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« on: January 04, 2011, 16:21 »
Shocked to see the poll showing 43% (at the time of this writing) saying that they are carrying on as normal.
I don't think it's that simple. This single little poll doesn't capture all the contributors who simply walked away, or brilliant photographers like myself who've decided that submitting images into this chaotic mess would not be a good investment of time.
There are a lot of great stock images that IS isn't getting, and won't get in the future, from people who would read this forum and think - why would I spend time producing quality images for this crazy company that gives me no assurance that my commission a year from now won't be half of what it is today, or that my images won't be simply buried by new schemes to favor exclusives and high-margin images, or will even show up properly in searches based on keywords?
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« on: January 04, 2011, 16:18 »
Hi aeonf,
There was a time in our countries history that employers were able to pay whatever they liked to their workers and people worked like crazy, from children to over age adults. We changed that with minimum wage, Unions and child labor laws, this helped create and support the middle class. The worker does and should have rights. I do agree 100%, if you don't want to shoot for Istock then don't but as far as being a smart motivating business plan that is another subject. When Macro RF came on the scene they started at 20% ( a number literally pulled from the air ) when RM was at 40-50%. How were these companies able to make money by offering their photographers 50%? The did, as a matter of fact Tony Stone made their photographers very rich. To this day there are a few agencies still offering 50% to their photographers and they are still making a profit. I think if you keep your worker bees happy then they produce the best honey and work around the clock to support the hive. My two cents.
Best, Jonathan
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« on: January 04, 2011, 16:07 »
SNP,
You got your extended license paid but did you receive any punitive damages? Through my experience and many others I have asked over the years they do not share the 10k ( or whatever the amount ) they made from suing or settling out of court with the company at fault. That was my only point, they will pay you once they collect just not any of the money they collected from the punitive damages. This is my experience from my career, it might be completely different with Istock I cannot say.
Best, Jonathan
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« on: January 03, 2011, 20:12 »
Hi All,
My experience has been Getty pays you your normal cut for the infringement once it is collected they just don't share punitive damages, within my own experience. They also remove sales from our statements that for some reason did not go through or were rejected before payment was closed. That is why as a third party owner of a stock agency I do not pay out to our contributors until the money is actually collected, that way they never get stung. Many smaller agencies work this way.
Best., Jonathan
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« on: January 03, 2011, 14:00 »
Hi Jen,
That is very interesting to hear. We can all try to calculate what the changes are here but it is like spitting into a fire. Their back end is so in depth that there is no real way of knowing what takes place behind closed doors. Anything else here is just conjecture or educated guessing. It helps to get together here and try to solve the puzzle but in the end I think we still will find a lot of pieces missing from the box. Just my opinion.
Best, Jonathan
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« on: January 03, 2011, 13:52 »
Hey SNP,
That was a great show and a good way to explain to most people because most of us saw that episode.
Cheers, Jonathan
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« on: January 02, 2011, 19:01 »
Hi SNP, This was quite a ways back for us and we just didn't think clearly. It was one of those many lessons learned along the way and that's why we now make it super clear to even professional models that their images might end up supporting products or opinions they don't agree with. It seems to just depends on the model, most people don't seem to care they just are interested in making some money and having fun at the same time but occasionally their are issues. In RM the photographer has the choice as to how their images are used. If the model doesn't want them in a tobacco or liquor product then that can be added to the image, or the photographer hires a different model. Even a political view point can be added to the image if the photographer decides so. That is why some large modeling agencies will not let some of their models shoot for RF. Thank goodness after all these years that is one of only two times one of our images came back to haunt us. I hope it stays that way  Best, Jonathan
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« on: January 02, 2011, 13:18 »
Hi All,
Unfortunately agencies across the board have reduced commissions for years, it used to be a 50/50 split and the company that made that split in the beginning were the most respected and powerful agencies in the world. I just hope it doesn't sink anyones boat. If some photographer was taken for a great loss it could cost them their careers. If you got a big fat check and went out and bought a new car then they take their money back what are you supposed to do, try to resell the car? I really hope they set a clear president and share all punitive damages, that would make them look pretty darn good in the eyes of the stock photographers of the world. In my opinion.
Best, Jonathan
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« on: January 02, 2011, 13:12 »
Hi SNP,
Yes, I love the Onion but the character of this family was not in the same mind. It was just after the Lewinsky/Clinton ordeal and they made her out to be another Lewinsky ( in graphic detail ) with a government official, just about the worst topic for such a devout christian family. I cannot say for sure if they will split damages with you if they win but in my 13 years in stock and I know quite a few shooters and none of them have received portions of punitive damages. I can only go by the 60 or so photographers I am close to that have sold through Getty for years but with the volume these photographers produce I would expect there to be one example. I have never heard of an example of sharing punitive damages with the photographer so my guess is educated but it is not carved in stone. I hope they share then I would feel more secure and on an equal platform with my resellers. Thanks for the feedback : )
Best, Jonathan
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« on: January 01, 2011, 18:37 »
Hi All, If you have images that could fit www.spacesimages.com style and needs we would be interested in purchasing images. PM me if you re interested. Best, Jonathan
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« on: January 01, 2011, 18:34 »
Hi All,
I think it might take some time to implement but I think Getty will make it retroactive as of today. So once they figure it out they will balance what is due them or you once things are dialed in. Best Guess...
Best, Jonathan
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« on: January 01, 2011, 18:27 »
Hi All,
Here's an example that isn't quite the same but this happened with a shot of mine that Getty was representing. It was used by " The Onion " ( online political satire ) in a way that totally violated the contract and hurt my neighbors beyond belief, one of the big reasons I don't shoot friends and relatives anymore. Getty contacted " The Onion " and had them remove the image immediately with no damages because they wanted to keep the customer relationship strong, this is what I was told by my editor. These days it appears they would most likely take it more seriously from what I am reading here on this forum. The image was removed within the week but not before our neighbors college daughter was the laughing stock of her school ( word got out, poor girl ). Really kind devout christian family that was truly hurt by the use of the image and the article that ran with it. Worst of all they just cut her head out of my original shot of Mom and daughter in the kitchen having fun. At the time I appreciated the actions Getty took so fast to handle the problem and understood their wanting to keep their client base strong. As much as it hurt the family after the fact, Getty handled it very well. That was 9 years ago. My two Cents!
Best, Jonathan
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« on: December 29, 2010, 23:42 »
Hi All,
If this is a scam and images have been purchased by illegal funds in the past it is always been the photographer that pays the price along with the agency. No sale is reported after the problems are fixed and those sales are removed from your revenue. I hope this won't be the case in microstock, I see this as a great chance for Istock to step up for their contributors who have been feeling a bit let down by the company as of late, I hope it ends up that way. My two cents.
Best, Jonathan
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« on: December 29, 2010, 23:34 »
Hi All,
Getty does not share punitive damages with their photographers in their Macro side of the business, I can't speak for their microstock side. RM which still represents 50% of all sales in stock, is just the same as RF. They will give you the original 20%-35% of the images normal sale but they keep the big chunk. It used to be they would contact a customer and offer them the chance to remove the image or pay the standard price. Their intentions then were to keep customers happy and try to bring in new ones from their open friendly approach to the problem. Maybe that way didn't work like they wanted so they have changed their policy.
Best, Jonathan
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« on: December 29, 2010, 23:16 »
Hey There,
Thanks for the help all. I appreciate it.
Best, Jonathan
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« on: December 29, 2010, 16:48 »
Hi All,
I had a 27.54 dollar extended license today and it was posted before yesterdays sales were. It seems to have sold for the correct amount though. Are you seeing the larger items sold for less than they are supposed to? Thanks for the feedback. I'm not exclusive.
Best, Jonathan
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« on: December 29, 2010, 11:54 »
Hi Donding, No it was a camera I was looking at for x-mas. I have a Gitzo that is super light and sturdy when I use it, I love it. There ws a camera by Sony I was looking at but after the test at the camera store I wasn't as impressed as I was with the article. No camera gear at all this year  Cheers, Jonathan
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« on: December 26, 2010, 14:27 »
Hi M, You might check out The Ultimate Ball head by Acretech. They back their heads for 10 years. If anything goes wrong they will fix it or replace it for ten years. I have had mine 6 and they are replacing it from wear so I get a brand new one. Just a thought here is the link www.acratech.netGood Luck, Jonathan
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« on: December 21, 2010, 21:14 »
Yes, Great idea Tyler,
Thanks for continuing to improve this forum. Hats off.
Best, Jonathan
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« on: December 19, 2010, 00:42 »
CC, That's the only part that is free, the software  J
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« on: December 18, 2010, 21:40 »
Hi Click Click, I'll buy the power cord and I have a fluid head. Maybe if 50 of us go in on it piece by piece and share it we could afford it  Best, J
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« on: December 18, 2010, 15:24 »
I'm not getting one Zeus, at least not for some time.  Who can afford something like this for stock right now. It is overkill. If you want to shoot high end work it is the bomb and just shows where we will all be heading for a super low price some day for all of us. Remember before these cameras it would cost you 300k to be set up to shoot this quality. Now you can get a 5D 2 for pennies on the dollar and produce great content for customers needs. The prices on Reds will drop as well, right now they are not much more than shooting with a Hasselblad and their Large digital back like some stock shooters use. If you could see how much range these cameras capture it is almost like working with an HDR file when you are done. The first tests included shooting inside a barn with just the window and barn door open. The final view shows all the detail in the barn and all the detail of the trees and sky outside the barn through the window, amazing coverage that will make producing great footage and stills that much easier on the set. The need for lighting is drastically reduced so crews get smaller lighting gets smaller costs for production start to drop fast. If they offered this camera at the same price as my Ids Mark 3 I would buy two in a minute. Super small, super easy to set up and break down and you get stills or motion from the same shoot. Best, Jonathan
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« on: December 18, 2010, 15:10 »
Hi Sean, You sound like my father. He didn't think the internet would be worth a darn.  Best, Jonathan
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« on: December 18, 2010, 13:27 »
Hi All, The Red Epic has just started shipping out their first cameras take a look at the new toy. Pricey but it is still fun to look at the site and learn about some of the specs. Here is the link http://epic.red.com/. Happy Holidays, if you are trying to think of what to get me this would be a great start  Cheers, Jonathan
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« on: December 16, 2010, 12:46 »
Hi Helix7,
They still will not let anyone in as an exclusive that has RF work anywhere else, I have spoken directly to them several times about that subject and it has been made very clear they will not take on exclusives unless all their work is removed from all other RF sites, Macro or Micro. They would take Yuri but he would have to pull all his work from Macro and Micro RF that he is shooting or has shot. His RF work in Macro has longer contracts on them so he wouldn't be able to go exclusive for a very long time.
Best, Jonathan
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