no, the files that are on getty will also be available on eyeem. the files are exclusive to eyeem who then sends some of them to getty.

the only real difference is that the files that move to getty can only be removed after 6 months, while the files that are only on eyeem can be removed anytime. I have done that a few times, because I changed my mind a few times and decided the file was "too normal" and I sent it elsewhere.

I don�t know the percentage that I am getting on getty, but the lowest I have had is 5 dollars, which is unusual. From my time on getty I remember there were lots of much smaller returns. So maybe they have a deal where you get more when it is a low value sale, or there is some kind of lower limit and less if it is higher? again, I have no idea, in total I have had 6 sales, you really can�t make any assumptions from that. The highest was 42 dollars, which isn�t bad. The average now is around 11 dollars. That is more than my average as an istock exclusive for normal main collection content. And again...only 6 sales...really not enough data for any kind of projection...

But for me whatever comes from getty should just be the add on, not the main income. I sincerly hope that their own marketplace will be the main focus and the majority of their money.

However, since the images I am sending now couldn�t be sold elswehere, even if I only got 10% from getty it would still be more than not selling them at all. And if the lowest return is really 5 dollars, that is much better than a sub sale. Again, maybe there are lower sales for some people and I simply haven�t had them yet.

So it is all total speculation. Until their own marketplace gets going, we are working in a cloud of mystery.

I�ll stick to the "fun images that can�t go elsewhere" and enjoy the journey. But I am not planning my financial stock life on them.

It is fun, it adds some money. no stress.

eta: this is the image I got 42 dollars for. I doubt it would have been accepted anywhere else and I don�t believe it is killer bestseller. I got lucky once and maybe this is the only sale this image will ever see.

https://www.eyeem.com/p/43060982

eta2: most of the images I have on eyeem are not in their marketplace. I am enjoying the app and just send whatever I like for fun and the community. Some of these images are available elsewhere as stock. So I am using eyeem as a mix of fun,showcase and to test the reactions to different smartphone filters on a series.  For me that has been the most valuable info, because I can use that for my regular stock work.

I received 11 dollars in the first month, 52 in the second,5 dollars in the third. From around 100 images over on getty in the eyeem collection there. around 80% got chosen for getty, but all files will be available in their own marketplace.

But the eyeem marketplace hasn�t opened yet, so I have no idea what to expect, i don�t even know what price points they will have.

So at the moment I am sending content which the normal agencies wouldn�t take - files with very strong smartphone filters, files that have less than 3 mp etc...

My selection is not very systematic, it is a fun side project at this time.

I don�t think any of the files I send have a chance of becoming bestsellers or will turn into high volume sales. If I thought they did I would send them elsewhere.

The app is extremely easy and fun to use, so if they do get their marketplace going I can see quite a bit of my work going to eyeem because the upload is easy. But they still have to prove they can sell from their own site and it will take most of the year to understand where eyeem is going and how much time and attention they should get.

Also at the moment they have a smaller group of photographers. Once their marketplace opens, i expect them to turn on the flood, but we will see, maybe they have a plan for that.

But they take all my overfiltered stuff that nobody else likes, which makes me happy.

my sales are ok, if u made commercial stuff, not old pipes or landscape, sales are ok then.

i made scenes,  i need 2 hours to make scene  for two images in basement, but then i expect at least 50dl/image, if i dont have 20dl/image i made loss.

i forgot, dont shoot food, too much food is on SS 

But how are you producing 500 images a month? I also spend 2-3 hours on a few images, sometimes it takes me a whole day. That is why I can�t produce high volume. It might be easier if I worked more with models, because you can get different scenarious in one afternoon, but still life takes a lot of time.

I am more optimistic. The 400.000 is not relevant in my opinion - most of the images is newbie, boring and unsellable stuff with bad postprocessing like landscapes, flowers or pets. I think only small percentage is relevant and sellable. The question is also what will happen on the demand side of this business. It was growing rapidly last year.

There is that of course. Over on fotolia I started with a total rank of 212400 right at the bottom. Now, 18 months later and with only 811 files and still on bronze level I have moved to 10800 in total rank. Which means I leapfrogged over 200 000 people on an agency that has been around for 10 years. And my portfolio is nothing really special, but it is fully usable stock and not snapshots of pets and flowers.

From what I have seen by working with artists it takes 2-3 years to really get into stock. There is so much to learn and most people give up a long the way. It is not easy money.

If an agency has a good search engine like SS they can handle a high volume of incoming files.

I have teamed up with many artists and it is quite simple, we share costs discuss the shooting and then either shootdifferent scenarios in the same setting (Family with iPad on Sofa, family Reading with Child...) or Even have different setups and simple assist each other. i've done this in Shootings with up to 10 models and it was never a problem.

If all Files go to just one Account you can use Features on stockperformer that allow you to track the returns of lightboxes.

From what I understand all content was opted in voluntarily. It�s not like DPC where our content was placed in a new project without asking us.

Obviously an artist can do with their content whatever they want.

I think we are just seeing the market forces at work. When the microstock agencies had 2 million images the global demand for cheap imagery was so unbelievably high that it was possible to invest, say 1200+ dollars in a shoot every week and make that  back in 18 months or less and then enjoy everything else that came for a few years to come.

But now with around 40 million+ images and the endless copying from new people coming in, who of course first copy successful portfolios before they find their own niche, it is very hard to predict how long it will take to get your investment back.

So at this stage in the photo market smaller, exclusive collections where your files will not compete with millions of others, are becoming financially more interesting again and the customers are ready to pay more to save time. Basically they are paying for the quality of the editing.

With video the market is in a different stage, hardly any content (only 500 000 files with a model release on pond5), huge global demand. In a few years and when there are 30 million similar videos in the market I am sure it will again become more interesting to work with smaller,niche agencies and exclusive collections with good editing.

What is missing in the market overall is an attempt to crowdsource curation. You can see with pininterest how many people enjoy "collecting" images and creating galeries about all kinds subject matters, or trend themes etc...if this kind of curational talent could be brought to the micros this would help to subdivide the huge databases. And if there is a financial reward for the best curators, then you would slowly grow a group of superstar curators who know the collections really well and can throw together interesting mixed media galleries for any theme. Computers cannot replace people, even the best search systems cannot replace a human editor.

Until somebody figures out how to do that well and incorporate that into their stock agency, the market will fracture into many smaller collections with higher prices and a few superlarge stock houses that have hundreds of millions of files, but nobody can find anything easily.

So the next few years, smaller exclusive agencies will be very interesting until someone figures out how to handle an agency that gets 1 million new files from smartphones every week.

That link above is the way to submit however, things are different then they used to be. Looks like you now enter a competition based on an image brief / need that they're looking for.

several people have tried to enter Getty through this competition and then received congratulations and an invite to...istock...even though they already were istock exclusive contributors. It was discussed over on the istock facebook group. Apparently nobody has heard of anyone getting invited into getty itself, not even for pc.

Getty also didn�t announce any lucky winners and their new getty portfolios anywhere.

So I guess the best way to apply is to try to go via people you know who know someone...or maybe there are active content hunters somewhere.

Ignore is bliss. All forums should have that option.

I hope he wins his case, it is crazy that people do adult themed sessions and then are surprised if they show up in adult related websites. Images get stolen every day on the internet, if you don�t want your images to be used in that context, you really can�t show them anywhere online. That is the only way to prevent image theft and abuse.

Have you applied with the other macro agencies? 50 dollars a file is completely crazy.

Well, these are my returns from the first three months and the real marketplace isn�t open yet. But will it stay like that? Or will the ultralow downloads come later? I have no idea...this is the problem when you don�t know what you have signed up for. All I know is I am getting 50% of what eyeem gets.

But I was very pleasantly surprised, so at least right now it looks like a more interesting opportunity than I thought.

I wasn�t really expecting money from the getty deal, like you said, my experience from Getty house was that returns were often much,much lower than over on istock, which is why I stopped uploading to Getty.

So, this is a good start for eyeem, now let�s see what they do with their own marketplace and if they know how to sell.

There are many, many Getty partners or simply macrostock agencies out there. Unfortunately we don�t have a public list with their terms and earnings prospects, so it will be difficult to find out which partner is the right fit for a given style.

Pond5 is the only real marketplace and they are doing very well. why would you want to kill off a place that brings in reliable money?

 There are plenty of agencies with fixed price systems, if you prefer the one price system, I would just ignore pond5.

And everybody is free to create content at high prices that the customers are ready to pay for.

My 60 Dollar files sell well, even though I have cheaper files from the same theme, or the same series. But that is because the customer can see the difference and knows they are not being overcharged.

If you don't want to analyse your work, then maybe pond5 is simply the wrong place for you.

it is the same with photos. if you don't like subs and have content that can generate a higher income, don't send it to a sub site, focus on the agencies with higher prices. 28 cents or 600 dollars - your choice.

But the decision what to sell where, which price is the right one, is your own responsibility.

Actually I think to offer public domain clips in addition to all the regular content is useful for buyers, you become the one stop shop for everything.

It might also help balance a raise for HD video

But the best news is that downsizing for 4k is coming. The sooner the better.