are not our agents, this is not win-win relation. We have not common interests, worst, our interests are opposite. Whats good for us is bad for them. They sell credits and subscriptions, we sell images. For each credit plan or subscription the site get money. We get nothing. For each downloaded picture we get money and the site lose money. They love to have our images (thats what makes clients put money in their pockets) but they dont like sell them. Who is the best client for microstock site? The guy who paid for 1 year subscription (2400$) and had a car crash 10 minutes later. I wish a very long life to all our buyers.
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« on: September 15, 2009, 04:48 »
1. It's your opinion that is not relevant. It is for us and for our positioning within the market.
10. We're not enforcing any drastical change instantly and we leave plenty of time to adapt. At this time the royalty dropped in an average that is less than 5-10% for most contributors. Those rates were announced but not fully performed. You can see my announcement in that thread about what was performed When they will be, it could be well over the 6 months limit since the initial announcement. I'm sympathetic about your issue with your grandmother, however is not really the same case. We will try to keep your comments in mind for the future, there is always room for improvement.
11. You can simply email us, it's in fact much easier than going through the images and cancel exclusivity one by one. When a security measure is enforced you don't want to make it public. There is no inconvenience for honest users, emailing us works much faster than clicking those checkboxes.
17. will address that as well. with 1,600,000 emails in our database we're reluctant sending emails for every announcement, but it was not the case here. I don't really think we were not transparent or tried to hide it in any way, please be reasonable.
18. can you give me examples where you can see what a distributor makes? I find Dreamstime to be among the most transparent agencies.
19. The amount of such subscribers is very small. Again, your own download may have been the result of something else. What I can assure you is that the royalty you got was according to the one advertised on the Sell your images page.
22. it's your right to do what you think is best for you. As long as we stay within our contract's rules, it's also our right to do what we consider best for our community (buyers, contributors and the agency). The agency's role after driving buyers to the site is to try to define the best compromise between the buyer and the contributor.
Achilles, thank you for spending time writing these lines. But if you cannot respond to some questions, simply ignore them.
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« on: September 14, 2009, 22:12 »
@ Achilles Congratulation, like always an excellent reply. You are very intelligent but, in my opinion, you still make some political mistakes. Dreamstime have potential to be great site. Stopping play "silent changes" and fine print contract game can be only benefit for you.
1. 6 months of holding images That is a regular requirement for most stock agencies in the world. It's true that not all microstock agencies have it. It was explained before lots of times. Without its integration several years ago, there will be a monopoly right now. -You are microstock agency. Comparing you to stock agencies is not relevant. In microstock world you have the longest holding images period. Ok, its not completely true- there is still Albumo-but do you want to compare you to Albumo?
10. Changing policies for old contributors. No possibility to option-in/out or close account when TOS change. You have this possibility at any time as long as you respect the contract. There are also opt-out features on the site (see Alliances section). You have to understand we are a business and there are rules. They are available at your signup date. None of our rules is uncommon for the industry. If any of these rules would be abused by us, we wouldn't have contributors' support. We would lose it instantly or after 6 months, doesn't really matter. It would be simply stupid from us to abuse anything. In the end it's good business strategy that keeps agents, contributors and buyers together, not a set of rules. To be honest 6 months holding period is ok for me. I knew about that. What is not normal that you dont propose possibility to get out is policies drastically change like subscriptions introducing and decreasing commission from 50 to 30%. This is not fair and even maybe not legal in some countries. Why read contract, why agree with your policies if it means NOTHING. Its only one way contract, you can do what you want and we dont even have possibility to leave if we dont agree with NEW terms. You know that a lot of people dont read your TOS. I did, but Ive never imagine that I signed blank check. Can you built honest and perennial business with this principle? Do you want to trap contributors. If they are happy they will not leave. . Short story: One day a door-to-door vendor sold to my 82 years old grand mother one year Internet connection. She has not computer and not even once touch a keyboard. Why she bought it? The vendor was a charming guy, he said it was a good deal. She signed the contract without reading. We try to cancel subscription, impossible, the contract was legal.
11. Exclusive images - you can check in but cannot check out Because it was abused by contributors in the past MANY times. You can still check out by emailing support. Before it was possible, than you changed it without any notice. And the page looks the same so you check in thinking that you can change your mind like before but its too late. Why you dont inform us to avoid this kind of surprise? So if tomorrow bad contributors abuse (check out) you will, in silence, block it for 1 year?
15. Very slow earnings compared to IS and SS That is your own experience. Exactly, I'm talking about things I know. Not about rumors.
16. About 40%!!! commission drop. Again, your own experience. Others see high growth. Again, don't take my word for granted, ask others contributors. Im not talking about my earnings. Im talking about decreasing our commission from 50% to 30% for 1 level images files (huge majority in my case). About 40% drop. Never heard about something similar.
17. No information send to contributors about important changes, like new prices policy We don't send too many emails because of how many users we have. We don't want to end up being called spammers. Nothing was launched without a pre-announcement way in advance. The news section highlights those announcements. Let's be honest, no contributor complained that they didn't hear about the changes. Spammers ? Seriously, you send acceptance emails all the time and you worry about spam for one email, most important for us information?
18. Lack of information about Partners program Whenever we could, we announced them. In many cases the news leaked out. But these strategies are sometimes confidential, for obvious reasons. We have competitors, I'm sure you noticed Dont interested about your confidential strategies. But Im highly interested about places where my images are send. Do you heard about countries that dont respect copyright? You should communicate about OUR commission too, min and max.
19. Sometimes strange earnings like 0,24. DT team never explain that We used to explain every single royalty. it's very difficult today with so many price updates and so many downloads. Too many files are downloaded each day. We cannot track each of them to provide additional details, but the FAQ and our Message boards provide plenty of data you can work with. In this case, it could've been a very old subscriptions (someone might have purchased a yearly plan) or a subscription royalty affected by a distributor comission fee. I was there when subscriptions stared. Never heard 0.24. Never mind, why not to inform about all amount still available?
22. "sale is a sale" reasoning Isn't a sale a sale? That's the microstock spirit. We also agree that it shouldn't go too low and prices should keep up with equipment upgrades and skills improvement. Taking a look at past years RPDs, I dare to say RPD is fair, although it's increase is always welcome, of course. Exactly, probably contributors invest much more money in this business than you do. New contributors are always enthusiastic but they get older. One day it stops to be fun and economic question become pertinent. Personally, I dont care about tear sheet game, never try to find any of my images in use. Only $ count. I prefer lose a sale than a sale for nothing.
If nothing change, probably next year Ill be exclusive at IS. I dont like this idea but I dislike much more what happens at Dreamstime and Fotolia. I have possibility to make interesting (but costly) images that I cannot sell at subscription price. I like a lot Vetta collection.
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