fotolia by miles...and one question, anybody saw where has gone the credits sales?
in january zero sales over 99 cents,..mostly 36 cent...lacking the quantity of ss sales this is getting pretty scaring, and this is happening near the timeline of the closing of fotolia, maybe adobe will become  the new 123rf?   hope not.

back to normal seems...low sales probably due to this after two very god sales...

the last i got rejected tell me that is not a machine or a boot, only a man could have seen the reason for reject.

Quote from: Me on January 21, 2019, 11:21

Quote from: stockman11 on January 20, 2019, 12:36

Quote from: Eco on January 20, 2019, 10:29

Been doing stock since 2006. I am sure there are many old timers that still remember the time when high value sales were both regular and in high volumes. I remember the days of 20-30 or more EL sales at SS in a month, every month. Not anymore. I guess we are now in the period where we will have to accept whatever is coming our way or quit. I can�t complain though - still doing quite well to make it worthwhile for me to continue.
 
I like Canva and I always hoped that they will be able to fill that loss of the declining sales at the other agencies. For me this never really happened, possibly because I joined them relatively late.  Based on what I see happening there now I cannot see that it will change anytime soon.  They will remain one of my low earners and it frustrates me to see only those $0.35 sales. You may have better luck and a wish to all the success.

Some people probably remember the good old macrostock days (not me, I'm much newer than you)... The thing is simple - more and more people want to spend as little money as possible on the images, which is why the bigger sales on SS and other sites are in less numbers than before. So trying to raise the prices would be a suicide. That's the state of the market nowadays, we can't go around it. All what agencies and us can do is keep the current state and not allow any further devaluation.

So as I said, all what Canva did bad for us is the Getty deal. Their prices are not the problem, they fit perfectly into the current market, which is a must nowadays if you want to have any success.

Is it people looking to spend less and less? Or is it the agencies representing us that are competing with each other so much that they have decided to lower prices - the customer is still happy to pay whatever the price is for the image they want, it is the agencies that dictate the price, not the customers.

If there are less large sales on all the main agencies, lower prices or not, but people still spend the same, where do people spend that money now? Where did the big sales go? Or people really do spend less money now than before?

Behavior of the buyers plays a huge role in our earnings. If there were a higher prices since the beginning of microstock, that would be probably ok in the beginning, but would it be now? Why are some people so sure that the sales nowadays wouldn't drop even more with those higher prices?

Of course, I'm not saying let's drop the prices even more to make the buyers happy, I'm saying we should meet with the buyers in the optimal spot - the spot which will gives us the highest earnings. People who think raising prices 10x would do good for us are too emotional and delusional. Too bad that reality isn't better, but it is what it is, which is why microstock > macrostock.

less than this?
what is 0,15 cent rrpd?

Quote from: stockman11 on January 20, 2019, 12:36

Quote from: Eco on January 20, 2019, 10:29

Been doing stock since 2006. I am sure there are many old timers that still remember the time when high value sales were both regular and in high volumes. I remember the days of 20-30 or more EL sales at SS in a month, every month. Not anymore. I guess we are now in the period where we will have to accept whatever is coming our way or quit. I can�t complain though - still doing quite well to make it worthwhile for me to continue.
 
I like Canva and I always hoped that they will be able to fill that loss of the declining sales at the other agencies. For me this never really happened, possibly because I joined them relatively late.  Based on what I see happening there now I cannot see that it will change anytime soon.  They will remain one of my low earners and it frustrates me to see only those $0.35 sales. You may have better luck and a wish to all the success.

Some people probably remember the good old macrostock days (not me, I'm much newer than you)... The thing is simple - more and more people want to spend as little money as possible on the images, which is why the bigger sales on SS and other sites are in less numbers than before. So trying to raise the prices would be a suicide. That's the state of the market nowadays, we can't go around it. All what agencies and us can do is keep the current state and not allow any further devaluation.

So as I said, all what Canva did bad for us is the Getty deal. Their prices are not the problem, they fit perfectly into the current market, which is a must nowadays if you want to have any success.

Is it people looking to spend less and less? Or is it the agencies representing us that are competing with each other so much that they have decided to lower prices - the customer is still happy to pay whatever the price is for the image they want, it is the agencies that dictate the price, not the customers.

i agree..
in my opinion they should have raised the price even from beginning...1 dollar minimum was already to low for the time, considering before company spent 50 100 dollar for same usage. they could have asked 3 5 dollar aup...nowadays they are facing a big challenge, the big number of free images offered...if i browse unspalsh in most cases i found the quality more like stocksy than micro, more creative...and they are free! apart released file, but i suspect many don't care a dim in this world about using an unreleased file, customer now have the opportunity to save hundreds of dollar of extended licensed files, those that   sold in the past in ss and made a month good or bad...who will spend 300 dollar for a landscape files? or food? or  still life? when they can spend zero moose the tie for a better files?
at this point i wish ss will lower those price of enhanced, better collect 10 15 dollar but re begin selling extend license at a pace that make a month good or bad...if i sell 20 extended at 15 is much better than zero at 79 or 100.
but the race towards the bottom is unfortunately unstoppable. the only thing we can do is   focus on quality and other way to sell. but again we are facing a big competition, in instagram everybody is a photographer and probably there are 100 200 million of potential professions, while the market can absorb probably not more than 50k.
tough game.

i'm not talking about us i'am talking about the big photographer with photos sold in gallery for thousand of dollar which works is stolen by some indian idiot and resold in sss...i mean this is another level of problem...soon will have salgado work in ss?
or the famous kiss of cartier bresson with a great description

"jim and kelly loves to kiss in black and white"

Quote from: jonbull on January 20, 2019, 11:50

55...ahhahaha...

There's probably 5,500 active accounts or 1% of all AT LEAST!

as i said don'tknow if it's a crime in usa but they are selling something illecit...they will face for sure big problems soon...imagine some idiot from india uploading some mario testino or salgado images? ......ss is so idiot not even consider this...and we idiots who spend money travel and produce photos...just to see our revenue killed by spammer thief...

55...ahhahaha...and the idiot still think this is a 10 people phenomenon.....ahahah...and expect thousand more since shutter stock offer contributor 20 different languages...100 dollar for poor people in third world county like india make a difference...and is not racism is the true unfortunately for them and us.

Quote from: jonbull on January 19, 2019, 10:51

34 cent rpd.
speachless. not even 123rf.

Same here. Dropped a lot since September

i started  2018 with a 97 cent per download with big sales....now 0,34...bye bye istock. simply.

I stopped uploading new work completely. Too many 0.03 USD earnings. It`s a joke.

i completely agree.....i was skeptical but now no more. not worth even the bandwidth...i will focus only in rm this year and ss plus fotolia....i have even the impression that stock favors the exclusive artist in their algorithm.

34 cent rpd.
speachless. not even 123rf.

despite a better level of downloads the rperdown is appalling due to the 15% commission......totally a waste of time has begun to load here....at least first month of eps there were big sale to compensate for lower commission...now , like in every agency, bigger sale i mean more than 100 dollar are totallydisappeared. the fact that people can find whatever they want free clearly is impacting this business in a tremendous way.