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« on: November 07, 2022, 13:48 »
Well, but I still have. At least once a month I'm having $150 or higher video sale, and few $50-$70 sales. I can't remember when I had such a sale on Adobe 
In 2021 and 2022, I rarely have sales in the $100 range. Accordingly, my income has decreased by 50-70% from the level that it was before 2021. But if you have such sales, then shutterstock promotes authors manually.
Either the quality is approached or the country of registration of the author.
Yes, adobe does not make such sales, but adobe is basically stable. Although my portfolio growth on adobe does not lead to an increase in income.
Instead of trying to find all kind of excuses and invent conspiracy theories, maybe you should look in the mirror and acknowledge that your stuff may not be that much in demand.  These big video sales on SS are not that rare. Check these additional ones, below. During the same period, my top 3 video sales on AS were $70, $70, $56. Not bad, but far from what SS was able to pull out.
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« on: November 07, 2022, 10:14 »
While on SS I'm doubling my earnings every year, mostly because of those 150-300$/video sales
What 150-300 dollars are you talking about. There are no such amounts on SS for a long time.
Is August 2022 a "long time" ago for you? Because, in August 2022 I had my biggest sale ever on SS. If it happened to me, it certainly happened to others, too.
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« on: November 06, 2022, 15:09 »
I plotted an Excel graph showing my revenue development throughout the years of both Adobe and Shutterstock. It paints a clear picture of who came out on top:
Here is the same graph, but starting with 2014. I can also observe the AS growth following the acquisition of Fotolia. I can also observe a decline following Stan Pavlovsky's new royalty structure. However, in my case, the SS decline was mitigated, once I uploaded a series of videos that turned out to be in very high demand. This is why at least for the time being, SS keeps on delivering the best performance for me.
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« on: November 05, 2022, 12:18 »
another possibility is you're not as good as you think you are and fail to compete in an always changing market.
No, he is very good. He is just unlucky and oppressed by SS, who has a preference for other contributors! 
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« on: November 01, 2022, 19:23 »
You are lucky, you are among the lucky ones.
Right, it's only about luck!
331
« on: November 01, 2022, 11:56 »
...everyone I spoke to confirmed a very strong decline in shutterstock revenue.
I didn't.
And Zero Talent didn't, Her Ugliness possibly didn't, and if we're going with your original 2020 to 2022 comparison, then Jaggy didn't. So if everyone you spoke to 'confirmed a very strong decline', then you obviously have some form of selective hearing.
Sure, I've noticed the collapse in some people's revenue. I've also noticed the increase in some people's revenue... and while the former is more common than the latter, not everybody is experience a strong decline in earnings.
Right I just calculated my October earnings. It was a good month, in fact, the second best October ever (behind Oct '21), with SS leading the pack, ahead of AS. https://www.microstockgroup.com/general-stock-discussion/this-month's-sales/msg581239/#msg581239
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« on: November 01, 2022, 10:24 »
Good month for me, with SS leading the pack, closely followed by AS:
333
« on: November 01, 2022, 06:14 »
Her Ugliness, here in the subject everyone complains about the drop in income, except for you. 
... and me
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« on: October 31, 2022, 08:40 »
Yeah, some buyers may have left SS lured by the free stuff dumped on the market by AS & Co.
Net gain for contributors = Zero (or less)
PS. It's very likely that 99% of the buyers are oblivious to what happens to contributors or don't care.
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« on: October 27, 2022, 14:07 »
Hi Everyone,
Heads up! Videos will be eligible for nomination into the Adobe Stock Free collection starting tomorrow (Tuesday, October 11). An email with detailed information will be sent to those of you with eligible content, tomorrow morning (PDT). Check your inbox then, and let me know if you have any questions after you read it.
Thank you,
Mat Hayward
Hello Mat,
I was wondering if there are any "statistics" from the impact the free image collection had/have regarding attracting new buyers?
We can all share our own experiences, but is there any official statement from Adobe?
Is the expanding of the free collection to videos result of a success in getting more photo-buyers, or is Adobe just "following the flow", afraid of loosing the clients it already have?
Thanks for the question @KoKi. I don't have any statistics to share with you. The program is designed to attract new buyers with and it is working.
As a reminder, please make your final decision on video nominations today. The option to nominate, or remove nomination will close tomorrow. I expect the final decisions and payments will not be complete until near the end of November, so thank you in advance for your patience as the process continues.
Thanks very much to all of you for your participation so far. Without you, there is no us.
-Mat Hayward
If you have info saying that it attracts new customers, it will be nice to know if it attracts really new customers, or rather customers from other platforms (or the ratio between these 2 categories). Because while the second case might be great for AS, it might not be so great for its contributors => robbing Peter to pay Paul (or worse). Sharing some facts could help you and AS addressing the push back seen on this thread.
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« on: October 25, 2022, 09:48 »
I'd strongly advise any contributors not to participate in providing content for datasets.
I agree, but is this even an option?
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« on: October 24, 2022, 15:20 »
In October, SS is 10.9% better than AS and only 14.4% of the earnings originate from subs.
Below is my monthly SS vs AS earnings graph, since 2014.
Only 4 times AS managed to do better than SS.
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« on: October 20, 2022, 08:07 »
A good month:
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« on: October 19, 2022, 14:53 »
One of my clips requested for the free collection, was just sold today and I got $28. Well done AS! This is what I expect from you, instead of giving away good material for free! Let's not shoot ourselves in the foot anymore!
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« on: October 18, 2022, 09:59 »
Don't give up! Occasional sales are back... 'tis video...
I also got this one a few days ago. This amount is very unusual for an editorial clip.
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« on: October 15, 2022, 04:55 »
Here are a few examples from my eligible clips:
1. AS: 0 sale - Total earnings across all agencies: $199
2. AS: 1 sale - Total earnings across all agencies: $391
3. AS: 1 sale - Total earnings across all agencies: $562.55
3. AS: 1 sale - Total earnings across all agencies: $143.91
4. AS: 1 sale - Total earnings across all agencies: $371
.... and more
So, if I allow these clips to be given away for free, in exchange for 8 bucks, I'm not only shooting myself in the foot, but I may also shoot you in the foot if we both cover the same topics.
I think that many buyers buy on one site, and do not waste time looking for everything on all sites, and even wondering where is cheaper. Even if you distribute all your videos on Adobe for free, your income on other sites will not decrease.
And it, unlike us, adobe conducts market research, and conducts appropriate policies. I trust adobe.
My video is sold on cheap subscription stocks for 16 dollars a month by subscription, on other sites this video is also bought, for a high price.
1. I have many examples of sales on DT (where the keywords used for finding the pictures are shared with us) of images found on other sites, but purchased from DT. This is beyond any doubt, because the search string is the exact full title of that image, as found elsewhere => customers DO shop around. 2. Adobe is bulding this free collection to stimulate extra sales for themselves. This is done by attracting customers from other agencies, since the free collection has no reason to stimulate extra sales from their current customer base (quite the opposite) => canibalisation. 3. You say you "trust" AS (trust, but no verify?), but given how succesful (with the global customer base) are the clips in my examples above, I would say that AS should do a better job in marketing such clips (which are obviously in demand), instead of trying to offer them for free.
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« on: October 14, 2022, 09:29 »
Free "slag" is very likely be preferred by many "buyers" as an alternative to paid quality stuff.
Free distorts the market and competition, because free is not used, but is abused
Your statement is very controversial and reflects only your opinion. You have no evidence or calculations.
"Slag" at Adobe may be selling well at other agencies.
No one is forcing you to participate in this program. The more people who opt out, the more my videos will end up in collections and the more money I'll get.
Very short-sighted. Here are a few examples from my eligible clips: 1. AS: 0 sale - Total earnings across all agencies: $199 2. AS: 1 sale - Total earnings across all agencies: $391 3. AS: 1 sale - Total earnings across all agencies: $562.55 3. AS: 1 sale - Total earnings across all agencies: $143.91 4. AS: 1 sale - Total earnings across all agencies: $371 .... and more So, if I allow these clips to be given away for free, in exchange for 8 bucks, I'm not only shooting myself in the foot, but I may also shoot you in the foot if we both cover the same topics.
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« on: October 14, 2022, 05:40 »
Zero Talent, Adobe only nominates what hasn't sold in the last 12 months, i.e. slag.
I'm not talking about subscription stocks, which, following your logic, should have bankrupted Adobe a long time ago.
Free "slag" is very likely be preferred by many "buyers" as an alternative to paid quality stuff. "Slag" at Adobe may be selling well at other agencies. Basically, Adobe is gambling with our global assets, hoping that giving stuff for free will increase their sales. We take for granted this claim without being shown any proof that it actually works. Besides, even if there may be some extra sales, it's also likely that these sales are canibalising sales from other agencies (=dumping), resulting in overall losses for contributors. Free is distorting the market and the competition, because Free is not used, but abused.
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« on: October 14, 2022, 04:46 »
For all the whiners on the forum, nominate what suits you and that's it, you have this opportunity. Jessus...
Jessus... you missed the point. Other people's nominations may impact your sales, if you create similar stuff, since it's hard for you to compete with free, even if your stuff is better. And vice-versa. Tragedy of the commons.
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« on: October 13, 2022, 17:23 »
Coincidentally one of my "eligible assets" that has already sold twice on Adobe Stock just sold again for over $50. I should accept and nominate their offer of $8. It should be noted that this particular clip has also sold five times elsewhere. That $8 just keeps looking better and better. That $8 would essentially wipe out my income producing asset for the sole benefit of a corporation and it's marketing needs.
This is not even the main issue. Every free clip or image is an alternative to paid images or videos created by other contributors. It's hard to compete with free. Even if other paid images/videos are better, many "buyers" will choose a free option. It is short-sighted to selfishly look only at the immediate little gains obtained from allowing your free assets to be downloaded for free, without looking at the bigger losses from your other assets, when free competitive alternatives are offered by other users. As a community, we shoot ourselves in the feet. 
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« on: October 13, 2022, 14:54 »
I was away for the past few weeks, and I was able to summarize Sep 22 only today.
It was a good month:
348
« on: October 10, 2022, 08:39 »
... by the slavery, incest, murder, theft, deceit & other crimes blithely accepted because they were 'in service of the lord'.
... add pedophilia to your list of Bible approved crimes.
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« on: October 06, 2022, 09:27 »
It is a program that has learning abilities. It gets input and it learns from it.
Like kids learning in a school with stolen books, stolen lab materials, stolen utilities, etc Once the kids have learned the skill, they move on and create new original stuff, as instructed by their employer.
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« on: September 27, 2022, 03:58 »
stock photography itself has little to do with art!
Exactly, this is only a craft, like carpentry, like masonry, etc. Agencies are calling us "artists" only to caress our egos, because it costs them nothing. Otherwise, while re-watching Mad Men, I noticed an illustrator (Salvatore Romano, in the show) complaining when all clients were asking for photos, instead of his illustrations. It's very obvious that photographers displaced some illustrators' jobs, when looking at those vintage advertisements from the 50s and before. Now, AI may displace some photographers' jobs in return. This is how the story goes!
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