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iStockPhoto.com / Re: iStock exclusivity
« on: August 13, 2014, 06:54 »
will reach payout each week, which is more than I expected.
I was there for years; not now, though.

It's good that you feel you are doing well, and that exclusivity will be good for you.
Indeed, maybe it will, but I can't remembering all the iS fanboys/girls who raved about them here for years, trashing all contrary comments (usually suggesting anyone who wasn't doing well there was a crap producer), and are now indie.
Ditto as far as the "not now" goes. Had a couple of weeks lately where payout wasn't reached. (OK one was the week with the repayment, but even so that was only $16. . .) and that's with 5500 images which used to do reasonably well for me.
This week for instance I've had one sale since Sunday evening. Nothing for over 48 hours.
If this present situation goes on for long I won't be an exclusive there much longer.
They seem to forget that they offer a service to sell images for the contributors who upload there. That is the deal.
Once they stop selling your images, for whatever reason, there is no point in uploading any more.
And certainly no reason to be exclusive.

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I wonder if the sheer amount of content hasn't somewhat overwhelmed the "automatic sorting" of content by best match etc.

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^^@hobostocker: I realise the search algorithm is different for different searches, but when many searches are over populated with spammed files which don't even match the search term, the buyers arw getting a worse expedience.
Also the reported experience of most people is that new files - going back to Sept 2012 aren't selling as well as older files. That can be backed up by looking at most recent uploads tbrough a wide range of contributors. Be sure to check upload dates too - I found two BD ports where the recent uploads page seemed to be selling well - but neither had uploaded much in two years. New files sell from time to time - but not enough to encourage people to keep uploading.

agencies are in the business of selling photos, not in the business of providing a steady income to their suppliers, that's not their problem and never was and never will.

of course this is true as long as there are still suppliers willing to upload new images in order to earn a pittance.

but so far so good, i haven't heard a single agency taking action on this matter, as far as they're concerned they're all making fat profits so why should they bother ?

photographers earning nothing is not a bug, it's a feature of the actual stock industry.
either we move to greener pastures or we'll soon be unable to break-in with production costs.

but this will take time, maybe years to be finally acknowledged by agencies, if ever.
considering the millions of images on sales they could pretty much stop uploading new stuff for a long time and only a few buyers would ever notice or complain.

we're well over the saturation point in my opinion, and they don't need us anymore.

While I agree that the market is pretty well saturated, and will continue to get more so, I still don't see the logic in dropping standards to the extent they have been at iStock.
If you have plenty to pick from, why pick anything but the best?
It seems to me to be a classic example of "Skinning a gnat for a farthing, and spoiling a penny knife doing it"

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They still inspect keywords
Keywordzilla is still there, rejecting correct keywords at random, but other than that I see no evidence of keyword inspection. Just about any search is horrible, certainly by newest; also best match QED above for at least some searches. Most Popular for 'animals in the wild' throws up a lot of 'isolated' animals, which are also not supposed to be tagged 'animals in the wild'. (Wild animals in zoos or isolated can get the tag 'wildlife'.)
Although it's wrong to keyword a lot of the images there as "animals in the wild", you can sort of understand it in some cases, getting mixed up with "wild animals" for instance, unless people happen to have read what a term is supposed to be used for they are going to get it wrong, and there is no manual AFAIK.
Sorting by newest you get stuff that is just wrong. Images of "wild" places, and cultivated fields.
Really though it doesn't matter what search you do, bad keywording varies from "I can see how they did that but it's not right" to "How could anyone ever think that is right?"
I thought that correct keywording was more important in some ways than image quality. Very little point in having images of any quality that can't be found in a search, or that are incorrectly keyworded and  in such quantity to push legitimate results off the results. 
 

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Photo Critique / Re: Thoughts on this image?
« on: August 05, 2014, 14:17 »
I seem to remember reading somewhere that the older (?) yellow only equipment can still be a protected. I'd steer clear personally.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: iStock penalising Diamonds ?
« on: August 05, 2014, 10:52 »
As an Istock diamond with crashing sales month after month I don't think it is Istock penalizing anyone. It is just that buyers have left the place. That simple. Exclusivity  Istock and Getty (I contribute to PC and house collections) are no longer a viable photography business. I give them 6 more months to change that trend, thats when my cut will drop from 40 to 35, then I will be out. I hope my psychological health will improve after that :-)
If it just the buyers leaving then all I can say is that quite a few of them must have left with the last big best match change 2-3 weeks back.
There may be less buyers, and there are almost certainly more contributors after the DLs, but those would mean slower drops over time, which we have of course seen.
It's not that iStock penalises any particular persons or group deliberately, it's just "business"
Their business that is. Our's doesn't count.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: iStock penalising Diamonds ?
« on: August 05, 2014, 07:21 »
They don't need to do anything as specific as that.

The RC system keeps their contributor % payouts at a level that is manageable for them. Each year they can control how many are at each level - they don't care how many are at diamond level as long as the aggregate payout % of all contributors is within specified acceptable/sustainable boundaries, which they can control by raising and lowering the RC level tiers.
Adding to that: Ever since they introduced it, they never had to raise the limits. Actually they had decided to keep contributors at least on their older levels. Which shows that people on average are doing even worse than what they had calculated at the start. Funny enough "not raising the bar" is an indicator of the business running not as good as expected in this case, isn't it?

And they've spun it as "we'll keep you at your last year's level, lucky you!" and people thank them for the underperformance and think they're lucky.... marketing spin done well....
The whole place is spinning so fast, that before long a lot of people will need to get off.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: iStock penalising Diamonds ?
« on: August 05, 2014, 07:15 »
All very true and valid points made here. This month so far is absolutely terrible for me, and I know it is for others. At least 50% down after the last best match change at the end of July.
There are only two options for contributors who wish to continue there though.
Nothing we say or do there makes the slightest difference. It hasn't for years.
 

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: iStock exclusivity
« on: August 02, 2014, 09:19 »
True enough about some having more ULs than DLs. The new standards aren't helping anyone there methinks.
Although obviously the model will, and has changed over time, the sudden changes (read drops) seen tend to point to intervention rather than evolution to me.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: iStock exclusivity
« on: August 02, 2014, 08:08 »
That thread is really depressing to read. So having gone indie I am earning more then people who are fully istock exclusive? And I still have less than 1000 images on the micros....

The exclusive number on the poll seems to be in free fall as well. They should at least let them nominate files for getty, if that is where all the attention and marketing money is going.
Getty nominations are possibly the answer. If it was done in the right way it would be a powerful incentive to stay exclusive.
TBH as it is at present I can't see that they care at all about exclusives. They seem to have gone too far down the road of wanting people to be exclusive, but not accepting that there is some cost to them in having content which isn't elsewhere. They have also devalued the exclusive concept with other  "exclusive" material.
There seems to be increasingly less reason to be exclusive there every month.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: iStock exclusivity
« on: August 02, 2014, 07:49 »
FWIW, I started at iS in late Dec 2006, and my July dls were the worst, bar none, since Feb 2007

I started uploading there in Jan 2006. This was my worst July since 2007.

2009,2010 and 2011 my July averages were $1 per image per month iS only - just the blue bit - i.e. not including GI or extended licences.

I really started uploading there towards the end of 2005. So about the same time as bunhill.
And guess what? This July is my worst for $$ since 2007. At that time I had something like a third the images online I have now, and of course the amounts per sale were much smaller.

Seems to me that the only exclusives doing well there are bronze and possibly silver. I'll leave you to draw your own conclusions of the possible reasons for that, and where things might be going there.
 

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: Ode To iStock
« on: July 09, 2014, 04:47 »
Strangely though I don't remember it smelling of fresh coffee and sourdough bread there. :)

Homegrown and socks right ?
Nearly right. Homegrown and s**t. :) 

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: Ode To iStock
« on: July 08, 2014, 10:56 »
Chapter 4

Far to the north there were partisans - bearded artisans and tattooed faeries who had escaped from the forest in brightly colored VWs and on old bicycles.  They lived a simple rustic life in a secret commune which was not on any map and was difficult to find - a tranquil  idle which smelled of fresh coffee and sourdough bread.

Many years ago I went looking for a friend of mine who was supposed to be at a similar place. I was a bearded artisan myself, with an old Transit van, so I didn't look that out of place.

Strangely though I don't remember it smelling of fresh coffee and sourdough bread there. :)

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: What is aciculum?
« on: July 08, 2014, 08:37 »
Incidentally "aciculum" is a word, although it looks as if it is more often used in the plural "acicula" which is also a genus of snails. (I knew the word looked vaguely familiar, but I've just been doing some reading)
But "handcarves" isn't a word AFAIK, "hand carves" (with space) is the correct, but still fairly unusual usage surely?
A Google search for "handcarves" brings up firstly (for me at least) links to groups of stock images on several of the microstock agencies including iS and SS.

ETA added "Google" to "search" in last para.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: What is aciculum?
« on: July 08, 2014, 08:23 »
Haven't really checked that extensively. What I certainly can see from a quick look now, and looking in the recent past, is that some files seem to have every imaginable keyword applied. No matter how tenuous the link may be.  Now I know I've had the occasional keyword correctly removed from uploads in the past few months, so it makes me wonder if at least some of these are being added after acceptance, with little checking or thought.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: What is aciculum?
« on: July 08, 2014, 07:21 »
Try narrowing the search "aciculum" with the word "handcarves"
They can't all be copied keywords surely? Some of them would have been DA'd out during uploading.
Neither 'aciculum' nor 'handcarves' are in the CV, so no DAing possible.
Hmmm, there are loads of huge sellers with 'handcarves' in the keywords. No matter ignorami are copying it.
I see bunhill has posted on the keyword forum for aciculum and Ducksandwich is looking into it. Maybe add 'handcarves' to that query. Maybe they were secret keywords to denote a particular early 'lypse?
It will be interesting to see the answer when it comes!
Yes not "DAd". Wrong terminology. Just "removed during the keywording process" :)
Which is what most people would have done, or at least should have done, and makes me wonder if these have been somehow been randomly added later somehow. You can see the ones that have been copied, as they would seem to be the recent ones which are if not actually spammed, then are not so well keyworded.

ETA I've added a bit about the "handcarves" word to Bunhill's thread on the iStock forum.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: What is aciculum?
« on: July 08, 2014, 06:04 »
Try narrowing the search "aciculum" with the word "handcarves"
They can't all be copied keywords surely? Some of them would have been DA'd out during uploading.


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Sony RX100. Tiny camera. Pocketable.  Good quality output. Not quite dslr quality, but certainly good in reasonable light.

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A badge with my name on it and a teenage supervisor telling me how to do a very simple job.

And then, very quickly being jobless again. . . :)

We're all doomed to be serfs of neo-liberal capitalist Barons one way or another, taking photos, flipping burgers, wiping bottoms. People in the West will revolt eventually, but not in my lifetime I expect.
I thought us microstock photographers  already were "serfs of neo-liberal capitalist Barons"
We'll be OK though in the future you predict. Just as long as we can get releases for the burgers! :)

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A badge with my name on it and a teenage supervisor telling me how to do a very simple job.

And then, very quickly being jobless again. . . :)



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Work for free at my business. No I don't think so thanks. It's hard enough to make a living as a one man band without giving away freebies.
"Work for free until you want paying and then we'll find someone else to work for free instead of you"
Internships might be fair enough. As long as you're learning something. Certainly before WWII you often had to pay for an apprenticeship. I believe my my grandfather paid for my mother to be an apprentice hairdresser in the 30s.
As far as the rest is concerned, I wish that self employed people would realise that doing work for free or even too cheaply often damages the the trade or profession they are working in as it makes it more difficult for others to charge realistic prices.
"Start off cheap to get work then put up my prices later" Normally results in someone working cheaply for a couple of years, and then packing it in because there's no money to be made.

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Nikon / Re: D200 battery instability
« on: April 20, 2014, 10:55 »
Lots about D200 "dead battery syndrome" if you search online.
One thread here.
http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/26537844
With Li-ion batteries in particular I wouldn't try discharging them except in the camera, or charging them with anything except a charger designed for that battery.

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Off Topic / Re: Windows XP Support Ends April 8th
« on: March 20, 2014, 07:08 »
May I point out thay many of the old XP machines will be great Linuxed based platforms and should be able to be good for many more years

Hmmmm.  Never thought about switching to another OS.  I'd be interested in knowing more.

Try this out here
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCD
You can run it from the CD to try it.
I haven't tried it for a while, but the last time I did it was on a machine running XP, and the Linux just worked. Internet and all. Very little messing about.
If you use software that has Linux versions it helps, although there are ways of running Windows programs on Linux. A program called Wine is one way.
I'm running Win 7 64 at present, and I think it was a good upgrade from XP. Like others have said I didn't like it at first, but I wouldn't want to go back now.
I'm thinking of moving over to Linux though some time in the future. I already use mostly open source programs for work.
 

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: best match
« on: February 04, 2014, 12:16 »
I have very few sales on new stuff uploaded in the last 6 months, or at least since the "free for all" started, whenever that was. Strangely I've had a few keyword corrections in that time (none just recently) for keywords which were arguable rather than completely wrong, wrong. When you look at some of the keywords on some of the uploads, it makes you wonder.
I have said before on the iStock forums that the reason for uploading there (or anywhere else for that matter) is to get sales. Take the sales away and the reason for uploading goes with it. There may be plenty more "cannon fodder" ready to step into the breach, but they too will get tired of it if there are no DLs. I really, really don't get it.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: best match
« on: February 04, 2014, 11:41 »
What's the relative age of the files Liz?
At the moment. I think all my files must be at the back of the search. Whatever's making the best match tick at present.
It's getting to the point of me thinking what to do, and thinking that you can't get less than nothing!

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