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If you follow fb groups and discord, the 8 weeks seems to mostly affect newbie accounts.

Slowing them down to actually think before they upload is probably a good thing.

Slows down the spammers as well.

Illustration and photos are currently being inspected in my case in about a week, only pngs need 30 days.

That is a very fair review time.

Plusback to over 90% acceptance rate, which is even more important.

Main change - upsize with stability or midjourney directly, less gigapixel use and upload much smaller versions, often 3500*2000

I have a bunch of AI photos in review que for 3 weeks now.  Maybe mass rejection affected my rating?

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Now it says "moderation may take up to 8 weeks".  *.
8 weeks to find out mass rejection.  And then re-submit to wait for another 8 weeks.  That's nearly 4 months!!

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If not happy be mature, stop complainning and quit the place.

As soon as you give me a good alternative how to earn my livelihood I will do that. So far no one was able to and who would quit their job without having an alternative?

We share the same goal, earn a livelihood. And I revised my expectations significantly downwards.
Realize that you kill yourself your own future (and other's) using AI. See you in a near future with more complaints, since I've got ideas about what this leads to, since AI will be soon autonomic. Of course, one could argue that if you don't do it yourself, others will do (Only sheep expect others to act like sheep too) However, I remain convinced that I made the right choice not to provide ANY AI generated fake photo IMAGE (Because yes, they are not photographs, even though the platforms sell them as such).
 
My portfolios are in no way polluted by these images and they will perhaps be spared during the big clean-up (who will come in his time, whether by deleting certain contributor accounts or by the eviction of their images by algorithms, which will lead to the same), since for me, a photograph is a subject (often living), a real place, an existing moment, even the memory of an event, the transmission for the future, the reflection of the organic, a skill resulting from long training, a subtle and sensitive testimony, unsuspected creativity, a personal visual interpretation of reality, but also imperfection, accident, unpredictable, and therefore charm.
 
Is this really the tool you want to use to secure your future????


 I was under the impression this was a thread about Shutterstock and I am pretty sure I specifically talked about my Shutterstock earnings. Shutterstock does not even accept AI images.

So what in the world are you talking about...?

Omg, it's so low level here.
In any case, you did not respond to my message with anything intelligent, that would have surprised me.
Reread the topic, where is written "Adobe Stock" too... yes, the impression -you were under- was fake, as fake as the images you make the machines make by using AI.
 
Forget, have a lovely day, explore your keyboard typing your prompts, I will continue to enjoy exploring and promoting reality by using my eyes.  :D

You just don't make any sense.

Just ignore this guy.  It's the same pattern again and again.  He ridicules people, then when get a harsh response, he plays a victim.  There are a few others here with the same pattern.  I ignore all of them.  It's a waste of time.  They don't add anything valuable to the conversation and never started a valuable conversation.  Pathetic.  I only deal with the vast majority of sane people with good manner. 

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If you upload to any of those unlimited download sites, you should be ready some thieves somewhere in the world will download and upload your clips as their own by tweaking a little bit.  It's just how it is.

I've noticed on other posts that you regularly find fraudulent accounts with stolen videos. What tool do you use for reverse video searching?

Tineye.com

Just capture popular video thumbnail on Storyblocks and search on tineye.com

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How's your video sales on SS compared to pre-video sub January 2020?  Is it like 1/4 of January 2020?

January, 2020 was literally 10x higher than January, 2024.

184 sales in January, 2020 vs 95 last month, so I don't think the subscriptions was the ultimate culprit.

Wow.  Thanks for the info.  That pretty much cancels a possibility of me enabling video sales on Shutterstock.  My video sale went down immediately after the video sub intro by 1/2 and now top producer like you're making 1/10?  Not worth it and probably negatively affect my Pond5 sales.

You don't have any video on SS? Pond5 is owned by SS that's the end of them.

Everybody knows SS owns Pond5.

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If you upload to any of those unlimited download sites, you should be ready some thieves somewhere in the world will download and upload your clips as their own by tweaking a little bit.  It's just how it is.

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Thank you for letting us know.

But why dont you report this, to get that account removed?

because agencies require the actual copyright holders to complain and send in proof.

if enough theft is proven the accounts get pulled.

which is why you keeping seeing criminal ports always being posted in stock groups.

Actually, you don't need to be the actual copyright owner to file complaints to remove them.  I've reported fraud accounts of somebody else's videos many times and got them removed from Adobe Stock and Shutterstock.  After you report them, they do their own investigation and remove fraud accounts.

How do you do that?

Give the contributor support the link to original clip/photo and fraud clip/photo.  Originals are the oldest.  All fraud stolen clips have newer item#.

[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]


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How's your video sales on SS compared to pre-video sub January 2020?  Is it like 1/4 of January 2020?

January, 2020 was literally 10x higher than January, 2024.

184 sales in January, 2020 vs 95 last month, so I don't think the subscriptions was the ultimate culprit.

Wow.  Thanks for the info.  That pretty much cancels a possibility of me enabling video sales on Shutterstock.  My video sale went down immediately after the video sub intro by 1/2 and now top producer like you're making 1/10?  Not worth it and probably negatively affect my Pond5 sales.

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My SS photo sales was 1/14 of Adobe Stock's photo sales in January.  Wow.

1/6 here - and it was not a good AS month!

My sales on Adobe Stock is increasing because of AI images addition to my portfolio.  So if I didn't add them, still it would've been like 1/9 of my Adobe Stock sales.

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My SS photo sales was 1/14 of Adobe Stock's photo sales in January.  Wow.

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Shockingly low month.  I have to go back 10 years for a similar performance. And that was back when I had a fraction of the items in my portfolio.

How's your video sales on SS compared to pre-video sub January 2020?  Is it like 1/4 of January 2020?

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Also, Shutterstock's AI generator is a joke.  Who would use that POS???

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Thank you for letting us know.

But why dont you report this, to get that account removed?

because agencies require the actual copyright holders to complain and send in proof.

if enough theft is proven the accounts get pulled.

which is why you keeping seeing criminal ports always being posted in stock groups.

Actually, you don't need to be the actual copyright owner to file complaints to remove them.  I've reported fraud accounts of somebody else's videos many times and got them removed from Adobe Stock and Shutterstock.  After you report them, they do their own investigation and remove fraud accounts.

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So far this month in January 2024.  This is sad.  It's on pace for only 1/2 the January 2023 sales.  Shutterstock used to be the King.  Whatever gone wrong there. 
Shutterstock used to pay us $0.38 minimum for subscription sale like Adobe Stock does.  Since they introduced wonderful $0.10 photo sub commission, contributor enthusiasm seem eroded.  Probably Shutterstock nowadays doesn't get as many quality photos or videos as Adobe Stock does.  They still own Pond5 now.  So, they get the best stock videos on Pond5.  But for the photos, Adobe Stock is the King now, no question.  They totally had a wrong approach toward contributors belittling us while Adobe Stock is trying to work with us.  Big mistake.
So, it took 10 years to get 6,500 photos on Adobe Stock, but took only 3 months to add 3,000 AI generated photos on Adobe Stock.  $120 x 3 months Midjourney cost is very well spent.  I'll make way more than $120 in AI photo sales this month.  Also, I'm lucky I got 3,000 AI photos accepted before the mass rejection trend started.

Sure, you feel so sorry you can't flood SS with tons of AI images you get from Midjourney? since you are one of the human tools of it.
You know what, Well, that's sounds perfect to me!  :D

They do a "Big mistake"?, hem, maybe you actually do also, who knows... future will say it  ;)

You sound like a bitter old man.  Cheer up!!  😂😂

AMAZING!!!! You INSULTED ME HERE by calling me a MOFO, a Mother Fucker.  >:( >:( >:(
I reported this to the moderator.
Surprising that your message has changed, but no mention of Last Edit.  ???
So it was not you who rewrote this message, but surely a moderator.
So, people can freely insult others here, with no much consequence. Has the "rewriting" be made by the moderator? Wow, Disastrous what this community is becoming

You've been rude to me many times, but now playing a victim?   ;D ;D
You never started a meaningful thread on forums.  All you do is to attack and ridicule people.  So, please ignore me and not comment on my thread!!!

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So far this month in January 2024.  This is sad.  It's on pace for only 1/2 the January 2023 sales.  Shutterstock used to be the King.  Whatever gone wrong there. 
Shutterstock used to pay us $0.38 minimum for subscription sale like Adobe Stock does.  Since they introduced wonderful $0.10 photo sub commission, contributor enthusiasm seem eroded.  Probably Shutterstock nowadays doesn't get as many quality photos or videos as Adobe Stock does.  They still own Pond5 now.  So, they get the best stock videos on Pond5.  But for the photos, Adobe Stock is the King now, no question.  They totally had a wrong approach toward contributors belittling us while Adobe Stock is trying to work with us.  Big mistake.
So, it took 10 years to get 6,500 photos on Adobe Stock, but took only 3 months to add 3,000 AI generated photos on Adobe Stock.  $120 x 3 months Midjourney cost is very well spent.  I'll make way more than $120 in AI photo sales this month.  Also, I'm lucky I got 3,000 AI photos accepted before the mass rejection trend started.

Sure, you feel so sorry you can't flood SS with tons of AI images you get from Midjourney? since you are one of the human tools of it.
You know what, Well, that's sounds perfect to me!  :D

They do a "Big mistake"?, hem, maybe you actually do also, who knows... future will say it  ;)


You sound like a bitter old man.  Cheer up!!  😂😂

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As of today, majority of my Shutterstock photo sales are "Contributor Fund" and still 1/9 of Adobe Stock's sales.  Sad.

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I would only upload HD clips.

That's been my strategy as SS for a very long time - only submitting HD clips and sending 4k clips elsewhere. It's unbelievable that I may be forced to do the same thing with AS.

You are ahead of us!!!   We should all submit only HD clips to Adobe Stock now because they don't give us extra for 4k clips.  That's disgusting.

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Is there any difference in how many HD or 4K videos buyers get for subscription?  Is HD and 4K clip treated as the same price for subscription?  If so, I would only upload HD clips.

This is actually part of my business plan as of late: only submitting HD clips to subscription agencies.

But it's starting to get hard to find an agency that doesn't have a subscription option these days.

That makes sense.  If they want a 4k clip, buy at Pond5.  Only crappy HD clips will be available for video subs from me. 

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I re-uploaded about 20 videos recently, but I just deleted all 4k videos.  I'll re-upload them in HD only to avoid my 4k videos getting snatched for a few dollars.  I make $120 per 4k video sale on Pond5 Exclusive.  Got to protect my price.

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Hi Everyone,

Adobe Stocks 4K video clips will now be offered alongside HD clips for licensing as part of Adobe Stock subscriptions. This change will simplify the offering for Stock customers, allowing them to license HD and 4K video content as well as standard images, templates, 3D, and audio tracks using their subscriptions.
 
There is no change to the current royalty rate. For information about compensation, please visit our Royalties page.

https://helpx.adobe.com/stock/contributor/help/royalty-details.html

Thank you,

Mat Hayward

Is there any difference in how many HD or 4K videos buyers get for subscription?  Is HD and 4K clip treated as the same price for subscription?  If so, I would only upload HD clips.  I deleted all my videos in May, but uploaded a few clips recently.  I'll delete 4K clips and upload them in HD only if I don't get at least 2x for 4K video sub.

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The subscription price is high. Make it $16 a month and unlimited downloads. There will be more buyers and authors will receive more profits.

 ;D ;D

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Hi,

Today I found two accounts that are stealing my ideas and images:
newbielink:https://stock.adobe.com/pl/contributor/210831321/james [nonactive]
newbielink:https://stock.adobe.com/pl/contributor/211446831/geetanjali [nonactive]

They used my images without permission and changed them a little bit by using A.I.

I wrote about it to Adobe and hopefully their acounts will be closed soon. I just spent around 20 minutes to find those accounts. I will be searching for thieves from time to time because I'm sure there are hundreds more.

Please, we need massive action to clean stock sites from unfair contributors. Write to Adobe about any account that tries to build success on your images.

Please feel free to post unfair contributor's account in this thread.

Many thanks!

Also, do you use Midjourney in public mode?  If so, anybody can look at your prompt and generate very similar image.  You can use higher price plan to use "Stealth" private mode.  Also you need to "unpublish" your image gallery to hide from public.  And also I see some AI photos have prompts as the title.  That's asking for somebody else to just use the same prompt to generate similar image.

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Hi,

Today I found two accounts that are stealing my ideas and images:
newbielink:https://stock.adobe.com/pl/contributor/210831321/james [nonactive]
newbielink:https://stock.adobe.com/pl/contributor/211446831/geetanjali [nonactive]

They used my images without permission and changed them a little bit by using A.I.

I wrote about it to Adobe and hopefully their acounts will be closed soon. I just spent around 20 minutes to find those accounts. I will be searching for thieves from time to time because I'm sure there are hundreds more.

Please, we need massive action to clean stock sites from unfair contributors. Write to Adobe about any account that tries to build success on your images.

Please feel free to post unfair contributor's account in this thread.

Many thanks!

Can you post your portfolio so that we can see if those are stolen from your account?  If not, there's no way we know if those are actually stolen.  You should post each of your original image and stolen image so that we can compare.

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It all started when then CEO of Shutterstock Stan Pavlovsky, the embodiment of corporate greed, started screwing contributors with the new royalty schedule and levels and yearly resets.
Then he left the sinking ship. I'm still angry when I think of how he introduced that whole fiasco. And look at where we (they) are now. Surpassed by Adobe.

Stan the Man!!!!  He got paid well.  I'm not sure if everything was his idea though.  He obviously was No. 2 to the founder.

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You almost have to wonder if they seriously cut back on their stock marketing ads and such.

Maybe that's the reason Pond5 sales have gone down too.

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